you better be a badass on a bike if you want to go to lorettas from the NW (and it doesn't hurt to have deep pockets)

Ken G
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Edited Date/Time 3/31/2014 10:13pm
First of all, I know it’s impossible to make everyone happy but I still feel compelled to voice my opinion on the Northwest regional and Loretta Lynn National qualification. We are all aware of the cost of motocross alone, then when you throw in travel expenses things get crazy. Traveling to Loretta’s alone is a major undertaking for us living in the Northwest and when it’s coupled with huge drives to attend our own Northwest regional it’s too much of a financial burden for most.

NORTHWEST AREA QUALIFIER *
DATE TRACK / WEBSITE LOCATION PHONE
March 8 & 9 Hollister Hills Hollister Hills, CA
March 22 & 23 Horn Rapids MX Richland, WA
April 26 & 27 Porterville OHV Park Porterville, CA
May 10** Washougal Washougal, WA
May 17 & 18 Oatfield Raceway Turlock, CA (Dual qualifier for NW and SW regional)
NORTHWEST REGIONAL
June 7 & 8 Prairie City OHV - Youth/Amateur Rancho Cordova, CA

I posted the schedule to show that the Northwest region caters to California and puts Northwest riders at a disadvantage financially and competitively. A dual qualifier is available in California then the Northwest Regional is hosted in California! Guess who gets the short end of the stick all the Northwest kids and their parents wallets! The Northwest kids suffer a competitive disadvantage; they have to travel really far to compete on a track they rarely if ever ride for their home regional. The Southwest regional is at a track people have access to year around that’s a lot closer in proximity to most Southwest regional riders. I suggest since a dual qualifier is available the Northwest regional should be in the Northwest (Washougal, Horn Rapids, or Idaho somewhere) there is no reason California riders should be given such an advantage competitively or financially. Look at the numbers below it’s clearly unfair to Northwest kids and families. I sincerely hope this provokes some thought and discussion; I thank you for your time and support of MX a sport we love! I just want to keep things in reach for the middle class.

623 mi, 9 hours 28 mins Washougal Wa to Hangtown Northwest Regional (northwest disadvantage)
390 mi, 5 hours 42 mins Los Angeles to Hangtown Northwest Regional (southwest advantage)
298 mi, 4 hours 27 mins Los Angeles to Dual Qualifier (southwest advantage)
690 mi, 10 hours 28 mins Washougal WA to Dual qualifier (northwest disadvantage)
1,024 mi, 15 hours 18 mins Washougal Wa to SW Regional (northwest disadvantage)
73.0 mi, 1 hour 13 mins Los Angles to SW Regional (southwest advantage)
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slipdog
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3/31/2014 5:05pm
When I went in the early '90's we had nothing in NorCal. We had to drive to SoCal for the Southwest area and regionals or we had to drive to the Northwest(Clarksbranch//Washougal) for area and regionals...

Your turn.
3/31/2014 5:05pm Edited Date/Time 3/31/2014 5:07pm
Racing is not now or ever been a poor mans sport.If you cant beat the Cal riders at the qualifier , you wont beat them at LLs either. life is so unfair.
MXVet261
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3/31/2014 5:09pm Edited Date/Time 3/31/2014 5:14pm
So what about 2013 and 2011 when the Regional was at Washougal, WA?
You're saying you want it in Washington every single year? I think you're pretty lucky there having it at Washougal what seems like every other year.

We haven't had an Amateur Regional in Ohio since 2007.
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3/31/2014 5:12pm
Well the washougal is usually rained out. Which means you get to do a whole lap and a half in the infield on grass with cones as corners. Now that sucks no matter how far or near. Talk about cost per lap!

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Ken G
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3/31/2014 5:13pm Edited Date/Time 3/31/2014 5:27pm
Saying the NW regional should be in the NW not central CA with a bunch of qualifiers in central CA including a dual qualifier in central CA. I feel for the people in ID and Montana who drive even further. No excuses though you have whoop ass to make it to Loretta's from the NW. Bottom line the dual qualifier is BS.
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3/31/2014 5:16pm Edited Date/Time 3/31/2014 5:16pm
Ahhh....not sure what to say about the dual qualifier stuff.
sharkey
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3/31/2014 5:39pm Edited Date/Time 3/31/2014 5:42pm
MXVet261 wrote:
So what about 2013 and 2011 when the Regional was at Washougal, WA? You're saying you want it in Washington every single year? I think you're...
So what about 2013 and 2011 when the Regional was at Washougal, WA?
You're saying you want it in Washington every single year? I think you're pretty lucky there having it at Washougal what seems like every other year.

