Race fuel breaks Searles wrist?

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3/10/2014 3:26am
http://moto.mpora.com/news/anstie-third-as-searle-breaks-wrist.html


Searle had a massive spill over the Si Racha track’s infamous double jump. On landing, he was pitched over the bars and his factory WP forks snapped in half, with the springs and internals coming out and spilling onto the track.

Kawasaki rider Searle was spitting blood but his worst injury was a double fracture in his wrist which he is due to have plated the day after the race in Thailand.

Paddock rumours suggest Searle may have failed to clear the jump as his bike may not have been running right due to the locally-sourced fuel. His team boss Harry Nolte fumed: “This fuel has affected so many teams – us, the factory Kawasaki team and factory Suzuki teams at least.” The factory Honda team also confirmed their bike were slowed, too.

With the teams forced to use locally-sourced, high-octane race fuel due to import restrictions on fuel after the recent civil unrest in Thailand, many of the riders had machine problems, especially in the 450 class.

Clement Desalle was furious after his bike slowed and started to misfire in the final MX1 race which he had led until he was passed by runaway double winner Tony Cairoli. Instead of riding to the podium after the race, livid Desalle rode his bike back to the Suzuki pits and sat on it revving it wide open so everyone could hear it was misfiring.

His team-mate Kevin Strijbos also visibly slowed at the end of the race, losing a handful of places due to his ailing bike. The Kawasakis of Gautier Paulin and Steven Frossard were also badly affected. Frossard failed to finish, but Paulin coaxed his slowing KXF to the finish line but lost his red plate as championship leader. Every lap Paulin made the huge double jump but came precariously close to not making it as his bike was under-powered.
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Cairoli (KTM), 1st
Desalle (Suzuki), 2nd
Van Horebeek (Yamaha), 3rd
Nagl (Honda), 4th
Paulin (Kawasaki), 5th
Waters (Husqvarna), 7th
Guarneri (TM), 8th

7 brands in top 8, nothing wrong with that.
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3/10/2014 4:28am
Stefan Everts tweeted-


The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not allow that...


So KTM clearly had issues with it as well
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3/10/2014 5:14am
There are fuckwits in Thailand throwing grenades into crowded markets killing and maiming

and drive by shootings killing 6 yrs old girls

and they ban fuel !? wtf.........begs belief how this country operates sometimes.

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3/10/2014 5:22am
Fraser wrote:
Stefan Everts tweeted- The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not...
Stefan Everts tweeted-


The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not allow that...


So KTM clearly had issues with it as well
He was not there to see the positives!
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3/10/2014 7:19am
everts just saying that to make it look like they had issues. save face. makest it look like a level playing field. they either had good fuel or had tuned their bikes for the thai fuel. im just stoking the fire.
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3/10/2014 7:29am
Fraser wrote:
Stefan Everts tweeted- The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not...
Stefan Everts tweeted-


The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not allow that...


So KTM clearly had issues with it as well
Everts did allow it,words after the fact are weak.
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3/10/2014 7:46am
Fraser wrote:
Stefan Everts tweeted- The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not...
Stefan Everts tweeted-


The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not allow that...


So KTM clearly had issues with it as well
hillbilly wrote:
Everts did allow it,words after the fact are weak.
That's a fair point
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3/10/2014 10:15am
Fraser wrote:
Stefan Everts tweeted- The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not...
Stefan Everts tweeted-


The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not allow that...


So KTM clearly had issues with it as well
According to " Shanes" on the first page.....the Kawi's were the only ones that had issues. Cause his stock bikes run perfect on that fuel....and they are KTM's. KTM's can run strait water out of a mud hole and produce more power is what I am getting from him on this subject. And the Kawi's are just pieces of shit I guess.
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3/10/2014 10:17am
I would love to see how propaganda master Geof twists this story. Too bad I never visit his site. And never will.
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3/10/2014 10:31am
kongols wrote:
I would love to see how propaganda master Geof twists this story. Too bad I never visit his site. And never will.
Geoff has a website? Hmm?....who knew......I guess I missed that when he spammed the shit out of " This " site about 104,854 times. Silly Silly Silly Woohoo
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3/10/2014 10:41am
How easy it is to bring some good fuel into the country.

I'm sure they brought water,I'd hide it in blue Gatorade bottles.

Come on,

But,for a series to let the most precious liquid besides water be supplied by thugs must meas the series is run by thugs
3/10/2014 10:57am
Fraser wrote:
Stefan Everts tweeted- The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not...
Stefan Everts tweeted-


The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not allow that...


