Hughes and Dean Wilson??

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7/21/2014 11:46am
These guys all train so hard it's become a matter of finding the right trainer and fit to mentally prepare them. Physically, most all the top riders these days are working with trainers that have them way more than prepared to go 30 plus two, but I think the good ones can do something for the rider mentally that the rider is lacking....
7/21/2014 11:49am
Dean can't handle Hughes, he's not hard enough... That's all there is to it. Dean has seen his best days come and go.
500guy wrote:
And people including myself said that about Milsaps yet there he was winning races and leading the series for the better part of the season.
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain... Deno is DUNZO! until I'm proven wrong ;-)
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7/21/2014 12:14pm Edited Date/Time 7/21/2014 12:42pm
dirtnapper wrote:
Just my opinion, but I would HATE working with Hughes......
bd wrote:
Ryno does not do well with people who half ass and are full of bullshit. Have you worked with him? I trained with him for three...
Ryno does not do well with people who half ass and are full of bullshit. Have you worked with him? I trained with him for three days - an incredible coach: knows motocross, nutrition, and emotional intelligence. Great guy.

How can you make a claim if you do not know the man, never worked with the man, never experienced his training? If you have, please SHARE your experience.
Grieby54 wrote:
Emotional intelligence and Ryan Hughes don't belong in the same sentence. Talk about nut job...
In other words, people remain static, do not grow and expand their being. I am not a Ryno apologist - he has made mistakes (like all of us) and has grown from them (and I'll bet he makes more - and its all good). I do know he is trying to be a better human, he is helping people reach their potential and believe in themselves - and some of you claim he's the a wack job? If that's a wacko sign me up. Because the norm of not giving a fuck, videoing people get hurt, and selfies is not serving anyone.
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7/21/2014 12:19pm
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i look at a lot of ryno's training......i'm not totally sold on a lot of the stuff he does. seems to throw in a TON of...
i look at a lot of ryno's training......i'm not totally sold on a lot of the stuff he does. seems to throw in a TON of unproven/controversial unstable surface training that might not be as necessary as one would think.

i'm 100% guessing but i think deano was working harder than ever and left scratching his head that all his extra work was not yielding the results he desired.
bd wrote:
In other words, you are key board jockey and don't know dick. He works with Tomac.....

What did John Tomac say about Ryno?
IWreckALot wrote:
I am curious. What did John Tomac say about Ryno? It's crazy because I used to dog on Hughes for the neck brace thing but then...
I am curious. What did John Tomac say about Ryno?

It's crazy because I used to dog on Hughes for the neck brace thing but then you listen to his rationale and it makes logical sense. I can't argue the science behind it but I kinda backed off of bashing him once I heard the PulpMx interview (I believe it was) that they had him on. I’ll still criticize the timing of his neck brace lectures. Right after someone breaks their neck isn’t the time to classily be saying “I told you so”.

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7/21/2014 12:27pm
Dean can't handle Hughes, he's not hard enough... That's all there is to it. Dean has seen his best days come and go.
500guy wrote:
And people including myself said that about Milsaps yet there he was winning races and leading the series for the better part of the season.
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain...
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain... Deno is DUNZO! until I'm proven wrong ;-)
wow thats some major dean wilson hatred you got going on . I would imagine wilson dropped Hughes because he raced the 450 and had no arms after ten laps so clearly something wasnt working. Hughes was all over social media and tv praising deans work ethic. The kid is proven to have the speed in a deep field when he raced the 450 it had to be his program that was not working and unless either party says why they decided to split the rest is pure speculation.
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7/21/2014 12:34pm
Dean can't handle Hughes, he's not hard enough... That's all there is to it. Dean has seen his best days come and go.
500guy wrote:
And people including myself said that about Milsaps yet there he was winning races and leading the series for the better part of the season.
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain...
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain... Deno is DUNZO! until I'm proven wrong ;-)
All what is wrong with bench racing here.

So you know Dean personally? How about Ryan or Davi? Have you ever had a training session with Ryan?

