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So about 7 months ago I severely broke my tib/fib and 'crushed' my ankle was the term they used I'm not sure if that means broke something else along with tib/fib however anywho I was told it was a life changing injury.. had some metal plates put in some screws the plates went about half way up my shin and even though it was limiting me on how far I could bend it 7 months in .. I was actually suprised at how far I had made it and could almost do everything I was doing before including riding without really noticing it unless i stubbed it on something then it had a good ache to it that didn't feel like it was something I should be doing lol.. Luckily I did only stub it once or twice and nothing severe..
Okay so call me stupid.. maybe I am.. I love motorcycles have a passion for them grew up riding and have for the most part had a pretty enjoyable experience overall in the 20 or so years i've ridden. I'm 30 years of age btw. Well when I broke my ankle they told me I could loose my leg so I was pretty careful I didn't want to push it and 6-7 months later when i was healed up enough to almost kickstart the bike with that leg (not quite) I would ride just enough to get some fresh air and then put my bike up.. I went on like 2-3 decent rides that lasted 5 hours or so, but otherwise my rides were short and sweet and nothing intense. I DID NOT want to rebreak that leg especially them telling me I could have lost it last time.
Well low and behold my luck is shit.. I went 2 days ago on a little 5 minute ride just to get some fresh air .. on the Sheletowee Trace Trail which runs by my house.. However I just went maybe a mile away and had no intentions of really riding just getting some air and getting my breathing/heart rate right for the day since I had been laying around most of my healing process.. The trail crosses a powerline/underground pipe cutout where the tree's have been cut and I took a detour on that cutout which at the bottom has a down hill and back up U shape hill.. and at the very bottom of the U is a pond on the right that is dam'd up .. small pond nothing major just big enough to call a pond i guess.
Well I went down and back up and was rippin the old 2 stroke back up the other side just giving it hell on the uphill part not doing nothing more than spinning really nothing intense.. 2nd gear/3rd gear on off .. after about 3 times of doing this I was going to do it one more time and this time when I come into the U my bike compressed and there was a hump at the bottom of the U just maybe 1ft high.. wore down where the bike path is but still abrupt off to the side of the bike path.. This time when i hit that hump my foot got kicked off the footpeg and my toes hit directly onto that 1ft~ hump which was like kicking a minature wall.. instantly it re-snapped my leg right in the middle of my shin and I knew right away I had broke it..
In disguist I just let my bike fall over I was so aggrivated it was beyond comprehension.. Afterwards I realized that was a mistake because my bike was laying on a hill.. facing downhill.. my leg was twisting the bottom half below the shin I could have turned it in a complete circle and sometimes it was almost doing so itself.. popping in and out of place grinding.. felt like it was in about 3-4 pieces.. pretty painful but I consider myself a bone breaking fool no phun intended.. so even though it was horrible a gruesome.. I was pretty calm .. I worked on trying to pick my bike up standing on one leg .. every movement caused my leg to pop and twist it was pretty hard to push forward I just had to suck it up.. Somehow I managed to get my bike picked up and it took every ounce of strength I had to do so.. I found myself in a open area .. on a hill.. with nothing to hold onto to get onto the bike so I held the clutch in and used the front break to let the bike roll over next to the woodline.. Although the woodline was just brush and dead branches.. nothing I could grab onto so it really did nothing for me..
At this point I was catching my breath and I started going to sleep even though I was sitting up and active I was drifting out fairly quickly.. I was calm but I knew it was probably shock .. and I did my best to just stay awake, but knew I probably didn't want to spend to much time thinking about what I had to do since I felt like any second I could pass out uncontrollably again even though I was perfectly calm.
I somehow managed to get my butt up on seat and balance my bike with nothing to grab to .. my front tire was in some dead limbs so it was kinda tricky to get it lined out without falling over .. im still downhill from the bike.. but I knew I wasnt going to have nothing to hold onto to kick my bike over to start it if it would even start.. Just getting my butt up on the seat and getting my leg swung over was intense and my leg was distorting .. i'd shake it downward to pop it out of place or seperate the bones.. it seemed to feel best in that position.. I also kept a eye for blood in my boot but whereas lastime i broke my lower leg i took my boot off.. this time I had to get myself out of the woods so I just left it on.. They were pretty loose fitting so it wasnt going to be to bad to remove them once my leg swelled.
