Tony's latest meltdown

plowboy wrote:

I just have knowledge from a fan/spectator perspective. The barriers/tables were a non-verbalized red flag that told me..."this side is ours...that side is yours." I wanted...

I just have knowledge from a fan/spectator perspective. The barriers/tables were a non-verbalized red flag that told me..."this side is ours...that side is yours." I wanted a perspective from the only member of the moto media that I have "semi" access to. Are journalists just allowed "free range"? I'm not really trying to weigh in on ANY side of this farce. Just something I wondered about.

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

I think one of the things that is lost in all of this.... .....Mattlthes is indeed pretty universally disliked in the pits. Tony comes off as...

I think one of the things that is lost in all of this....

.....Mattlthes is indeed pretty universally disliked in the pits.

Tony comes off as a idiot for vocalizing it, but the truth is he ain't saying anything most in pits dont agree with.

Jt$ wrote:

I am trying to stay uninvolved in this whole deal but that statement is inaccurate.

plowboy wrote:

I just have knowledge from a fan/spectator perspective. The barriers/tables were a non-verbalized red flag that told me..."this side is ours...that side is yours." I wanted...

I just have knowledge from a fan/spectator perspective. The barriers/tables were a non-verbalized red flag that told me..."this side is ours...that side is yours." I wanted a perspective from the only member of the moto media that I have "semi" access to. Are journalists just allowed "free range"? I'm not really trying to weigh in on ANY side of this farce. Just something I wondered about.

500guy wrote:

Most of the regular photogs and news people spend a lot of time with the Teams unless there is a problem it's about like visiting friends...

Most of the regular photogs and news people spend a lot of time with the Teams unless there is a problem it's about like visiting friends you don't need an invitation to walk in their pits.

KennyT wrote:

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of...

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of his paper to his face....or are you intimidated by a profanity spewing guy that may top out at 5' 4" if he's wearing fuck me pumps? Running off like a little butthurt baby and tweeting this bullshit makes you no better than the guy you were trying to make a fool of. Until you opened your gossiping mouth to the internet masses the only people that would have known about this are you and Tony. It's up to you to show who the adult was in this childish situation and you failed. Like I said before, if this took place between Tony and DC I can guarantee you it would have never made twitter. Act your age, be professional, and maybe you will get a few more followers other than the drama desiring kids that listen to you now

bobby397 wrote:

Any idea where I could find the tony hitler video?

Any idea where I could find the tony hitler video?

KennyT wrote:

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of...

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of his paper to his face....or are you intimidated by a profanity spewing guy that may top out at 5' 4" if he's wearing fuck me pumps? Running off like a little butthurt baby and tweeting this bullshit makes you no better than the guy you were trying to make a fool of. Until you opened your gossiping mouth to the internet masses the only people that would have known about this are you and Tony. It's up to you to show who the adult was in this childish situation and you failed. Like I said before, if this took place between Tony and DC I can guarantee you it would have never made twitter. Act your age, be professional, and maybe you will get a few more followers other than the drama desiring kids that listen to you now

bobby397 wrote:

Somebody needs a hug.....

KennyT wrote:

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of...

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of his paper to his face....or are you intimidated by a profanity spewing guy that may top out at 5' 4" if he's wearing fuck me pumps? Running off like a little butthurt baby and tweeting this bullshit makes you no better than the guy you were trying to make a fool of. Until you opened your gossiping mouth to the internet masses the only people that would have known about this are you and Tony. It's up to you to show who the adult was in this childish situation and you failed. Like I said before, if this took place between Tony and DC I can guarantee you it would have never made twitter. Act your age, be professional, and maybe you will get a few more followers other than the drama desiring kids that listen to you now

scott_nz wrote:

so Tony tries to gag the press, and you don't think it should be mentioned at all? anything else you want swept under the carpet while...

so Tony tries to gag the press, and you don't think it should be mentioned at all? anything else you want swept under the carpet while we are at it?

If Tony thinks the guy is out to get him, just calmly tell him he is not able to interview his riders (like Genova did earlier in the year, then talked it though with Steve and got them back on the program),

OW38B wrote:

Forget Drug testing the racers, that is the least of the worries in MX/SX. We seriously need to drug test the MX/SX team personnel and the...

Forget Drug testing the racers, that is the least of the worries in MX/SX.

