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The AMA riders are better,
Langston, Millsaps, Short, Townley, Dungey, Stroupe, Canard, M. Alessi, Hepler, Tedesco C. pourcel weren't even there and a few AMA riders still did great even though they were greatly out numbered.
from that sour taste of defeat.
That is the fuel of these posts, and this is the exhaust.
Unfortunately it does not smell as sweet as some U4.
More like that egg smell when your following someone up a hill...
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Ha, ha. i don't care. Just trying to make you look not so dumb by making irrelevant points. Go on as you were.
I don't think too many of the leading GP guys (apart from maybe Searle, Pourcel and maybe one or two others) rode that well. The AMA guys really struggled in these conditions, and just like in 2006 at Matterly Basin is shows how different the circuits are in europe and America.
All respect to team America, they rule the roost by miles. Could a B-team win the event, that is a big question mark, I don'think they could. After Stewart and Villopoto the playing field between AMA and FIM is pretty level.
I was impressed with Cooper though, and Bryne and Metcalfe on the saturday were impressive. I think the depth in America is deeper than we euro's thought.
Geoff
I can't wait for next year, again hard pack and the GP guys begin to think they can run with the AMA guys and that will make it exciting. Stewart and Villopoto are fast, but in my opinion this new breed of GP riders are catching up.
Pourcel wasn't worried about Stewart at all in that second moto, and had it not been for his back brake line braking on the second lap he would have maybe held his own.
Ok, I made the bit about the brake line up, hahaha.
Geoff
Ferry is nothing special he is just anopther one of the boys in GPs he got passed by the 11th placed rider in mx2 at one stage and Osbourne flew past him! If Boissieres wheel didn't break france would have one the US got lucky.
If the US struggle to win a MXDN with their enclosed pit area 50 people entourage no wonder those guys dont actually have a crack at the individual world championship!
US riders are verated imo
The top Americans are the fastest in the world in the US but its no wonder why they dont race a world championship they cant hack it outside their comfort zone and groomed loamy tracks especially for a full GP season.
Guys like Brown and Osbourne and Hamblin deserve alot of respect for stepping up to the world championship and proving their speed outside their own country ( everyone is faster in their own country)
James went 24-0 in the US and has yet to win an OA outside the US maybe he should step up and race the GPs and become the true World Champion against the best riders in the world. becuase in the US his comp this year were not on the same level as the GP guys clearly.
Even as a Euro you're definetly pushing it there. JS would win the GP series as well. Might take a few races to adapt fully but with the preparation he woudl be on top no question. Same for RV maybe AC could run with him but at the moment they both have crazy confidence and they know they can beat anyone. They are both winning machines. Stewart was killing it this weekend he just made one mistake in this second race. On saturday the front tire had a problem. if he was to race the GPs he would maybe make the odd mistake but would win easy like he has in the US especially cuz all the riders would look up at him.
Plus why on earthe would he leave his millions he gets for SX only contract to race far away from his home country and comfort for less money in Europe.
SX makes the $$$ they earn not outdoors
James was clearly faster then Pourcel or any GP's guys for that matter and there was no competition for him.
James did go 24-0 here in the states and he won his qually over there and also won his first moto by over 21 seconds over Pourcel , if you call that competition you are a fool. James made a mistake and went down (couldnt get the bike started), happens to the best of them, im sure if that had happened in a National Alessi would have capitalized on it and won an OA, just as Pourcel did....
On a side note: RV turned faster laps times in the MX1 MX2 race the Pourcel did.
RV 2:02.667
SP 2:03.369
Face it you guys got your asses handed to you again, even though the USA did have a very bad day.
Why do you come on here and spout lies and bullshit hoping people wont look the results up?
Again McIdiot- In qualifying Martin Bar's best time was 2:07.038 to Mettys 2:02.871.
Also at the finish Martin Bar was over 1minute behind Metty.
While we are on the subject of MXdN.
Ireland didnt even make the A-Main ,kinda funny they got beat out of the A-Main by a team with a girl on it. hehehehhee LOL
Pit Row
Also McCread - Rattray got lapped by RV in the second MX2 race...
If you call that staying with someone -your foolish. lol
Hehehe.. A LAPPER trying to battle with the leader is just retarded.
Rattray didn't battle with RV at all. He let him through after he had crashed, opened the door for him and then just followed him around with two or three bikes length. Nothing retarded there! He's not going to slow down is he. Even a lapper is doing his own race Tyla had a lot of catching up to do and try to make points by passing as many people he could. He put a very impressive charge good on him for keeping on charging through the moto!!!
And Yes he stayed with him. Ok he didn't have any pressure and maybe RV was not pushing hard but still he matched RV's pace!
"Hehehe.. A LAPPER trying to battle with the leader is just retarded."
Was not directed at Rattray, it was a comment about lappers in general.
Use some common sense...stupid one.
Short, Dungey, Grant, Ferry, Byrne, Lawrence, Alessi, Millsaps, Metcalfe and possibly Izzi & Hamblin would probably fit into the next category. We respect them all immensely, they're incredible riders but we also know we have guys capable of beating them. Alessi, Brown and Hamblin have proved that in recent years.
While few Americans bother to take an interest in the World Championship (which the media could be blamed for), the majority of Motocross fans from around the world follow the AMA aswell as GP's. For example they show the AMA Outdoor series on TV here in England - although two weeks late - and this, alongside the fact that we've grown up reading about the American MX & SX, gives us a broad overview of what's going on both sides of the Atlantic, not simply a prejudicial view based on the des Nations each year.
JS 1/23 9th o/a
RV 10/1 1st O/A
TF 5/9 12st O/A
took the team win ,and two out of three individual class wins.
it's like everyones somehow disppaiontred they dint completely sweep.
but how about sme perspective?
RV goes 1/10 and gets the overall..
tim overalls MX3 with a 5/9
no other indivdual riders in thier respective classes fared any better,,
I honestly dd not expect the team to take all three individual class wins.
i dont think many people did..?
the expectation is the USA team would likely win, (baring crashes /weather/ weird luck)
and that they would likely win two individual classe..
and thats what happened, they just dint win the expected MX1.
and seb pourcel rode great to take that win..
(sorry it's not a huge surprise to me,, or to anyone?
that if JS had troubles(which he did ) seb might win it)
so the event and even the individual classes ended up pretty much as fans from
either side of the pond would expect..
i just dont see the drama..
if some fans are surprised that seb and a few other GP regulars could hang in there tough,,
or that in the way the structure 9of the event, with classes and finshes being combined
,that a 1/10 or 5/9 might easily be the very best scores in a particular individual class.
thats silly,
and is a pretty minor thing to have endless day after day threads on..
but carry on, its what this place does best..
The GP riders are obviuosly great MX racers.. to think differently is foolish..
how many world GP champs need to come over and win the nats to get that level of respect?
once again the results in the mxdn show that if you take 3 riders from each country, hodge podge the scoring and classses as much as you can,,
the USA will likely have the strongest 3 rider team.
whats amazing is the very small countrires that have always done well,, like belgium..
in a event structered like the MXdN.
something in the water there..?
someoine needs to bottle that stuff and market it as mxpowerade in the USA..
(a good argument could be made for the water in florida as well )
You know what I mean ???
1. Bubba and Villopoto are the two best riders in the world, that's why team USA can't be beat.
- Behind it is completely open. Anyone, no mather if he's riding AMA or GP's, can win if those 2 are not in. In the USA or in Europe.
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