I looked around there was no good places to coast my bike to.. I thought about roll starting but my bike is a major pain in roll starting.. I've pulled it behind a vehicle once on the road and i had to put it in 4th gear and keep flopping down on the seat.. so I knew the distance i had to try to start it and it was somewhat slick dirt that I would likely just slide and possibly fall over making things even more painful difficult.. So I eliminated that thought and knew it would be best to try to kick it over with my good leg.. Since there was no where to pull it I coasted up to the 'dam' for the pond and got as close as i could since i could coast down the hill i was on i was able to pick pretty good where i wanted my bike to be but the angle of the bank was so low that there was a high chance my bike would foul out it was far from up and down, but I knew it was all I had to hope for.. I was far enough away from the house that dragging myself would be possible but not something that would have been pleasant at all!
I was on the right side of my bike.. I put my hands on the seat and used my knee on my good leg to get my leg up on the kickstand but where it was so laid over my foot kept slipping off and where my other leg was dangling/painful popping twisting i could not put any weight so it was useless.. Also everytime I'd get my foot up on the kickstand since I was using that leg to support me and my arms but not to successfully.. When i'd get my foot up there on the kickstand if it didnt slide off lol the little weight i had on it would roll the engine over just enough that I couldn't get a kick in..
Somehow someway I lucked out and managed to just kinda hop in the air using my hands and come down on the kickstart.. the bike fired right up was very lucky of this.. very lucky i wasnt bleeding out.. didnt know what it looked like yet just knew my foot was flopping everywhere and was very unpleasant.. it was almost to much to push through but I knew I had to suck it up and do what was to be done.. I got my bike back up off the 'dam' kept it running and slowly creeped up back to the house.. on the way the trail gets narrow and where i had my foot dangling off the side I had already hit a rock in the trail and then @ the skinny part there was some shrubbery/brush and my leg got hung up in that and twisted it back lol but I ended up making it home and getting my gf to come outside..
Skip forward a bit of waiting on her to get things ready and when I was in the car getting ready to goto the hospital I was holding my kneecap in the front and letting my leg suspend.. The momentum of the car forward or backward would make my leg swing like a pendulum lol I had to use the door as a brace so my leg would stay straight and managed to deal with it pretty calmly still it was pretty intense but I was able to stay focused..
About 24-30 hours later they got me in surgery pretty fast.. the ankle injury I first had I waited 2 days before I got any assistance the hospital was so packed.. This time I was glad to go into surgery pretty quickly.. Once I saw my X-RAY my tib and fib had snapped in a different spot but the tib was broke right at the top of the metal plate from the last injury and right where the top screw went.. I also realized later on that when I broke my ankle I had pins sticking into my bone and a external fixator .. well where it broke the bottom pin in my shin they put in was also there (not anymore but im sure that didnt help when it came to rebreaking it)
They took some of the previous hardware out since they couldnt put the titanium rod in because the metal plates had screws and they needed to go through the inside of the tibia.. they said they did leave some hardware I'm not sure if they took it out put it back after they put the titanium rod or what.. Last time I had surgery it was hellish when I came out of it.. Felt like someone took a skil-saw or saw-saw to my leg no joke.. So I mentioned this to them and they told me they would do a 'nerve block' and I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS.. when I came out of surgery I was ready to go back to sleep I was so comfy.. unlike the hellish time so thats a good thing to request .. it keeps the whole area numb for like 1-2 days and it really helps the initial post surgery experience.. although when it wears off .. here comes the pain lol (but bearable and no where near as bad as my ankle and waiting so long to get operated on)
So now I have a titanium rod.. some hardware from the last break and they told me if I broke it again I would likely loose my leg.. oddly they told me this when i broke my ankle the first time so as retarded as I feel saying it I think im going to hang up the towel for awhile.. I have a 4 year old daughter.. I'm in a financial hardship and now going to be down a year and a half or more with injuries counting the previous injury .. so yeh not something I care to do a 3rd time..
I know if I dont sell my bike and quad that I will just get on it and go fast again although I was pretty safe and not really going to fast this time around.. I like to ride hard and it looks like my time is up
Anyone else had any experiences similar? Anyone ever broke the titanium rod? I don't want to chance it at this point lol just wondering if anyone else had a similar situation or story of survival where they were by themselves and had to get out of the woods or wherever with injury..