We seriously need to drug test the MX/SX team personnel and the MX/SX journalist types..............Tony Allesi and Steve Matthes should both be first.

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

Next to nobody would pass a test.

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

Hardly. The relationship between this sport and its media is contentious. And that is putting it mildly. The guy whom is most disliked? Take a guess...

Hardly.

The relationship between this sport and its media is contentious. And that is putting it mildly.

The guy whom is most disliked? Take a guess.

The guys who are halfway respected... They play ball and dont have a agenda other than to promote the sport in a positive manner.

This sports best "journalists" are somewhat neutered by the very nature of the way this sport operates. It is what it is.

An exception to the rule is GuyB actually. Not disliked, but go figure, he's about as nice a guy you'll meet in this sport as you can find. The teams hate Vital yet they respect GuyB. See how that works? Its never personal.

Whereas the same person is constantly up in the business of some TMZ type shit. Which wouldn't be nearly as comical if he didn't claim it was in the name of "journalism". Everyone sees right thru the BS. Once there is a agenda, you're no longer a journalist. Youre a hater. And furthermore, we all got skeletons in our closet. The media person in question is no exception.

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

Hardly. The relationship between this sport and its media is contentious. And that is putting it mildly. The guy whom is most disliked? Take a guess...

Hardly.

The relationship between this sport and its media is contentious. And that is putting it mildly.

The guy whom is most disliked? Take a guess.

The guys who are halfway respected... They play ball and dont have a agenda other than to promote the sport in a positive manner.

This sports best "journalists" are somewhat neutered by the very nature of the way this sport operates. It is what it is.

An exception to the rule is GuyB actually. Not disliked, but go figure, he's about as nice a guy you'll meet in this sport as you can find. The teams hate Vital yet they respect GuyB. See how that works? Its never personal.

Whereas the same person is constantly up in the business of some TMZ type shit. Which wouldn't be nearly as comical if he didn't claim it was in the name of "journalism". Everyone sees right thru the BS. Once there is a agenda, you're no longer a journalist. Youre a hater. And furthermore, we all got skeletons in our closet. The media person in question is no exception.

Jt$ wrote:

Yes, 99% of the paddock comes onto his show because they hate him. I understand that you may not like him but you are projecting your...

Yes, 99% of the paddock comes onto his show because they hate him. I understand that you may not like him but you are projecting your opinion onto hundreds of people and incorrectly at that.

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

Hardly. The relationship between this sport and its media is contentious. And that is putting it mildly. The guy whom is most disliked? Take a guess...

Hardly.

The relationship between this sport and its media is contentious. And that is putting it mildly.

The guy whom is most disliked? Take a guess.

The guys who are halfway respected... They play ball and dont have a agenda other than to promote the sport in a positive manner.

This sports best "journalists" are somewhat neutered by the very nature of the way this sport operates. It is what it is.

An exception to the rule is GuyB actually. Not disliked, but go figure, he's about as nice a guy you'll meet in this sport as you can find. The teams hate Vital yet they respect GuyB. See how that works? Its never personal.

Whereas the same person is constantly up in the business of some TMZ type shit. Which wouldn't be nearly as comical if he didn't claim it was in the name of "journalism". Everyone sees right thru the BS. Once there is a agenda, you're no longer a journalist. Youre a hater. And furthermore, we all got skeletons in our closet. The media person in question is no exception.

Jt$ wrote:

Yes, 99% of the paddock comes onto his show because they hate him. I understand that you may not like him but you are projecting your...

Yes, 99% of the paddock comes onto his show because they hate him. I understand that you may not like him but you are projecting your opinion onto hundreds of people and incorrectly at that.

Matthes wrote:

It's hilarious that you want the media to sign a contract saying that your team has final say over editorial..it's amazing you would think this was...

It's hilarious that you want the media to sign a contract saying that your team has final say over editorial..it's amazing you would think this was cool but then the provision where the media guy can't tell anyone he signed it? Let's just humor that and say that this was somehow normal...you don't have a second copy for the media guy to take for his records?

If you're trying to be sneaky and underhanded by not giving someone a copy of what they sign AND you're trying to say that said person can't tell anyone about what they signed--well, in my opinion, you deserve to get called out for all the world to see.

More people should call out complete bullshit when it happens...maybe then there would be less bullshit in the world?

