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hey, I'm a fuggin' guitarist... Got David's part down to a tee... Wink

Does someone need to pass the hat for the med crew? I'm in.
How you doing with comfortably numb. Best solo of all time.

Back on topic. The Caselli foundation was very cool. Hopefully this thing will work its way out.
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GuyB wrote:
...was Doc Bodnar telling everyone at the rider's meeting that they have only have budget to attend maybe the first three rounds of the outdoor series...
...was Doc Bodnar telling everyone at the rider's meeting that they have only have budget to attend maybe the first three rounds of the outdoor series this year, and putting out a call asking for donations from around the industry.
So was he asking for donations from the riders?
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StartedTooLate wrote:
From the Asterisk MMU site: [b]The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center is an emergency care facility available at each AMA professional Outdoor Motocross and Supercross event to...
From the Asterisk MMU site:

The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center is an emergency care facility available at each AMA professional Outdoor Motocross and Supercross event to staff, participants, and crew at no cost. The full 53 foot hospital trailer is staffed with qualified, experienced medical personnel and offers specialized equipment for our sport’s unique injuries. The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center is provided to the racing community by Asterisk. Our operating budget is made possible by Feld Motorsports, MX Sports Pro Racing, AMA Racing, Road 2 Recovery Foundation, Joe Gibbs Racing MX Team, and Pro Circuit, as well as individual riders and private donors.
Graybeard wrote:
Perfect post--lets you know where they get their funding. But before I could fault anyone of the contribution side, I would also like to know the...
Perfect post--lets you know where they get their funding. But before I could fault anyone of the contribution side, I would also like to know the expenditure side for AMMC and how it is trending.
Thank you, Graybeard. Sounds like this is a mess that jumping to conclusions isn't going to help. Reading the funding element, seems to be that AMMC may be missing revenue from the billing for services side of things. Now, I am not proposing that riders should be billed, however, with the entire Health Insurance fiasco going on, there may be an additional source of revenue available.
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GuyB wrote:
...was Doc Bodnar telling everyone at the rider's meeting that they have only have budget to attend maybe the first three rounds of the outdoor series...
...was Doc Bodnar telling everyone at the rider's meeting that they have only have budget to attend maybe the first three rounds of the outdoor series this year, and putting out a call asking for donations from around the industry.
189sydney wrote:
So was he asking for donations from the riders?
Yes.

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A lot of you guys always hate on JLaw and talk a bunch of shit but he always contributed to The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center. Let's...
A lot of you guys always hate on JLaw and talk a bunch of shit but he always contributed to The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center.

Let's see what rider does now.

Even though I don't think it is their place to fully support it.
Socket946 wrote:
He also openly got into physical fights, got arrested, and does a ton of dope. But hey, he donated money to the medical unit, what a...
He also openly got into physical fights, got arrested, and does a ton of dope.

But hey, he donated money to the medical unit, what a saint.
May not be a saint but he seems to be a decent human being that doesn't deserve to be shit on every chance.
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Tfs was right about a lot more things than most people gave him credit for, he at least gave an honest unbiased opinion on what was...
Tfs was right about a lot more things than most people gave him credit for, he at least gave an honest unbiased opinion on what was going on because he didn't need the hand that feeds most people in this small sport
Yeah, he was spot on about Luongo being the best thing that could happen to motocross : \
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people wonder why vital can go all vitard on certain topics. well, what do you expect when supposed people "in the know" always pop up and...
people wonder why vital can go all vitard on certain topics.

well, what do you expect when supposed people "in the know" always pop up and only drop cryptic comments about what is actually going on behind the scenes and then refuse to provide any actual details, leaving everyone to guess what it is.

you can't have it both ways.

and I AM NOT pointing at GUYB here..
That's one of my big complaints, too
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StartedTooLate wrote:
From the Asterisk MMU site: [b]The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center is an emergency care facility available at each AMA professional Outdoor Motocross and Supercross event to...
From the Asterisk MMU site:

The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center is an emergency care facility available at each AMA professional Outdoor Motocross and Supercross event to staff, participants, and crew at no cost. The full 53 foot hospital trailer is staffed with qualified, experienced medical personnel and offers specialized equipment for our sport’s unique injuries. The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center is provided to the racing community by Asterisk. Our operating budget is made possible by Feld Motorsports, MX Sports Pro Racing, AMA Racing, Road 2 Recovery Foundation, Joe Gibbs Racing MX Team, and Pro Circuit, as well as individual riders and private donors.
So JGR and PC contribute, yet there is no mention of Team Honda, Team Kawasaki, Team Suzuki, or Team KTM. Hmmm
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Each team should have to pay a levy to the Asterisk rig, for each event they attend. It is after all the riders and teams who need it. The promoters can kick in 20% so that they're consciences are clear and they're doing the right thing.

Factory teams have one scaling, privateer teams another.

Done.

Formula? Asterisk costs = x

x / number of rounds in a year ( 17 + 12 + 1 = 30)

x/30 = per round cost. $PRC

Divide that by the amount of teams with a 60% factory teams, 20% on the rest and 20% promoter
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Englishman I say again, what is the "rumor?"
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oshow wrote:
A lot of you guys always hate on JLaw and talk a bunch of shit but he always contributed to The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center. Let's...
A lot of you guys always hate on JLaw and talk a bunch of shit but he always contributed to The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center.

Let's see what rider does now.

Even though I don't think it is their place to fully support it.
Socket946 wrote:
He also openly got into physical fights, got arrested, and does a ton of dope. But hey, he donated money to the medical unit, what a...
He also openly got into physical fights, got arrested, and does a ton of dope.

But hey, he donated money to the medical unit, what a saint.
Hut wrote:
May not be a saint but he seems to be a decent human being that doesn't deserve to be shit on every chance.
Couldn't agree more Hut. Donating to the medical unit, Magoo's van and supporting other riders out of his own pocket are a big deal. Sure he was/is no saint but he put his own money up to help others.

Jeff Emig got arrested on drug related charges & booted from Kawasaki, Ryan Hughes got into a fist fight recently, DV even got slap happy with another rider but no one seems to feel the need to constantly put the boots into them about the past.
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"One of the bigger topics of the weekend..."

Going backwards (aka YAMAHA)Wink
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newb wrote:
I paid $50 to get in to watch the race yesterday. Another $10 to park. $12 for a hot dog and drink. I made my contribution.
davistld01 wrote:
"I made my contribution." Really? Pinch

Move along.
I agree with him. The guy spent $72 for the day to watch the races and you discredit him? I wonder how many other people spent $72 or more? That adds up fast. Where does all that money go?
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newb wrote:
I paid $50 to get in to watch the race yesterday. Another $10 to park. $12 for a hot dog and drink. I made my contribution.
davistld01 wrote:
"I made my contribution." Really? Pinch

Move along.
Seems like he is doing his part. Who are you to tell him to move along?
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So they want the riders that put on the show to donate to the medic crew? This expense should rest on the shoulders of the MXSports (& Feld for SX) and the AMA proracing
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newb wrote:
I paid $50 to get in to watch the race yesterday. Another $10 to park. $12 for a hot dog and drink. I made my contribution.
RonSkj wrote:
You got off cheap! I added a pit pass $20 parking and a bunch of $9 beers.
Glen Helen cost me about $2K and Some serious wear on my Katoom. I'd do it all over again in a heart-beat. I'm gonna throw a few bucks in the direction of Asterisk. I'm grateful for what they do and the care they give.

I'm jus' sayin'...
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GuyB wrote:
...was Doc Bodnar telling everyone at the rider's meeting that they have only have budget to attend maybe the first three rounds of the outdoor series...
...was Doc Bodnar telling everyone at the rider's meeting that they have only have budget to attend maybe the first three rounds of the outdoor series this year, and putting out a call asking for donations from around the industry.
BobbyM wrote:
As one of the bigger sports journalists covering the sport this type of topic is what guys like you should be looking into..."what happend and why...
As one of the bigger sports journalists covering the sport this type of topic is what guys like you should be looking into..."what happend and why and when"...shit like that. So get on it sonnyboy.
Well you did see how "THEY" treated TFS for investigating and speaking Out. The rest is Scared.
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newb wrote:
I paid $50 to get in to watch the race yesterday. Another $10 to park. $12 for a hot dog and drink. I made my contribution.
davistld01 wrote:
"I made my contribution." Really? Pinch

Move along.
jleews6 wrote:
I agree with him. The guy spent $72 for the day to watch the races and you discredit him? I wonder how many other people spent...
I agree with him. The guy spent $72 for the day to watch the races and you discredit him? I wonder how many other people spent $72 or more? That adds up fast. Where does all that money go?
x2 ....Any paying attendee of the event is a contributor.