Anywho figured I would share.. It's like day 3 .. the pain is pretty tolerable .. really my kneecap where its swole up (if you havent go watch how they insert those titanium rods lol).. really thats the only thing that is sore.. I been bending it and getting it loosened up.. Otherwise nothings hurting worth mentioning so I think once that swelling goes down after a few days I'll be good to go and might get some sleep..
Guys be careful ! I've rode all my life and just goes to show accidents happen.. Always take a riding buddy .. your cellphone might help but may have no service .. It's pretty intense when you have to figure out how to get yourself out of a situation like that.. and if i would have been bleeding out and hadta made a tourniquet and all that it woulda made it that much more intense..
Let me know what you think of my crappy luck lol!
- Kenny (30yr / Kentucky)
Okay so call me stupid.. maybe I am.. I love motorcycles have a passion for them grew up riding and have for the most part had a pretty enjoyable experience overall in the 20 or so years i've ridden. I'm 30 years of age btw. Well when I broke my ankle they told me I could loose my leg so I was pretty careful I didn't want to push it and 6-7 months later when i was healed up enough to almost kickstart the bike with that leg (not quite) I would ride just enough to get some fresh air and then put my bike up.. I went on like 2-3 decent rides that lasted 5 hours or so, but otherwise my rides were short and sweet and nothing intense. I DID NOT want to rebreak that leg especially them telling me I could have lost it last time.
Well low and behold my luck is shit.. I went 2 days ago on a little 5 minute ride just to get some fresh air .. on the Sheletowee Trace Trail which runs by my house.. However I just went maybe a mile away and had no intentions of really riding just getting some air and getting my breathing/heart rate right for the day since I had been laying around most of my healing process.. The trail crosses a powerline/underground pipe cutout where the tree's have been cut and I took a detour on that cutout which at the bottom has a down hill and back up U shape hill.. and at the very bottom of the U is a pond on the right that is dam'd up .. small pond nothing major just big enough to call a pond i guess.
Well I went down and back up and was rippin the old 2 stroke back up the other side just giving it hell on the uphill part not doing nothing more than spinning really nothing intense.. 2nd gear/3rd gear on off .. after about 3 times of doing this I was going to do it one more time and this time when I come into the U my bike compressed and there was a hump at the bottom of the U just maybe 1ft high.. wore down where the bike path is but still abrupt off to the side of the bike path.. This time when i hit that hump my foot got kicked off the footpeg and my toes hit directly onto that 1ft~ hump which was like kicking a minature wall.. instantly it re-snapped my leg right in the middle of my shin and I knew right away I had broke it..
In disguist I just let my bike fall over I was so aggrivated it was beyond comprehension.. Afterwards I realized that was a mistake because my bike was laying on a hill.. facing downhill.. my leg was twisting the bottom half below the shin I could have turned it in a complete circle and sometimes it was almost doing so itself.. popping in and out of place grinding.. felt like it was in about 3-4 pieces.. pretty painful but I consider myself a bone breaking fool no phun intended.. so even though it was horrible a gruesome.. I was pretty calm .. I worked on trying to pick my bike up standing on one leg .. every movement caused my leg to pop and twist it was pretty hard to push forward I just had to suck it up.. Somehow I managed to get my bike picked up and it took every ounce of strength I had to do so.. I found myself in a open area .. on a hill.. with nothing to hold onto to get onto the bike so I held the clutch in and used the front break to let the bike roll over next to the woodline.. Although the woodline was just brush and dead branches.. nothing I could grab onto so it really did nothing for me..
At this point I was catching my breath and I started going to sleep even though I was sitting up and active I was drifting out fairly quickly.. I was calm but I knew it was probably shock .. and I did my best to just stay awake, but knew I probably didn't want to spend to much time thinking about what I had to do since I felt like any second I could pass out uncontrollably again even though I was perfectly calm.
