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Squid-mom wrote:

They are both great riders, but I think you are a little too west coast biased. I don't see either one of them touching Frye or...

They are both great riders, but I think you are a little too west coast biased. I don't see either one of them touching Frye or Charboneau.

pacman00 wrote:

just results biased. Surratt beat Frye and Charboneau last year in schoolboy 1 and 2.

Squid-mom wrote:

I could be wrong. Honestly, I was as suprised as anyone to see that Surratt only won 2 out of his 8 motos at his regional...

I could be wrong. Honestly, I was as suprised as anyone to see that Surratt only won 2 out of his 8 motos at his regional and finished off the podium in 5 out 8 of them.

Squid-mom wrote:

I could be wrong. Honestly, I was as suprised as anyone to see that Surratt only won 2 out of his 8 motos at his regional...

I could be wrong. Honestly, I was as suprised as anyone to see that Surratt only won 2 out of his 8 motos at his regional and finished off the podium in 5 out 8 of them.

Gringoe wrote:

No one gives a shit about regionals. All the top riders care about is being whatever place they have to be in to qualify. He didn't...

No one gives a shit about regionals. All the top riders care about is being whatever place they have to be in to qualify.

He didn't win schoolboy 1 and 2 last year off of luck.

Squid-mom wrote:

I was in no way implying that he 'lucked' into an title last year, he is a hell of a rider and earned those championships. However...

I was in no way implying that he 'lucked' into an title last year, he is a hell of a rider and earned those championships.

However, I would disagree that no one gives a shit about regionals. He finished 6th and 7th in his first motos at the regional (outside of qualifying position) so I doubt he was sitting back "not giving a shit". Top racers come out to win- sure if you are in a qualifying spot and the leaders are out of reach one may not push the envelope and risk crashing out of that spot, but no top racer cruises around in 7th place not caring.

Gringoe wrote:

No one gives a shit about regionals. All the top riders care about is being whatever place they have to be in to qualify. He didn't...

No one gives a shit about regionals. All the top riders care about is being whatever place they have to be in to qualify.

He didn't win schoolboy 1 and 2 last year off of luck.

Original 44 wrote:

My son saw on Instagram that Austin Forkner broke his collarbone. Hope it's not true.

wm741 wrote:

[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/07/10/59073/s1200_image.jpg[/img] Uh oh!!!

Uh oh!!!

hillbilly wrote:

Forgive me,very inconsiderate,I was dick for posting that.

Maybe one day there will be a hermaphrodite ,transgender,shemale class.

Gringoe wrote:

No one gives a shit about regionals. All the top riders care about is being whatever place they have to be in to qualify. He didn't...

No one gives a shit about regionals. All the top riders care about is being whatever place they have to be in to qualify.

He didn't win schoolboy 1 and 2 last year off of luck.

Team Ideal wrote:

I'm not sure what riders you are talking about, but I know quite a few of the top kids and regionals mean a lot. none of...

I'm not sure what riders you are talking about, but I know quite a few of the top kids and regionals mean a lot. none of them cruse around content with a 7.

there were more than a few riders this year that did more than one regional to make money. Monster and most factories give very good contingency for some of these races, it may not be listed but trust me it's happening.

everyone of these kids are laying it out and the results do matter to most. I don't have a clue what happen at his regional and I'm sure he's glad he made it in but I'm also pretty sure he wasn't happy if he wasn't up front. regionals may not mean shit to you but I guarantee it does to 90% of the guys out there.

Gringoe wrote:

How do you know he didn't fall? How do you know he didn't have a problem? Results do not always tell the whole story. Basing an...

How do you know he didn't fall? How do you know he didn't have a problem? Results do not always tell the whole story. Basing an opinion off Motos that you didn't see anything of but the result is ridiculous. I'm not trying be a jerk or an asshole, it's just something moms do a lot and it's not right..

I'll say it once and I'll say it again. Regionals don't mean shit and carry no weight whatsoever. After first round of Loretta's Motos you'll know who the top dogs are.

Squid-mom wrote:

A fall or bike trouble is what you attribute it to when you see 14-1 in a particular class, but a 7th, 2-6th, and 2-4th in...

A fall or bike trouble is what you attribute it to when you see 14-1 in a particular class, but a 7th, 2-6th, and 2-4th in several classes on several different bikes doesn't sound like the case. Again, he is a great rider and I don't have a dog in this fight, I was just saying that Charboneau's 11 moto wins and Frye's 7 moto wins at regionals would indicate that they are peaking at exactly the right time. I guess this will all be figured out in a couple of weeks anyway.

Gringoe wrote:

How do you know he didn't fall? How do you know he didn't have a problem? Results do not always tell the whole story. Basing an...

How do you know he didn't fall? How do you know he didn't have a problem? Results do not always tell the whole story. Basing an opinion off Motos that you didn't see anything of but the result is ridiculous. I'm not trying be a jerk or an asshole, it's just something moms do a lot and it's not right..

I'll say it once and I'll say it again. Regionals don't mean shit and carry no weight whatsoever. After first round of Loretta's Motos you'll know who the top dogs are.

Squid-mom wrote:

A fall or bike trouble is what you attribute it to when you see 14-1 in a particular class, but a 7th, 2-6th, and 2-4th in...

A fall or bike trouble is what you attribute it to when you see 14-1 in a particular class, but a 7th, 2-6th, and 2-4th in several classes on several different bikes doesn't sound like the case. Again, he is a great rider and I don't have a dog in this fight, I was just saying that Charboneau's 11 moto wins and Frye's 7 moto wins at regionals would indicate that they are peaking at exactly the right time. I guess this will all be figured out in a couple of weeks anyway.

Gringoe wrote:

That's stupid as shit. How do you not know he didn't fall and still get 7th or whatever and ride great? You don't! All you know...