Eventually the fan is going to pay for this anyway.

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yak651 wrote:
So they want the riders that put on the show to donate to the medic crew? This expense should rest on the shoulders of the MXSports...
So they want the riders that put on the show to donate to the medic crew? This expense should rest on the shoulders of the MXSports (& Feld for SX) and the AMA proracing
So they want the riders who pay entry fees, that put on the show that people pay to see, to donate to the medical crew? There, fixed it for you.
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Socket946 wrote:
He also openly got into physical fights, got arrested, and does a ton of dope. But hey, he donated money to the medical unit, what a...
He also openly got into physical fights, got arrested, and does a ton of dope.

But hey, he donated money to the medical unit, what a saint.
Sounds like a 90's moto star, haha
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newb wrote:
I paid $50 to get in to watch the race yesterday. Another $10 to park. $12 for a hot dog and drink. I made my contribution.
davistld01 wrote:
"I made my contribution." Really? Pinch

Move along.
Hut wrote:
Seems like he is doing his part. Who are you to tell him to move along?
It's the cost of any large event...not like he went out of his way to "make his contribution". It's like eating at a nicer restaraunt than McDonalds, and paying $50-100 for two...then not tipping the waiter because you've "made your contribution". I'm not saying the fan needs to ante up...but the poster made it sound like he had gone out of his way to do his part. He'll, he'd pay the same at a freaking tractor pull!

And who are you to criticize anything I post?
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davistld01 wrote:
"I made my contribution." Really? Pinch

Move along.
Hut wrote:
Seems like he is doing his part. Who are you to tell him to move along?
davistld01 wrote:
It's the cost of any large event...not like he went out of his way to "make his contribution". It's like eating at a nicer restaraunt than...
It's the cost of any large event...not like he went out of his way to "make his contribution". It's like eating at a nicer restaraunt than McDonalds, and paying $50-100 for two...then not tipping the waiter because you've "made your contribution". I'm not saying the fan needs to ante up...but the poster made it sound like he had gone out of his way to do his part. He'll, he'd pay the same at a freaking tractor pull!

And who are you to criticize anything I post?
I didn't take his post that way. I took it to mean he showed up and paid a fair price.
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Hut wrote:
Seems like he is doing his part. Who are you to tell him to move along?
davistld01 wrote:
It's the cost of any large event...not like he went out of his way to "make his contribution". It's like eating at a nicer restaraunt than...
It's the cost of any large event...not like he went out of his way to "make his contribution". It's like eating at a nicer restaraunt than McDonalds, and paying $50-100 for two...then not tipping the waiter because you've "made your contribution". I'm not saying the fan needs to ante up...but the poster made it sound like he had gone out of his way to do his part. He'll, he'd pay the same at a freaking tractor pull!

And who are you to criticize anything I post?
Hut wrote:
I didn't take his post that way. I took it to mean he showed up and paid a fair price.
Like everybody else did.

I didn't read in GuyB's post that Asterisk was asking any fans for contributions or handouts.
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If asterisk is not there how is the baseline concussion test going to be administered?
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oshow wrote:
A lot of you guys always hate on JLaw and talk a bunch of shit but he always contributed to The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center. Let's...
A lot of you guys always hate on JLaw and talk a bunch of shit but he always contributed to The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center.

Let's see what rider does now.

Even though I don't think it is their place to fully support it.
Socket946 wrote:
He also openly got into physical fights, got arrested, and does a ton of dope. But hey, he donated money to the medical unit, what a...
He also openly got into physical fights, got arrested, and does a ton of dope.