KennyT wrote:

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of...

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of his paper to his face....or are you intimidated by a profanity spewing guy that may top out at 5' 4" if he's wearing fuck me pumps? Running off like a little butthurt baby and tweeting this bullshit makes you no better than the guy you were trying to make a fool of. Until you opened your gossiping mouth to the internet masses the only people that would have known about this are you and Tony. It's up to you to show who the adult was in this childish situation and you failed. Like I said before, if this took place between Tony and DC I can guarantee you it would have never made twitter. Act your age, be professional, and maybe you will get a few more followers other than the drama desiring kids that listen to you now

KennyT wrote:

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of...

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of his paper to his face....or are you intimidated by a profanity spewing guy that may top out at 5' 4" if he's wearing fuck me pumps? Running off like a little butthurt baby and tweeting this bullshit makes you no better than the guy you were trying to make a fool of. Until you opened your gossiping mouth to the internet masses the only people that would have known about this are you and Tony. It's up to you to show who the adult was in this childish situation and you failed. Like I said before, if this took place between Tony and DC I can guarantee you it would have never made twitter. Act your age, be professional, and maybe you will get a few more followers other than the drama desiring kids that listen to you now

Rizzo wrote:

You're so contradictory is not even funny. You're telling Matthes to walk away and in the next sentence, you're telling him to stand up to Tony...

You're so contradictory is not even funny. You're telling Matthes to walk away and in the next sentence, you're telling him to stand up to Tony. There are essentially 2 types of people in this situation, passive and aggressive. Aggressive person punches Tony in the mouth not for the contract, but for the straight disrespect. A passive person walks away and says no thanks, which is EXACTLY what Matthes did. Tony stalked him and started the trash talk and insults to Matthes. Now, when a passive person had has enough and wants to defend or fight back, 99% of the time, it's in a manner similar to this where they exploit that person and their actions pubicly. Matthes putting this out there is = to an aggressive person punching Tony in the mouth.

I would bet everything I have have that if Tony had been polite and respectful with ANY request of Matthes, he would have responded in kind. Honestly, do you think Matthes tweeted this to get publicity or he did it because he was fed up with Tony's actions/words/attitude and was fighting back? It's the same as an aggressive person getting physical, here, a passive person used his mind and his wits to fight back. Let me sum this up for you......Me=aggressive, if you come at me cursing, insulting and threatening, I'm going to fight you. Matthes=passive, if you come at him cursing, insulting, threatening, he's going to embarrass you, exploit you, out smart you or beat you at your own game so to speak.

Finally, why does Tony have such a hard on for Matthes and not your hero DC? Coombs handed down the stiff penalties for lazer gate, DC confronted Tony and didnt back down both at Washougal and after. DC even commented here and in print about that and he's put out several other statements on Vital about other controversial topics like GH, how is this any different? Matthes first reported lazer gate which turned out to be 100% true and Tony has had it out for him ever since, why is it OK for Tony to scream and fight in the manner he chooses, but Matthes cant defend himself in the manner he chooses? Can you say double standard.

burn1986 wrote:

You know, if Matthes would quit stirring Tony up he would probably not have as many meltdowns. It's like he's sees Matthes comin and immediately starts...

You know, if Matthes would quit stirring Tony up he would probably not have as many meltdowns. It's like he's sees Matthes comin and immediately starts schitzing out.

KennyT wrote:

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of...

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of his paper to his face....or are you intimidated by a profanity spewing guy that may top out at 5' 4" if he's wearing fuck me pumps? Running off like a little butthurt baby and tweeting this bullshit makes you no better than the guy you were trying to make a fool of. Until you opened your gossiping mouth to the internet masses the only people that would have known about this are you and Tony. It's up to you to show who the adult was in this childish situation and you failed. Like I said before, if this took place between Tony and DC I can guarantee you it would have never made twitter. Act your age, be professional, and maybe you will get a few more followers other than the drama desiring kids that listen to you now

bobby397 wrote:

Somebody needs a hug.....

KennyT wrote:

Honestly I'm doing fine bobby. Grand kids here for the weekend, I have enough hugs to last me a lifetime by the time they get thru...

Honestly I'm doing fine bobby. Grand kids here for the weekend, I have enough hugs to last me a lifetime by the time they get thru with me.

