Congrats to Seb. Pourcel!

9/29/2008 12:00am
And don't forget that without Boissière's flat tyre in the second heat, team France could have won today !!!
Ozy wrote:
Congrats to Pourcel And don't forget that if RV and James didn't crash, TEAM USA would have totally embarrassed the rest of the world Sorry but...
Congrats to Pourcel

And don't forget that if RV and James didn't crash, TEAM USA would have totally embarrassed the rest of the world




Sorry but your speculative statement about France winning deserves this respons
Your answer just shows that you haven't really look at the race yesterday, especially the second heat when Boissière was in second position (!!!) before struggling with his flat tyre at the end of the race (he finally finished 18th).

Nothing else to say.
9/29/2008 12:02am
And today, for the first time in french MX history, Seb Pourcel has won the MXoN individual overall (2/1) .

Congrats!
I forgot that Tortelli did the same at St Jean in 2000.

Sorry.
9/29/2008 12:03am
Xavier wrote:
There is a difference between a crash and a flat tire ! Although the rider can be responsible for a flat too, this is usually considered...
There is a difference between a crash and a flat tire !
Although the rider can be responsible for a flat too, this is usually considered as bad luck while a crash is always somewhat of a mistake - unless a dear crosses the track but only Albee can invoque that LOL...

Did anyone notice the Pourcel Bros are the 2 fastest MX bros ever ??!!

Back to Team France, second for the second time in a row, yet nobody (that includes DC and RD) even MENTIONNED France as a potential podium team !! It is to be noted also that Boissière was a "B" choice after Frossard got hurt (but he rode great) !
Thanks Dirt.

Wink
9/29/2008 12:04am
SMITH201 wrote:
How far behind was Pourcel in the first moto, an how far back was Pourcel when James went down in the 3rd moto? Pourcel rode well...
How far behind was Pourcel in the first moto, an how far back was Pourcel when James went down in the 3rd moto?

Pourcel rode well, but he cant even keep the pace RV was runnin on his 250F. RV smoked his best lap time on lap 16 in moto 1.

Overall I have to say I am disappointed in the GP champs. Neither was even close to the pace of the leaders and Reed was the weakest link on the AUS team, WTF?
You're not really serious, aren't you ???

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9/29/2008 12:05am
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I say that with the utmost respect for DV, a great rider!
OK.
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And don't forget that without Boissière's flat tyre in the second heat, team France could have won today !!!
Ozy wrote:
Congrats to Pourcel And don't forget that if RV and James didn't crash, TEAM USA would have totally embarrassed the rest of the world Sorry but...
Congrats to Pourcel

And don't forget that if RV and James didn't crash, TEAM USA would have totally embarrassed the rest of the world




Sorry but your speculative statement about France winning deserves this respons
Your answer just shows that you haven't really look at the race yesterday, especially the second heat when Boissière was in second position (!!!) before struggling...
Your answer just shows that you haven't really look at the race yesterday, especially the second heat when Boissière was in second position (!!!) before struggling with his flat tyre at the end of the race (he finally finished 18th).

Nothing else to say.
And the main difference here is "human rider" against a mechanical.

Anyway this all "if" stuff I'm stoked on Pourcel winning his Category and on team France to get second!!! The MXDN is just something different to any race so unpredictable!
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9/29/2008 4:40am
SMITH201 wrote:
How far behind was Pourcel in the first moto, an how far back was Pourcel when James went down in the 3rd moto? Pourcel rode well...
How far behind was Pourcel in the first moto, an how far back was Pourcel when James went down in the 3rd moto?

Pourcel rode well, but he cant even keep the pace RV was runnin on his 250F. RV smoked his best lap time on lap 16 in moto 1.

Overall I have to say I am disappointed in the GP champs. Neither was even close to the pace of the leaders and Reed was the weakest link on the AUS team, WTF?
You're not really serious, aren't you ???
Dead serious

Its a fact that the top GP riders could not match the pace of RV and James. Yeah they may have had a few good laps, but you gotta be able to do that the entire race from start to finish. Thier lap times were waay off the 2nd half of each race compared to ours. I not saying the GP riders arent fast, im just saying they cant do it for an entire moto.
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SMITH201 wrote:
How far behind was Pourcel in the first moto, an how far back was Pourcel when James went down in the 3rd moto? Pourcel rode well...
How far behind was Pourcel in the first moto, an how far back was Pourcel when James went down in the 3rd moto?