But hey, he donated money to the medical unit, what a saint.
Typical hater, want to bring up past mistakes.

Have you ever made a mistake Mr Saint?
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Crush wrote:
Each team should have to pay a levy to the Asterisk rig, for each event they attend. It is after all the riders and teams who...
Each team should have to pay a levy to the Asterisk rig, for each event they attend. It is after all the riders and teams who need it. The promoters can kick in 20% so that they're consciences are clear and they're doing the right thing.

Factory teams have one scaling, privateer teams another.

Done.

Formula? Asterisk costs = x

x / number of rounds in a year ( 17 + 12 + 1 = 30)

x/30 = per round cost. $PRC

Divide that by the amount of teams with a 60% factory teams, 20% on the rest and 20% promoter
100% agreed. It's called "protecting your investment".
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oshow wrote:
A lot of you guys always hate on JLaw and talk a bunch of shit but he always contributed to The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center. Let's...
A lot of you guys always hate on JLaw and talk a bunch of shit but he always contributed to The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center.

Let's see what rider does now.

Even though I don't think it is their place to fully support it.
Socket946 wrote:
He also openly got into physical fights, got arrested, and does a ton of dope. But hey, he donated money to the medical unit, what a...
He also openly got into physical fights, got arrested, and does a ton of dope.

But hey, he donated money to the medical unit, what a saint.
Hut wrote:
May not be a saint but he seems to be a decent human being that doesn't deserve to be shit on every chance.
Exactly. Actually a pretty good dude.

Hell who didn't like to have fun as a kid.

Did he take it to far ..... maybe./ Yes in some instances
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oshow wrote:
A lot of you guys always hate on JLaw and talk a bunch of shit but he always contributed to The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center. Let's...
A lot of you guys always hate on JLaw and talk a bunch of shit but he always contributed to The Asterisk Mobile Medical Center.

Let's see what rider does now.

Even though I don't think it is their place to fully support it.
Socket946 wrote:
He also openly got into physical fights, got arrested, and does a ton of dope. But hey, he donated money to the medical unit, what a...
He also openly got into physical fights, got arrested, and does a ton of dope.

But hey, he donated money to the medical unit, what a saint.
Hut wrote:
May not be a saint but he seems to be a decent human being that doesn't deserve to be shit on every chance.
Very true. I'll be the first to say that I don't condone the drug use whatsoever. After seeing numerous family and friends die as the result of drug abuse, I have a zero tolerance personal policy and have Lways steered clear of that shit. That being said, I'm sure glad I wasn't in the public eye during my late teens and early 20's. Let's just say I've made my fair share of questionable decisions and am in no position to cast a stone.
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So, this is lifted from the Asterik website...I thought I would read up on this since nothing of substance has really come out of this thread. Maybe some auction items from those that have used the Asterik services in the past should be suggested???

From Asterik...http://asterisksuperpass.com/about/
Donations


PRODUCTS – SERVICES – FUND RAISING

We are always looking for help in finding extra dollars. We always have our eye on a new diagnostic tool that will advance our knowledge and lead to an innovation in safety and injury prevention. Help us if you can with your fund raising ideas, participate in our auctions, or give to your favorite SX/MX charity organization designating those funds to the Asterisk Mobile Medical Center.

If you have questions or suggestions please contact Tom Carson at the races or Joanne Pryor at this website.
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Each team should have to pay a levy to the Asterisk rig, for each event they attend. It is after all the riders and teams who...
Each team should have to pay a levy to the Asterisk rig, for each event they attend. It is after all the riders and teams who need it. The promoters can kick in 20% so that they're consciences are clear and they're doing the right thing.

Factory teams have one scaling, privateer teams another.

Done.

Formula? Asterisk costs = x

x / number of rounds in a year ( 17 + 12 + 1 = 30)

x/30 = per round cost. $PRC

Divide that by the amount of teams with a 60% factory teams, 20% on the rest and 20% promoter
davistld01 wrote:
100% agreed. It's called "protecting your investment".
It's actually concerning that this isn't already covered?

Who's been funding it up until now? Hope Asterisk themselves haven't covered it. Sheesh

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