Now Tony....he could use some hugs and probably drugs.

Steve....he needs a pacifier and a book on how to be a unbiased ...cough-cough...journalist

Insider347 wrote:

Sorry, but you are projecting your opinion as well. I don't personally know either Tony or Steve so I can't say but this situation can be...

Sorry, but you are projecting your opinion as well.
I don't personally know either Tony or Steve so I can't say but this situation can be seen both ways.

No disrespect to you either, I'm a fan.

Insider347 wrote:

Sorry, but you are projecting your opinion as well. I don't personally know either Tony or Steve so I can't say but this situation can be...

Sorry, but you are projecting your opinion as well.
I don't personally know either Tony or Steve so I can't say but this situation can be seen both ways.

No disrespect to you either, I'm a fan.

Jt$ wrote:

No, I'm being objective of whether or not the majority of the paddock likes him. It's irrelevant if I like him or not. When people don't...

No, I'm being objective of whether or not the majority of the paddock likes him. It's irrelevant if I like him or not. When people don't like someone, they generally don't chit chat with said person on track walk, riders meetings, after the races, on his own radio show etc. Saying that he is generally disliked in the pits is a bit laughable to me and I would suspect you get the same answer if you ask around. I don't take offense, if I thought people didn't like him, I wouldn't shy away from that. There are people that would fall into this category but Matthes isn't one.

wired4speed wrote:

Still trying to understand why Matthes would travel to see Alessi. Is the Canadian National scene something Steve enjoys reporting on and has done it in...

Still trying to understand why Matthes would travel to see Alessi. Is the Canadian National scene something Steve enjoys reporting on and has done it in past years? If not, was he there to print a positive viewpoint of Alessi's Team? If not, he was there just to fuck around and Tony saw thru the bull shit.

Matthes wrote:

I'm Canadian, I go to a race or two almost every year. Because I enjoy it, it costs me money out of my pocket to go...

I'm Canadian, I go to a race or two almost every year. Because I enjoy it, it costs me money out of my pocket to go but I usually enjoy it. This trip, because of the horrendous conditions, not so much.

Moto_Hurricane wrote:

So you're saying you view Matthes as a responsible, professional journalist? What responsible, professional journalist handles a situation like this in the way Matthes did? He...

So you're saying you view Matthes as a responsible, professional journalist? What responsible, professional journalist handles a situation like this in the way Matthes did? He could have said these were the terms of the interview and I didn't agree with them.....not make a mockery of the situation and make statements such as Tony had another meltdown and generate 10 pages of circus.

Matthes wrote:

Dear someone in the Alessi family or Motoconcepts, That's exactly what I did. I laughed, realized he was serious, said I wasn't signing the "contract" and...

Dear someone in the Alessi family or Motoconcepts, That's exactly what I did. I laughed, realized he was serious, said I wasn't signing the "contract" and proceeded to walk away. End of story...EXCEPT Tony asked for the contract back (and again, shouldn't I get to keep a copy of this underhanded attempt to control media? Why was there something in there that said I couldn't tell anyone I signed this? Pretty shady no?) and I said I would have to look it over and walked away.

And that is when he exploded, calling me a mother fucker, saying I'm not "protected" in Canada, asking me if I wanted to "go", some more Mother fuckers, telling me that no one likes me, etc etc. And he was yelling all this.

Once presented with the terms, I refused and walked away with my "contract" to review...then he, once again, became very unprofessional and an incredible asshole. This is on him. I posted it, (like I said in the other post) because when people are bullies and a-holes, they need to be called out on it. Maybe next time, he thinks a little bit harder.

KennyT wrote:

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of...

You can try and defend yourself all you want. Be a man and stand up to Tonys childish outburst and tell him what you think of his paper to his face....or are you intimidated by a profanity spewing guy that may top out at 5' 4" if he's wearing fuck me pumps? Running off like a little butthurt baby and tweeting this bullshit makes you no better than the guy you were trying to make a fool of. Until you opened your gossiping mouth to the internet masses the only people that would have known about this are you and Tony. It's up to you to show who the adult was in this childish situation and you failed. Like I said before, if this took place between Tony and DC I can guarantee you it would have never made twitter. Act your age, be professional, and maybe you will get a few more followers other than the drama desiring kids that listen to you now