Pourcel rode well, but he cant even keep the pace RV was runnin on his 250F. RV smoked his best lap time on lap 16 in moto 1.

Overall I have to say I am disappointed in the GP champs. Neither was even close to the pace of the leaders and Reed was the weakest link on the AUS team, WTF?
You're not really serious, aren't you ???
SMITH201 wrote:
Dead serious Its a fact that the top GP riders could not match the pace of RV and James. Yeah they may have had a few...
Dead serious

Its a fact that the top GP riders could not match the pace of RV and James. Yeah they may have had a few good laps, but you gotta be able to do that the entire race from start to finish. Thier lap times were waay off the 2nd half of each race compared to ours. I not saying the GP riders arent fast, im just saying they cant do it for an entire moto.
Good to hear that now at least we can all say that the Euros are not some crappy third world riders that won't even be near as fast as JS or RV. they proved they can be fast as well. Now there is the question of being fast for 30 min but that's another story....

I don't think anyone expected a GP rider to beat fair and square RV or JS. But at least we were hoping that they could show them they had some speed over here as well and it wasn't going to be a walk in the park as predicted.
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9/29/2008 5:50am Edited Date/Time 9/29/2008 5:53am
You're not really serious, aren't you ???
SMITH201 wrote:
Dead serious Its a fact that the top GP riders could not match the pace of RV and James. Yeah they may have had a few...
Dead serious

Its a fact that the top GP riders could not match the pace of RV and James. Yeah they may have had a few good laps, but you gotta be able to do that the entire race from start to finish. Thier lap times were waay off the 2nd half of each race compared to ours. I not saying the GP riders arent fast, im just saying they cant do it for an entire moto.
jo2910 wrote:
Good to hear that now at least we can all say that the Euros are not some crappy third world riders that won't even be near...
Good to hear that now at least we can all say that the Euros are not some crappy third world riders that won't even be near as fast as JS or RV. they proved they can be fast as well. Now there is the question of being fast for 30 min but that's another story....

I don't think anyone expected a GP rider to beat fair and square RV or JS. But at least we were hoping that they could show them they had some speed over here as well and it wasn't going to be a walk in the park as predicted.
Oh absolutely! You guys were out of your element here at Budds Creek last year and it showed, as it did this year with us in GB. I dont know if GP riders use trainers, but if they dont they should. Also, they need to take note of what happens to every GP rider that comes over here for a season or 1 off race. They always say how they are surprised at how aggressive/fast we are from the drop of the gate. Stop being suprised all the time, when the gate drops, hammer down! If they used that mentality over your way the GPs and MXoN races would be even better. GPs need to do some track editing over there as well. You guys got some weird track designs and track maintenance needs to be upgraded. When the GP officials came over for the Budds Creek National during the season for a dry run for the MXoN, they ruined the track. Budds is my home track, and it was the worst I have ever seen it. Thank God they let us prep it better for the MXoN last year.
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What's wierd about GP track design?
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crowe176 wrote:
What's wierd about GP track design?
Some of the types of jumps that are placed in random area, especially the single jumps.

Not only that, but who the F in thier right mind would do this?
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I've never been to a GP, so I don't know. How many have you been to?
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9/29/2008 7:13am
crowe176 wrote:
What's wierd about GP track design?
SMITH201 wrote:
Some of the types of jumps that are placed in random area, especially the single jumps. Not only that, but who the F in thier right...
Some of the types of jumps that are placed in random area, especially the single jumps.

Not only that, but who the F in thier right mind would do this?
Fugger lost about 3 seconds thereWoohoo
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9/29/2008 11:10am
SMITH201 wrote:
Dead serious Its a fact that the top GP riders could not match the pace of RV and James. Yeah they may have had a few...
Dead serious

Its a fact that the top GP riders could not match the pace of RV and James. Yeah they may have had a few good laps, but you gotta be able to do that the entire race from start to finish. Thier lap times were waay off the 2nd half of each race compared to ours. I not saying the GP riders arent fast, im just saying they cant do it for an entire moto.
jo2910 wrote:
Good to hear that now at least we can all say that the Euros are not some crappy third world riders that won't even be near...
Good to hear that now at least we can all say that the Euros are not some crappy third world riders that won't even be near as fast as JS or RV. they proved they can be fast as well. Now there is the question of being fast for 30 min but that's another story....