I somehow managed to get my butt up on seat and balance my bike with nothing to grab to .. my front tire was in some dead limbs so it was kinda tricky to get it lined out without falling over .. im still downhill from the bike.. but I knew I wasnt going to have nothing to hold onto to kick my bike over to start it if it would even start.. Just getting my butt up on the seat and getting my leg swung over was intense and my leg was distorting .. i'd shake it downward to pop it out of place or seperate the bones.. it seemed to feel best in that position.. I also kept a eye for blood in my boot but whereas lastime i broke my lower leg i took my boot off.. this time I had to get myself out of the woods so I just left it on.. They were pretty loose fitting so it wasnt going to be to bad to remove them once my leg swelled.
I looked around there was no good places to coast my bike to.. I thought about roll starting but my bike is a major pain in roll starting.. I've pulled it behind a vehicle once on the road and i had to put it in 4th gear and keep flopping down on the seat.. so I knew the distance i had to try to start it and it was somewhat slick dirt that I would likely just slide and possibly fall over making things even more painful difficult.. So I eliminated that thought and knew it would be best to try to kick it over with my good leg.. Since there was no where to pull it I coasted up to the 'dam' for the pond and got as close as i could since i could coast down the hill i was on i was able to pick pretty good where i wanted my bike to be but the angle of the bank was so low that there was a high chance my bike would foul out it was far from up and down, but I knew it was all I had to hope for.. I was far enough away from the house that dragging myself would be possible but not something that would have been pleasant at all!
I was on the right side of my bike.. I put my hands on the seat and used my knee on my good leg to get my leg up on the kickstand but where it was so laid over my foot kept slipping off and where my other leg was dangling/painful popping twisting i could not put any weight so it was useless.. Also everytime I'd get my foot up on the kickstand since I was using that leg to support me and my arms but not to successfully.. When i'd get my foot up there on the kickstand if it didnt slide off lol the little weight i had on it would roll the engine over just enough that I couldn't get a kick in..
Somehow someway I lucked out and managed to just kinda hop in the air using my hands and come down on the kickstart.. the bike fired right up was very lucky of this.. very lucky i wasnt bleeding out.. didnt know what it looked like yet just knew my foot was flopping everywhere and was very unpleasant.. it was almost to much to push through but I knew I had to suck it up and do what was to be done.. I got my bike back up off the 'dam' kept it running and slowly creeped up back to the house.. on the way the trail gets narrow and where i had my foot dangling off the side I had already hit a rock in the trail and then @ the skinny part there was some shrubbery/brush and my leg got hung up in that and twisted it back lol but I ended up making it home and getting my gf to come outside..
Skip forward a bit of waiting on her to get things ready and when I was in the car getting ready to goto the hospital I was holding my kneecap in the front and letting my leg suspend.. The momentum of the car forward or backward would make my leg swing like a pendulum lol I had to use the door as a brace so my leg would stay straight and managed to deal with it pretty calmly still it was pretty intense but I was able to stay focused..
About 24-30 hours later they got me in surgery pretty fast.. the ankle injury I first had I waited 2 days before I got any assistance the hospital was so packed.. This time I was glad to go into surgery pretty quickly.. Once I saw my X-RAY my tib and fib had snapped in a different spot but the tib was broke right at the top of the metal plate from the last injury and right where the top screw went.. I also realized later on that when I broke my ankle I had pins sticking into my bone and a external fixator .. well where it broke the bottom pin in my shin they put in was also there (not anymore but im sure that didnt help when it came to rebreaking it)
They took some of the previous hardware out since they couldnt put the titanium rod in because the metal plates had screws and they needed to go through the inside of the tibia.. they said they did leave some hardware I'm not sure if they took it out put it back after they put the titanium rod or what.. Last time I had surgery it was hellish when I came out of it.. Felt like someone took a skil-saw or saw-saw to my leg no joke.. So I mentioned this to them and they told me they would do a 'nerve block' and I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS.. when I came out of surgery I was ready to go back to sleep I was so comfy.. unlike the hellish time so thats a good thing to request .. it keeps the whole area numb for like 1-2 days and it really helps the initial post surgery experience.. although when it wears off .. here comes the pain lol (but bearable and no where near as bad as my ankle and waiting so long to get operated on)
So now I have a titanium rod.. some hardware from the last break and they told me if I broke it again I would likely loose my leg.. oddly they told me this when i broke my ankle the first time so as retarded as I feel saying it I think im going to hang up the towel for awhile.. I have a 4 year old daughter.. I'm in a financial hardship and now going to be down a year and a half or more with injuries counting the previous injury .. so yeh not something I care to do a 3rd time..