If you answered no to any one of those questions then don't make wild speculations about something you don't know about. Pretty simple.
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7/21/2014 12:41pm
500guy wrote:
And people including myself said that about Milsaps yet there he was winning races and leading the series for the better part of the season.
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain...
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain... Deno is DUNZO! until I'm proven wrong ;-)
Ramrod wrote:
All what is wrong with bench racing here. So you know Dean personally? How about Ryan or Davi? Have you ever had a training session with...
All what is wrong with bench racing here.

So you know Dean personally? How about Ryan or Davi? Have you ever had a training session with Ryan?

If you answered no to any one of those questions then don't make wild speculations about something you don't know about. Pretty simple.
Well said on all counts
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7/21/2014 12:44pm
bd wrote:
Ryno does not do well with people who half ass and are full of bullshit. Have you worked with him? I trained with him for three...
Ryno does not do well with people who half ass and are full of bullshit. Have you worked with him? I trained with him for three days - an incredible coach: knows motocross, nutrition, and emotional intelligence. Great guy.

How can you make a claim if you do not know the man, never worked with the man, never experienced his training? If you have, please SHARE your experience.
Grieby54 wrote:
Emotional intelligence and Ryan Hughes don't belong in the same sentence. Talk about nut job...
bd wrote:
In other words, people remain static, do not grow and expand their being. I am not a Ryno apologist - he has made mistakes (like all...
In other words, people remain static, do not grow and expand their being. I am not a Ryno apologist - he has made mistakes (like all of us) and has grown from them (and I'll bet he makes more - and its all good). I do know he is trying to be a better human, he is helping people reach their potential and believe in themselves - and some of you claim he's the a wack job? If that's a wacko sign me up. Because the norm of not giving a fuck, videoing people get hurt, and selfies is not serving anyone.
Yes, he's totally doing what he does to better man-kind. Not because it's a way for him to stay involved in the only sport or vocation that he's ever known, and certainly not because it pays well.

Ryan is about as dumb (IQ) as they come and about as emotionally intelligent as a graham cracker. This is the fool who starts fights at the track, he's the fool that chooses the very worst times to be outspoken about neck braces (something that he knows jack shit about - what research has he done?). The dude is an idiot.
7/21/2014 1:03pm Edited Date/Time 7/21/2014 1:06pm
500guy wrote:
And people including myself said that about Milsaps yet there he was winning races and leading the series for the better part of the season.
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain...
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain... Deno is DUNZO! until I'm proven wrong ;-)
JonnyDH84 wrote:
wow thats some major dean wilson hatred you got going on . I would imagine wilson dropped Hughes because he raced the 450 and had no...
wow thats some major dean wilson hatred you got going on . I would imagine wilson dropped Hughes because he raced the 450 and had no arms after ten laps so clearly something wasnt working. Hughes was all over social media and tv praising deans work ethic. The kid is proven to have the speed in a deep field when he raced the 450 it had to be his program that was not working and unless either party says why they decided to split the rest is pure speculation.
True, I wouldn't call it HATE though.

To Simply put it, I'm not a fan of the guy because he whines and complains every time shit doesn't go his way. I have Zero Fucking Tolerance for Cry babies.

It's why I'm not a Stewart fan. Excuses for everything
7/21/2014 1:04pm Edited Date/Time 7/21/2014 1:05pm
500guy wrote:
And people including myself said that about Milsaps yet there he was winning races and leading the series for the better part of the season.
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain...
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain... Deno is DUNZO! until I'm proven wrong ;-)
Ramrod wrote:
All what is wrong with bench racing here. So you know Dean personally? How about Ryan or Davi? Have you ever had a training session with...
All what is wrong with bench racing here.

So you know Dean personally? How about Ryan or Davi? Have you ever had a training session with Ryan?