I don't think anyone expected a GP rider to beat fair and square RV or JS. But at least we were hoping that they could show them they had some speed over here as well and it wasn't going to be a walk in the park as predicted.
SMITH201 wrote:
Oh absolutely! You guys were out of your element here at Budds Creek last year and it showed, as it did this year with us in...
Oh absolutely! You guys were out of your element here at Budds Creek last year and it showed, as it did this year with us in GB. I dont know if GP riders use trainers, but if they dont they should. Also, they need to take note of what happens to every GP rider that comes over here for a season or 1 off race. They always say how they are surprised at how aggressive/fast we are from the drop of the gate. Stop being suprised all the time, when the gate drops, hammer down! If they used that mentality over your way the GPs and MXoN races would be even better. GPs need to do some track editing over there as well. You guys got some weird track designs and track maintenance needs to be upgraded. When the GP officials came over for the Budds Creek National during the season for a dry run for the MXoN, they ruined the track. Budds is my home track, and it was the worst I have ever seen it. Thank God they let us prep it better for the MXoN last year.
But GP followers would argue that you guys grade your circuits too much. For us the way the track ruts up and develops new and tricky sections is part and parcel of Motocross.

We're of the opinion that the tracks should be rugged and difficult, not groomed into perfectly soft, powdery soil between each race.

Its just a difference in track prep, neither one is neccesarily the 'correct' way (although Im sure someone will argue that ) - we probably stick to a more traditional style whereas you guys take a more modern approach.
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I think you'll find that the National was done by American's and the MXdN was a collaboration of AMA/FIM... can you imagine someone from FIM trying to tell an AMA guy how to run their tracks at their rounds?!?

and exactly how many GPs have you been to/watched for this sweeping statement about the tracks?
A lot of people on here did say before the race that Donington wasn't exactly traditional, and that we weren't happy about it... but it actually provided some really good racing and i'm soooooooooo glad they left it rough

too much track grooming is done these days imho.
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let's face no-one on either side of the pond can hang with Stewart for an entire moto.... whether your name is Ferry, Pourcel, Short, Philippaerts, Alessi, de Dycker, Byrne, Leok, Cooper, Nagl, Reed, Coppins

i'm just glad they actually raced well this year
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track grooming on race day should be banned ! let the riders adapt to all the different changes in each line, i wanna see riders going across the toughest terrain not tracks what u can play snooker on !

if it was up to me i would of had the des nations at a track like lierop of lommel
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Blah, Blah, Blah. That track not only was designed bad, but WTF was that shit with the tree branches, rebar, and doorknobs mixed in with the dirt? They actually disced it up pretty deep to mix all that crap in. Should have done it with just the dirt. None the less though, the track was shitty.
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nothing wrong with that track whatsoever, obviously i havent rode it but it looks so much fun to ride and viewing is pretty damn good
9/29/2008 3:43pm
SMITH201 wrote:
Dead serious Its a fact that the top GP riders could not match the pace of RV and James. Yeah they may have had a few...
Dead serious

Its a fact that the top GP riders could not match the pace of RV and James. Yeah they may have had a few good laps, but you gotta be able to do that the entire race from start to finish. Thier lap times were waay off the 2nd half of each race compared to ours. I not saying the GP riders arent fast, im just saying they cant do it for an entire moto.
Strange... You don't say anything about Ferry's pace...
9/29/2008 3:44pm
SMITH201 wrote:
Oh absolutely! You guys were out of your element here at Budds Creek last year and it showed, as it did this year with us in...
Oh absolutely! You guys were out of your element here at Budds Creek last year and it showed, as it did this year with us in GB. I dont know if GP riders use trainers, but if they dont they should. Also, they need to take note of what happens to every GP rider that comes over here for a season or 1 off race. They always say how they are surprised at how aggressive/fast we are from the drop of the gate. Stop being suprised all the time, when the gate drops, hammer down! If they used that mentality over your way the GPs and MXoN races would be even better. GPs need to do some track editing over there as well. You guys got some weird track designs and track maintenance needs to be upgraded. When the GP officials came over for the Budds Creek National during the season for a dry run for the MXoN, they ruined the track. Budds is my home track, and it was the worst I have ever seen it. Thank God they let us prep it better for the MXoN last year.
You're so right... European MX sucks...