We haven't had an Amateur Regional in Ohio since 2007.
what he is saying is its BULLSHIT the nw regional is in California when the Sw regional is in cali too. theres nothing NW about having both regionals in California. fortunately for me we don't even try because the age for my kid we have 3-4 kids in our area that are in the top 15 at lorettas each year or better in his class so theres no chance of him making it.i do feel sorry for the guys who do want to try though
hillbilly
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3/31/2014 6:23pm
To run a dual regional ,38ish classes,3 motos,in one weekend,

3 lap motos

It used to be 15 min,3 times,18 classes

And,at the regional I've seen 65 riders show up for one class,run a guali moto in the morning where they take 18,

Then a lcq where they take 4,if you dont make cut you are headed home by 9am saturday morning

This is just to set the 40 for the 3 motos.
Tim507
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3/31/2014 6:28pm Edited Date/Time 3/31/2014 6:30pm
LL yes it is a hard road from the NW!! Made the trip home to Portand one year in 41 hours and I was the only driver as Sean and Rory were 14 - 15.....had to get home so I could keep the money coming in......LOL
Ken G
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3/31/2014 6:54pm
loftyair wrote:
Well the washougal is usually rained out. Which means you get to do a whole lap and a half in the infield on grass with cones...
Well the washougal is usually rained out. Which means you get to do a whole lap and a half in the infield on grass with cones as corners. Now that sucks no matter how far or near. Talk about cost per lap!
you had a choice or didn't qualify in the SW so you used the dual qualifier to come up here and race. We are not given that opportunity we are forced to drive to cali for our regional and the dual qualifier.
loftyair
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3/31/2014 7:11pm
I agree that it is bs for nw. I should know, I live in Oregon. The sw is screwed for many years now too. Not the same way though. They only take 4 in the sw! Should be more like 10. Forces lots of faster kids to drive to nw or mid to qualify, even though they are way faster than others that make it in.
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3/31/2014 7:16pm
I'm a little confused by the dual qualifier thing. Do they have these regularly?

The Oatfield Area qualifies you for both the Northwest and Southwest Regionals?? Or do you have to declare one region or the other when you sign up?

Seems jacked if a rider could do the Oatfield Area and then go race the Southwest Regional and if they don't qualify there then go to Hangtown and try the Northwest Regional.
Ken G
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3/31/2014 7:30pm
You can qualify for both NW and SW in one day, just pay double the mxsports fees and fill out forms for both regions. The SW has 5 slots and the NW has only 4 slots.
hillbilly
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3/31/2014 7:45pm
I'm seeing a youth and amateur regional up there for nw,that's what I'm referring to.

How do you get all that in,38x3 motos.
Ken G
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3/31/2014 7:55pm
NW and SW dual qualifier is in one race not two seperate races. You pay for one or both regions and qualify and your set for both regionals.
wpark89
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3/31/2014 7:58pm
It's always been combined like that out west Hillbilly. I don't know why...probably because some of the classes at the Regionals out here aren't as full as they are back East (where you guys have Youth Classes at a separate Regional)
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3/31/2014 8:04pm
Ken G wrote:
NW and SW dual qualifier is in one race not two seperate races. You pay for one or both regions and qualify and your set for...
NW and SW dual qualifier is in one race not two seperate races. You pay for one or both regions and qualify and your set for both regionals.
Yeah...that seems like bullshit.

It's one thing if some rich family wants to drive across the country to try to qualify in different regions. But to be able to ride 1 area qualifier the same day that qualifies you for 2 different regions just by paying extra is dumb. The race should be either 1 or the other or the riders should have to pick one when they sign up.
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wpark89 wrote:
It's always been combined like that out west Hillbilly. I don't know why...probably because some of the classes at the Regionals out here aren't as full...
It's always been combined like that out west Hillbilly. I don't know why...probably because some of the classes at the Regionals out here aren't as full as they are back East (where you guys have Youth Classes at a separate Regional)
Do you do 3 motos?

The rule book used to say 15 minutes at regional,tbis was 87 not read one since,but in 03,the last time i went,

We did about 15 min at monster mountain that year.
wpark89
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3/31/2014 9:40pm
2 or 3...Looking at results in 2013 they did 2 moto's at NW Regionals, but 3 in 2012. And 2010 and '11 just did 2 motos. Years ago it was 3.

By the way...got any Cagiva parts laying around?
3/31/2014 10:13pm
Sucks for me, I live in Medford which is 5 hours away from both places...

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