If you answered no to any one of those questions then don't make wild speculations about something you don't know about. Pretty simple.
I fuckin speculate all I want you fuggn kewk. As if you NEVER speculate.... idiot.


what's bd stand for Big Douche?
7/21/2014 1:14pm
Ryno is a tool and if his program is so great why didn't he do it until after his career was over ?
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7/21/2014 1:36pm
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The weird thing is that I had almost the exact opposite response when I listened to the podcast. It caused me to even further discredit his...
The weird thing is that I had almost the exact opposite response when I listened to the podcast. It caused me to even further discredit his opinion. Of course, that's just my outlook and by no means am I saying that you're wrong or right. Just sharing my experience when listening to it.
Hmm. Interesting. What was it that he said that made you think that way?

I found it logical that the body is built to absorb certain impacts and by putting the brace on you're disturbing the body's natural ability to absorb that impact.

It's been awhile since I've listened to the podcast but I remember at the time thinking it sounded like a rational and logical way to come to the conclusion he has. Usually we just hear him spewing his hate for neck braces without the logic part.
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7/21/2014 1:46pm
I think Ol' Deano concentrates more on pussy than riding. Wink Tongue
You would be wrong.

Even though who could blame him, it has been the downfall of greater men
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7/21/2014 1:46pm
I'm sure Dean is still recovering from that leg injury.

Moto 1 his speed was good, but about the 25 minute mark or so he was gassed. Baggett was coming like a demon and wasn't going to stop until the checkers.

Moto 2 he rode well, but cruised home the last 10 minutes or so.

Track was tough and the pace was fast..
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7/21/2014 1:56pm Edited Date/Time 7/21/2014 1:56pm
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain...
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain... Deno is DUNZO! until I'm proven wrong ;-)
JonnyDH84 wrote:
wow thats some major dean wilson hatred you got going on . I would imagine wilson dropped Hughes because he raced the 450 and had no...
wow thats some major dean wilson hatred you got going on . I would imagine wilson dropped Hughes because he raced the 450 and had no arms after ten laps so clearly something wasnt working. Hughes was all over social media and tv praising deans work ethic. The kid is proven to have the speed in a deep field when he raced the 450 it had to be his program that was not working and unless either party says why they decided to split the rest is pure speculation.
True, I wouldn't call it HATE though. To Simply put it, I'm not a fan of the guy because he whines and complains every time shit...
True, I wouldn't call it HATE though.

To Simply put it, I'm not a fan of the guy because he whines and complains every time shit doesn't go his way. I have Zero Fucking Tolerance for Cry babies.

It's why I'm not a Stewart fan. Excuses for everything
Do you see the irony in you complaining about Dean complaining?

I think Dean just needs some time to get his fitness back.
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7/21/2014 3:13pm
hvaughn88 wrote:
The weird thing is that I had almost the exact opposite response when I listened to the podcast. It caused me to even further discredit his...
The weird thing is that I had almost the exact opposite response when I listened to the podcast. It caused me to even further discredit his opinion. Of course, that's just my outlook and by no means am I saying that you're wrong or right. Just sharing my experience when listening to it.
IWreckALot wrote:
Hmm. Interesting. What was it that he said that made you think that way? I found it logical that the body is built to absorb certain...
Hmm. Interesting. What was it that he said that made you think that way?

I found it logical that the body is built to absorb certain impacts and by putting the brace on you're disturbing the body's natural ability to absorb that impact.

It's been awhile since I've listened to the podcast but I remember at the time thinking it sounded like a rational and logical way to come to the conclusion he has. Usually we just hear him spewing his hate for neck braces without the logic part.
My main issue with that logic is that the body is intended to absorb certain impacts. Lawn darting yourself off of a motorcycle isn't one of them. With that logic, helmets would disturb the body's ability to absorb impacts naturally, too. Obviously, my example is a bit facetious, but you get the point. I just got the feeling when I listened to the podcast that he was shoe-horning his own rationale into the argument just to justify his stance on the matter. I think he threw out some anecdotal "data" about more people dying wearing them, or so,etching to that effect (been a while since I listened to it myself). Of course I value his opinion on riding technique and things of that nature. But when it comes to the anatomy and physiology of the body, I'll take the opinion and advice of MD's every time over an ex racer. It's not a knock against the ex racer, it's just kind of obvious. I wouldn't ask my orthopedic surgeon for tips on skimming the whoops, either.
7/23/2014 12:57am Edited Date/Time 7/23/2014 1:13am
I think Ol' Deano concentrates more on pussy than riding. Wink Tongue
Perhaps. But, I think he has a lot of potential.
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7/23/2014 5:23am


Enough said.
7/23/2014 6:34am
Markee wrote:
[img]https://rx.iscdn.net/2010/09/ryno_217431.jpg[/img] Enough said.