That's stupid as shit. How do you not know he didn't fall and still get 7th or whatever and ride great?

You don't! All you know is the finish. You have no idea what happened during the moto.

Squid-mom wrote:

A fall or bike trouble is what you attribute it to when you see 14-1 in a particular class, but a 7th, 2-6th, and 2-4th in...

A fall or bike trouble is what you attribute it to when you see 14-1 in a particular class, but a 7th, 2-6th, and 2-4th in several classes on several different bikes doesn't sound like the case. Again, he is a great rider and I don't have a dog in this fight, I was just saying that Charboneau's 11 moto wins and Frye's 7 moto wins at regionals would indicate that they are peaking at exactly the right time. I guess this will all be figured out in a couple of weeks anyway.

Gringoe wrote:

That's stupid as shit. How do you not know he didn't fall and still get 7th or whatever and ride great? You don't! All you know...

That's stupid as shit. How do you not know he didn't fall and still get 7th or whatever and ride great?

You don't! All you know is the finish. You have no idea what happened during the moto.

bobby397 wrote:

You're c class at best

Gringoe wrote:

No one gives a shit about regionals. All the top riders care about is being whatever place they have to be in to qualify. He didn't...

No one gives a shit about regionals. All the top riders care about is being whatever place they have to be in to qualify.

He didn't win schoolboy 1 and 2 last year off of luck.

Team Ideal wrote:

I'm not sure what riders you are talking about, but I know quite a few of the top kids and regionals mean a lot. none of...

I'm not sure what riders you are talking about, but I know quite a few of the top kids and regionals mean a lot. none of them cruse around content with a 7.

there were more than a few riders this year that did more than one regional to make money. Monster and most factories give very good contingency for some of these races, it may not be listed but trust me it's happening.

everyone of these kids are laying it out and the results do matter to most. I don't have a clue what happen at his regional and I'm sure he's glad he made it in but I'm also pretty sure he wasn't happy if he wasn't up front. regionals may not mean shit to you but I guarantee it does to 90% of the guys out there.

Gringoe wrote:

Yes It means a lot to 90% of kids out there. Not the top 10%. Don't get me wrong they aren't playing it safe and aren't...

Yes It means a lot to 90% of kids out there. Not the top 10%. Don't get me wrong they aren't playing it safe and aren't just riding around to get top whatever, but if they're on a unfamiliar track or not having a good day or just something isn't 100% the smartest of that 10% will play it safe and get 3rd 4th 5th... Of course they want to win but the smartest of the top 10% will be content with whatever, they know the race that matters is in august..

MotoX85 wrote:

Wrong, team Ideal is correct. The top riders care very much how they do at the regionals. How you finish at the regional is also your...

Wrong, team Ideal is correct. The top riders care very much how they do at the regionals. How you finish at the regional is also your gate pick on the first moto I do believe. So to the "top" riders, the regionals are very important. I have seen riders get 3rd and 4th at regionals and go to others to improve their postion.

Team Ideal wrote:

I'm not sure what riders you are talking about, but I know quite a few of the top kids and regionals mean a lot. none of...

I'm not sure what riders you are talking about, but I know quite a few of the top kids and regionals mean a lot. none of them cruse around content with a 7.

there were more than a few riders this year that did more than one regional to make money. Monster and most factories give very good contingency for some of these races, it may not be listed but trust me it's happening.

everyone of these kids are laying it out and the results do matter to most. I don't have a clue what happen at his regional and I'm sure he's glad he made it in but I'm also pretty sure he wasn't happy if he wasn't up front. regionals may not mean shit to you but I guarantee it does to 90% of the guys out there.

Gringoe wrote:

Yes It means a lot to 90% of kids out there. Not the top 10%. Don't get me wrong they aren't playing it safe and aren't...

Yes It means a lot to 90% of kids out there. Not the top 10%. Don't get me wrong they aren't playing it safe and aren't just riding around to get top whatever, but if they're on a unfamiliar track or not having a good day or just something isn't 100% the smartest of that 10% will play it safe and get 3rd 4th 5th... Of course they want to win but the smartest of the top 10% will be content with whatever, they know the race that matters is in august..

MotoX85 wrote:

Wrong, team Ideal is correct. The top riders care very much how they do at the regionals. How you finish at the regional is also your...

Wrong, team Ideal is correct. The top riders care very much how they do at the regionals. How you finish at the regional is also your gate pick on the first moto I do believe. So to the "top" riders, the regionals are very important. I have seen riders get 3rd and 4th at regionals and go to others to improve their postion.

MotoX85 wrote:

Wrong, team Ideal is correct. The top riders care very much how they do at the regionals. How you finish at the regional is also your...

Wrong, team Ideal is correct. The top riders care very much how they do at the regionals. How you finish at the regional is also your gate pick on the first moto I do believe. So to the "top" riders, the regionals are very important. I have seen riders get 3rd and 4th at regionals and go to others to improve their postion.

bobby397 wrote:

Yep, also these regionals offer pro points to get their pro card.

kzizok wrote:

In the B class, Im surprised no one has mentioned Marquier (pronounced Mark-ee-yay). He has really been riding well and has the speed if he gets...

In the B class, Im surprised no one has mentioned Marquier (pronounced Mark-ee-yay). He has really been riding well and has the speed if he gets up front. Seen him battle with Bloss a lot lately.

Squid-mom wrote:

He was not mentioned because at Iron Man he was 4+ seconds a lap slower on average than Frye, Charboneau, and Harrison. Not to mention a...

He was not mentioned because at Iron Man he was 4+ seconds a lap slower on average than Frye, Charboneau, and Harrison. Not to mention a couple seconds a lap slower than Locurcio, Bell, and Kost. His chances of a title are rather small IMO.