I know if I dont sell my bike and quad that I will just get on it and go fast again although I was pretty safe and not really going to fast this time around.. I like to ride hard and it looks like my time is up
Anyone else had any experiences similar? Anyone ever broke the titanium rod? I don't want to chance it at this point lol just wondering if anyone else had a similar situation or story of survival where they were by themselves and had to get out of the woods or wherever with injury..
Anywho figured I would share.. It's like day 3 .. the pain is pretty tolerable .. really my kneecap where its swole up (if you havent go watch how they insert those titanium rods lol).. really thats the only thing that is sore.. I been bending it and getting it loosened up.. Otherwise nothings hurting worth mentioning so I think once that swelling goes down after a few days I'll be good to go and might get some sleep..
Guys be careful ! I've rode all my life and just goes to show accidents happen.. Always take a riding buddy .. your cellphone might help but may have no service .. It's pretty intense when you have to figure out how to get yourself out of a situation like that.. and if i would have been bleeding out and hadta made a tourniquet and all that it woulda made it that much more intense..
Let me know what you think of my crappy luck lol!
- Kenny (30yr / Kentucky)
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I never dreamed i'd rebreak it and everyone was dogging me for riding after the first time around.. I have to admit riding was my rehabilitation and did improve the range of motion of my ankle substantially .. I do think it was a critical part in my healing process last time.. but as you see one mistake and bam right back bed ridden!.. sucks lol
I'm a vet programmer I have a couple projects going right now so I have plenty of time to work on those which might be some good that comes out of all this.. but laying in bed most of a year and a half is not going to be healthy to say the least!
thanks again for giving my story the time.. I felt pretty proud I was able to suffer through it, but not proud I did it again lol..
Good luck with your recovery I know how you feel.
Good on ya kid. Hang in there.
if it makes you feel any better, I had one of these on each leg when I broke both heels... Stupid dirt bikes!
No hard luck story like that here, however these are the reasons I no longer ride.
I had riden for almost 45 yrs without to much injury, but with the onset of crazy jumps and the internets, started seeing and hearing about this type stuff way too much!!
Take care!
I've had a fun life.. lots of riding.. lots of crazy experiences.. I guess some would keep on rocking and rolling but my brain is tellin me to just accept that its time to admit it could happen again and you can't control everything no matter how good you think you are!
Sorry to hear about you and the docs told me they had seen people break the metal, but not often! Wow man this situation has taken my trust completely out of metal plates not that I had much anyways.. Anytime you go putting new holes into the bones via screws or whatever your just giving it a place to be weak.. Agree'd that titanium rod is like night and day so thats a comforting feeling to know that it's not exactly the same process I went through last time I can already tell that a few days in..
Good luck man.. thanks for sharing
Thought i'd update with my first doctor visit after this 2nd break. Got my staples out today.. the xray looked boss I got one solid piece of metal looks as good as i coulda hoped for maybe one day i can put a pic of that up.. Anyways heres the first unwrapping of the 2nd break!
HaHa.....
Pit Row
Just get better and then decide what you want to do with riding. Broke my ankles four times, seven surgeries and talk of amputation in 06 broke again last year with another surgery. All from mx. I am back up to speed and feel well at the moment!
Get better man!
so personally i dont recommend the metal plates as more than just a 'hey we put this in here to get the pieces to fuse.. were gonna go back and put you a metal rod in !!' lol..
i remember before i broke my leg and the first time especially i would go through reading peoples stories and they're hard to come by the ones that people go into good detail show pics and have something just nutz they gotta pull themselves out of.. mine wasnt completely nuts it was bad dont get me wrong.. had to put on big boy panties to get myself out of the situation but ah it wasnt nothing 75% of us in the world couldnt have pushed through i'd imagine.. who knows lol..
thanks again though glad everyones been positive and likes to check the pics/share they're side of it and all around just the community that mx is. thanks guys.
but if you can prevent it do so.. wear that leatte brace.. always wear a helmet and also spend the extra $ or research which boots are the best for these type of injuries.. any kind of braces wear those to.. you might say why the crap am i wearing this stuff from time to time but just keep in mind if you werent how many breaks would you have had already?