Enough said.
Mike Alessi did that once.
7/23/2014 6:45am
hvaughn88 wrote:
The weird thing is that I had almost the exact opposite response when I listened to the podcast. It caused me to even further discredit his...
The weird thing is that I had almost the exact opposite response when I listened to the podcast. It caused me to even further discredit his opinion. Of course, that's just my outlook and by no means am I saying that you're wrong or right. Just sharing my experience when listening to it.
IWreckALot wrote:
Hmm. Interesting. What was it that he said that made you think that way? I found it logical that the body is built to absorb certain...
Hmm. Interesting. What was it that he said that made you think that way?

I found it logical that the body is built to absorb certain impacts and by putting the brace on you're disturbing the body's natural ability to absorb that impact.

It's been awhile since I've listened to the podcast but I remember at the time thinking it sounded like a rational and logical way to come to the conclusion he has. Usually we just hear him spewing his hate for neck braces without the logic part.
hvaughn88 wrote:
My main issue with that logic is that the body [i]is[/i] intended to absorb [i]certain[/i] impacts. Lawn darting yourself off of a motorcycle isn't one of...
My main issue with that logic is that the body is intended to absorb certain impacts. Lawn darting yourself off of a motorcycle isn't one of them. With that logic, helmets would disturb the body's ability to absorb impacts naturally, too. Obviously, my example is a bit facetious, but you get the point. I just got the feeling when I listened to the podcast that he was shoe-horning his own rationale into the argument just to justify his stance on the matter. I think he threw out some anecdotal "data" about more people dying wearing them, or so,etching to that effect (been a while since I listened to it myself). Of course I value his opinion on riding technique and things of that nature. But when it comes to the anatomy and physiology of the body, I'll take the opinion and advice of MD's every time over an ex racer. It's not a knock against the ex racer, it's just kind of obvious. I wouldn't ask my orthopedic surgeon for tips on skimming the whoops, either.
Exactly..... That's what made me think Ryan was an idiot. The human body isn't equipped to handle getting pile driven head first into the ground at 35 mph or more coming off a dirtbike crash. The neck brace isn't restricting any natural body movements that will reduce injury in the case of a really nasty MX/SX get-off. We often don't realize it because nasty crashes seem to happen so often, but surviving a really bad MX crash is a miracle in it's own right, let alone walking away from one without any major injuries.
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Markee wrote:
[img]https://rx.iscdn.net/2010/09/ryno_217431.jpg[/img] Enough said.


Enough said.
Impressive feat, no doubt. But what's your point?
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Exactly..... That's what made me think Ryan was an idiot. The human body isn't equipped to handle getting pile driven head first into the ground at...
Exactly..... That's what made me think Ryan was an idiot. The human body isn't equipped to handle getting pile driven head first into the ground at 35 mph or more coming off a dirtbike crash. The neck brace isn't restricting any natural body movements that will reduce injury in the case of a really nasty MX/SX get-off. We often don't realize it because nasty crashes seem to happen so often, but surviving a really bad MX crash is a miracle in it's own right, let alone walking away from one without any major injuries.
So how many wrecks do we have where you lawn dart as opposed to wrecks where you tumble? I can't fathom we have many lawn dart wrecks. I'm sure it happens, but neck brace or no neck brace, if you take more than one lawn dart accident, you probably have bigger issues than the neck brace can help.