Evil Evil Evil
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this is retarded.Seriously, pourcel faster than bubba? One moto win after bubba cant restart his bike and now we got every "know it all" running there mouths. Yea hes fast, but honestly STFU! We all know the truth.
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Poor bubbles cant win with the forum dummies.
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Pourcel rode consistent and aggressive and it payed off for him (that is what racers do).

He did what he needed to do get his team up on the podium.

His OA score for the day was better then James....you cant argue with that (they both left the gate at the same time).

Bottom line.....the kid put in a some great rides and did what he needed to do, to get a 2-1 overall in his class.

How can someone not respect that?
9/29/2008 8:57pm
OldNstupid your a real ass clown .
Just sayin Smile
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9/29/2008 9:07pm
Xavier wrote:
There is a difference between a crash and a flat tire ! Although the rider can be responsible for a flat too, this is usually considered...
There is a difference between a crash and a flat tire !
Although the rider can be responsible for a flat too, this is usually considered as bad luck while a crash is always somewhat of a mistake - unless a dear crosses the track but only Albee can invoque that LOL...

Did anyone notice the Pourcel Bros are the 2 fastest MX bros ever ??!!

Back to Team France, second for the second time in a row, yet nobody (that includes DC and RD) even MENTIONNED France as a potential podium team !! It is to be noted also that Boissière was a "B" choice after Frossard got hurt (but he rode great) !
Thanks Dirt.

Wink
Or you are taken out from behind.

What ifs, is all you have. The two fastest and best riders there had horrible luck, and we still won. Get over yourself and admit that nobody had anything for the americans.
9/29/2008 9:21pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:38pm
If I would play the lotto I might win..
If I took exlax id probably have to take a dump
if I put a peice of ghost shrimp on my hook I might catch a sturgeon
If or if?
You lost when the USA team had bad luck lol Got smoked at Budds creek last year got smoked there this year .. What ya gonna say..
oh I know "IF"
I got an "if" for ya.. If bubba didnt wash out he would of won by 20 sec like he did in the first moto. The difference between an intermediate and a pro is running the distance the whole race. Lap times show he had nothing after he shot his load doing everything he could to run his pace. Bubba pulled away riding his own race and had a small mishap.
Team X got owned
Team USA won.... again
9/29/2008 9:25pm
SMITH201 wrote:
Dead serious Its a fact that the top GP riders could not match the pace of RV and James. Yeah they may have had a few...
Dead serious

Its a fact that the top GP riders could not match the pace of RV and James. Yeah they may have had a few good laps, but you gotta be able to do that the entire race from start to finish. Thier lap times were waay off the 2nd half of each race compared to ours. I not saying the GP riders arent fast, im just saying they cant do it for an entire moto.
Strange... You don't say anything about Ferry's pace...
If RV's pace was so fast, why could he only manage a 10th in the first moto? surely he is so fast that after a small fall, he could come through the pack and finish 2nd to Bubba??

9/29/2008 11:07pm
Another def dumb and blind euro talking about politics and financial parts of the USA when all they have is the news.. Its like War, do you think you know whats going on in reality over there? No u dont u dont know dick just like u dont know dick about America. Ur stuck in a place that women dont shave there under arms and chew tobbaco with jagged green teeth id be a miserable pile of stink like you too.
Thanks for shopping come again
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Another def dumb and blind euro talking about politics and financial parts of the USA when all they have is the news.. Its like War, do...
Another def dumb and blind euro talking about politics and financial parts of the USA when all they have is the news.. Its like War, do you think you know whats going on in reality over there? No u dont u dont know dick just like u dont know dick about America. Ur stuck in a place that women dont shave there under arms and chew tobbaco with jagged green teeth id be a miserable pile of stink like you too.
Thanks for shopping come again
LOL Smile
If America is so bad , then why is he wasting his entire night on a AMERICAN MX MESSAGE BOARD?

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