don't go riding alone atleast have a cellphone although if your like me cellphone signal is gone once you hit the woods.. i was almost in a shitty situation and before i never gave it a second thought i'd go riding miles and hours at a time and end up in another county practically lol by myself.. now i probably wont leave the site of my house unless my riding buddies go with me just because you never know what can go wrong..
last but not least.. dont let fear control you! even though im hanging up the towel im likely not done i just gotta tell myself that so i wont hop back on one to soon
i'm pretty sow'd up now.. but i rode ever since i was about 4 years old on a JR 50 and im 30yr now.. so 26 years? .. i broke a collarbone jumping during that time.. i drunk some alchohol and was not 'riding smart' one time almost hit my buddy in a truck on a one lane road that connects to a trail (i was going to the mx track to ask if i could ride the next day).. broke a piece of my spine (spinus process) and that one still bothers me.. so even tho im like being daddy for a second i rode for many years and the times i was injured was my own stupidity.. accidents happen but riding smart and being equipped can save you in the end! ok im done haha
RIP Austin Mincey
that's a nasty break.
I had a similar break about this time last year.
My own short story is
6/17/13 -
broke tib/fib. Shear, torsion and compression forces simultaneously. Several large pieces of tib displaced
6/18/13 - Pre-checkout exam showed undetectable distal pulse.
emergency fasciotomy to relieve Compartment Syndrome saved foot
External fixator applied
6/22/13 - Surgery to remove external fixator, and install plates on tibia and fibula. Tibial fracture was not a candidate for
IM nail because there was no good bone to drive the nail into at distal end (end nearest foot)
6/29/13 - began pt. The gal applying the electro stimulator couldn't get a response to she cranked up the power and left.
5 minutes later I called her back in and suggested she take a look, as smoke had begun to curl from the pads
attached to my ankle. "Oh sorry". apparently tight jeans and big honkers superseded actually technical skills
there
discontinued pt
Over the next 7 months the doc had me progress from putting 25% of full body weight on the broken leg, to 50% to 75%. During that time I sheared the head off every screw attaching the tibial plate.
Fracture was still non-union
2/20/14 - still on crutches
surgery to remove tibial plate and broken screws, then install IM nail (rod rammed down the inside of the tibia).
bone graft taken from tibia, pelvis and cadaver, and applied to areas of non-union.
4/20/14 - Still on crutches
some union detected, however most graft material has been absorbed, without bone deposition in that area
(largest defect).
5/25/14 - MRI showed continuous bone around about 200 degrees of cross section only, but with the IM nail secure at
both ends, doc allowed me to load it with 100% of full body weight only as tolerated.
6/11/14 - I'm walking on it a bit, the soft tissues (tendons, ligaments, and muscles) bitch at me about it every day after
having a year off....
I'm expecting no riding until at least 2015, if ever.
My dear wife has waited on me hand and foot for over a year. I'm just not sure I can put her thru this crap again, so I'm not sure I will ride again even if able
Bottom line
tib fib fractures are a bitch to recover from sometimes.
Poor blood flow in the lower part of the leg results in slow healing under the best of conditions.
At worst, you can lose part or all of your leg.
I had no idea at the time of my injury they could be so difficult, figuring I'd drive myself home from the ER, and in a couple months I'd be all healed up. Had I sucked it up and driven the 2 hours home, I'd have lost the foot.
A year later, still not anywhere near 100%.
While recuperating, I was watching something called adaptive X Games.
Not ever hearing of it before, I was amazed at how skilled those guys were, and decided to look into the nature of their injuries/handicaps.
As it turns out, Compartment Syndrome was not unusual, and sometimes resulted in losing all or part of a limb.
I'd never heard of Compartment Syndrome before my own injury. It's some serious stuff all of us need to be aware of.
" WebMD explains compartment syndrome, a potentially life threatening condition in which pressure builds up in the legs, abdomen or arms, damaging tissue."
If you have a tib/fib break, make sure to ask about it while in the ER and before they let you leave.
Here is a shot video on Compartment Syndrome and it's remedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROwOMBtMbXo
and here is a short video showing tibia repair using IM nail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=006h2tbynwo
I swear I have all the tools to do this one in my own garage.....
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