What I'm getting at, is we wreck in so many different ways. Some of which the neck brace will help and some of which would seemingly hurt. My decision to not wear a neck brace stems from the fact that it seemed to hinder my ability to move my head while riding to see what's going on around me. And if you can argue that wearing one will help in as many ways as it can possibly hurt, why spend the money. Either way you have a 50/50 chance seemingly.
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7/23/2014 8:25am
What brace were you wearing that you felt hindered your movement? Unless you're trying to look up at a plane or down at your zipper, I'm not sure how you felt it hindered you.
7/23/2014 9:03am
Exactly..... That's what made me think Ryan was an idiot. The human body isn't equipped to handle getting pile driven head first into the ground at...
Exactly..... That's what made me think Ryan was an idiot. The human body isn't equipped to handle getting pile driven head first into the ground at 35 mph or more coming off a dirtbike crash. The neck brace isn't restricting any natural body movements that will reduce injury in the case of a really nasty MX/SX get-off. We often don't realize it because nasty crashes seem to happen so often, but surviving a really bad MX crash is a miracle in it's own right, let alone walking away from one without any major injuries.
IWreckALot wrote:
So how many wrecks do we have where you lawn dart as opposed to wrecks where you tumble? I can't fathom we have many lawn dart...
So how many wrecks do we have where you lawn dart as opposed to wrecks where you tumble? I can't fathom we have many lawn dart wrecks. I'm sure it happens, but neck brace or no neck brace, if you take more than one lawn dart accident, you probably have bigger issues than the neck brace can help.

What I'm getting at, is we wreck in so many different ways. Some of which the neck brace will help and some of which would seemingly hurt. My decision to not wear a neck brace stems from the fact that it seemed to hinder my ability to move my head while riding to see what's going on around me. And if you can argue that wearing one will help in as many ways as it can possibly hurt, why spend the money. Either way you have a 50/50 chance seemingly.
There's plenty of all kinds of wrecks in motocross, that's why it is impossible to say absolutely that any kind of protective gear is or isn't always going to protect you in any and all types of crashes, let alone cause more damage to your body in the event of any type of crash.

I'm sure we all agree here that a helmet will HELP protect your head in the event of just about any type of crash. The reason we all believe this is because the logic behind the use of a helmet is actually a pretty sound theory. The helmet takes the force of the impact and disperses it throughout the structure of the helmet, thus helping to reduce the impact to your head. It makes sense to just about anyone with half a brain, but we all know that if you hit your head hard enough on the ground, the helmet isn't going to be able to absorb enough of that impact and your going to take a nap that you may or may not wake up from. In other words, we all know that the theory behind why a helmet helps keep you safe is a pretty sound theory, but we also know that the theory has it's limits in the real world. Wil Hahn's recent skull fracture that he suffered while wearing a helmet in a crash comes to mind.

It's the same with a neck brace. It's a pretty logical theory to anyone with a brain that a force sent down your spine from your neck will hurt you pretty bad, but if you can HELP direct SOME of that force to a less critical part of your body's structure, you have a better chance of coming out of the crash with permanent use of your legs, or body, or life. But just like the helmet example I gave you above, the theory behind why a neck brace can help you also has it's limits in the real world. If you hit yourself hard enough on the ground, some things are going to be destroyed no matter how much protection you have on.

A neck brace will not hurt you in as many ways as it will help. The pros far outweigh the cons. I understand why you don't want to wear one, and that's fine. There were a many a folks surviving bad dirtbike crashes long before neck braces came about. Like I said above, surviving a nasty MX crash, IMO, is nothing short of a miracle. The fact that anyone survives a really bad MX crash has more to do with chance of luck than it does any type of protective gear they have on. That's why you hear a lot of riders say in interviews that they were LUCKY to come away from a certain bad crash OK. You'll never hear a rider say "It's all good. I was wearing my helmet and neck brace, so I knew I'd come through that terrible, nasty crash just fine." It's also the reason why some riders have a hard time bouncing back mentally from a really bad crash, or they lose their edge as they get older. They know things could have been much worse, and that they were lucky to come out alive. Will they be that lucky next time? Who knows, so maybe they should tone it down a little?
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I don't know Ryno but I like what I get from him thru video's and listening to him speak. Dude seems to know his stuff thru trial and error. I like his approach but I'm a 30+ year old, military vet, and been working for everything I have in life on my own (no sponsors). I'm not some amateur celeb/future star, snot nose, home schooled, 17 year old either. Aldon seems like a stuck up smart ass to me. I don't wanna hear anything he has to say. I wouldn't trust him. Seems Aldon works for most of what the "stars" of the sport need.

Watching that Supercross special on CBS Ryno seemed frustrated with Dean being a head case. Dean was prepared but couldn't deliver it seemed. I think that break-up was probably mutual. Ryno couldn't give him anymore. Dean needs something nobody can give him.
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True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain...
True, but Milsaps and Dean are 2 different individuals. Example, Davey could handle Ryno but Dean can't... I could use some stronger language but I'll refrain... Deno is DUNZO! until I'm proven wrong ;-)
Ramrod wrote:
All what is wrong with bench racing here. So you know Dean personally? How about Ryan or Davi? Have you ever had a training session with...
All what is wrong with bench racing here.

So you know Dean personally? How about Ryan or Davi? Have you ever had a training session with Ryan?

If you answered no to any one of those questions then don't make wild speculations about something you don't know about. Pretty simple.
I fuckin speculate all I want you fuggn kewk. As if you NEVER speculate.... idiot.


what's bd stand for Big Douche?
I speculate that you like Dick in your mouth. No proof just my opinion.
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7/23/2014 10:06am Edited Date/Time 7/23/2014 10:16am
Start @ 21:50


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True, I wouldn't call it HATE though. To Simply put it, I'm not a fan of the guy because he whines and complains every time shit...
True, I wouldn't call it HATE though.

To Simply put it, I'm not a fan of the guy because he whines and complains every time shit doesn't go his way. I have Zero Fucking Tolerance for Cry babies.

It's why I'm not a Stewart fan. Excuses for everything
And I'm sure the majority of people on here have zero tolerance for asshats like you.
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Exactly..... That's what made me think Ryan was an idiot. The human body isn't equipped to handle getting pile driven head first into the ground at...
Exactly..... That's what made me think Ryan was an idiot. The human body isn't equipped to handle getting pile driven head first into the ground at 35 mph or more coming off a dirtbike crash. The neck brace isn't restricting any natural body movements that will reduce injury in the case of a really nasty MX/SX get-off. We often don't realize it because nasty crashes seem to happen so often, but surviving a really bad MX crash is a miracle in it's own right, let alone walking away from one without any major injuries.
IWreckALot wrote:
So how many wrecks do we have where you lawn dart as opposed to wrecks where you tumble? I can't fathom we have many lawn dart...
So how many wrecks do we have where you lawn dart as opposed to wrecks where you tumble? I can't fathom we have many lawn dart wrecks. I'm sure it happens, but neck brace or no neck brace, if you take more than one lawn dart accident, you probably have bigger issues than the neck brace can help.

What I'm getting at, is we wreck in so many different ways. Some of which the neck brace will help and some of which would seemingly hurt. My decision to not wear a neck brace stems from the fact that it seemed to hinder my ability to move my head while riding to see what's going on around me. And if you can argue that wearing one will help in as many ways as it can possibly hurt, why spend the money. Either way you have a 50/50 chance seemingly.
Have you even ridden with a nice brace? I have a Leatt Carbon Pro, and I don't even notice it's there. The simple fact is the neck brace protects the most vulnerable (and 2nd most important) part of your body by limiting extreme motions, and absorbing and dispersing forces to much more robust areas of the body. It's pretty simple, but if you want to convince yourself otherwise that is your business.
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Markee wrote:
[img]https://rx.iscdn.net/2010/09/ryno_217431.jpg[/img] Enough said.


Enough said.
hvaughn88 wrote:
Impressive feat, no doubt. But what's your point?
That the dude has passion, drive and pride. That is a good thing. Thats my point. Those are things that make up a good trainer or anything for that matter.

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