So KTM clearly had issues with it as well
Tommy Searle tweeted:
" it brought a lot more than danger to mee!"
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3/10/2014 10:59am Edited Date/Time 3/10/2014 11:00am
Fraser wrote:
Stefan Everts tweeted- The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not...
Stefan Everts tweeted-


The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not allow that...


So KTM clearly had issues with it as well
tweet disappeard from Stefan's twitter page .....

strange ....
3/10/2014 11:13am
kongols wrote:
I would love to see how propaganda master Geof twists this story. Too bad I never visit his site. And never will.
I am ashamed to say i have now visited and he has took all the positives from Thailand, which had it not been for the fuel hampering many riders and ending ones season, were quite a lot imo.
Just a shame he cant report everything that happens or everything a rider has to say , good or bad!
3/10/2014 11:15am
Fraser wrote:
Stefan Everts tweeted- The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not...
Stefan Everts tweeted-


The fuel problems brought our mx riders in danger at the GP in Thailand! In a risky sport like MX we can not allow that...


So KTM clearly had issues with it as well
biker85 wrote:
tweet disappeard from Stefan's twitter page .....

strange ....
Still on Searles!
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3/10/2014 11:32am
kongols wrote:
I would love to see how propaganda master Geof twists this story. Too bad I never visit his site. And never will.
He already covered it. http://www.mxlarge.com/2014/03/10/top-ten-things-thailand/

Assuming that Jiff's list counts down in reverse order, the fourth best thing about the Thai GP, according to Jiff, was the fact that Desalle and Suzuki lost the win because of fuel problems, and Desalle had a hissy fit afterwards (going straight to the pits rather than podium and revving the arse out of his spluttering bike for all to see and hear).

The last item (#1?) was the fact that they had McDonalds at the track and "The chance to have some crap food".

I regret not going now....

Oh, and also Youthstream's workers work harder than the riders apparently.
3/10/2014 12:14pm
c3011 wrote:
That's what you get from a second rate series..........
Fu££ing dimwit!

Serious conversation and that's what you come up with.
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3/10/2014 12:17pm
Robgvx wrote:
He already covered it. http://www.mxlarge.com/2014/03/10/top-ten-things-thailand/ Assuming that Jiff's list counts down in reverse order, the fourth best thing about the Thai GP, according to Jiff, was...
He already covered it. http://www.mxlarge.com/2014/03/10/top-ten-things-thailand/

Assuming that Jiff's list counts down in reverse order, the fourth best thing about the Thai GP, according to Jiff, was the fact that Desalle and Suzuki lost the win because of fuel problems, and Desalle had a hissy fit afterwards (going straight to the pits rather than podium and revving the arse out of his spluttering bike for all to see and hear).

The last item (#1?) was the fact that they had McDonalds at the track and "The chance to have some crap food".

I regret not going now....

Oh, and also Youthstream's workers work harder than the riders apparently.
Don`t give me links I ain`t gonna click on it. If you want you can copy/paste.
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Robgvx wrote:
He already covered it. http://www.mxlarge.com/2014/03/10/top-ten-things-thailand/ Assuming that Jiff's list counts down in reverse order, the fourth best thing about the Thai GP, according to Jiff, was...
He already covered it. http://www.mxlarge.com/2014/03/10/top-ten-things-thailand/

Assuming that Jiff's list counts down in reverse order, the fourth best thing about the Thai GP, according to Jiff, was the fact that Desalle and Suzuki lost the win because of fuel problems, and Desalle had a hissy fit afterwards (going straight to the pits rather than podium and revving the arse out of his spluttering bike for all to see and hear).

The last item (#1?) was the fact that they had McDonalds at the track and "The chance to have some crap food".

I regret not going now....

Oh, and also Youthstream's workers work harder than the riders apparently.
kongols wrote:
Don`t give me links I ain`t gonna click on it. If you want you can copy/paste.
Top Ten thing to pick from the Grand Prix of Thailand was pretty easy. A number of things stood out, just as it did in 2013. So while sitting waiting for my flight to Australia where I will spend a weeks holiday (although as always MXlarge will continue to have news updates, interviews, and other interesting stories thoughout the week).

Max Anstie. You gotta love this kid. He is so full of life it is sometimes just over flowing with crazy comments. His big smile is a pleasure to see and his passion for the sport just as enjoyable. When Anstie made the now famous Dave Bulmer/Vurbmoto interview, mentioning that he was better than two time World MX2 Champion many people laughed, some were angry and others just didn’t care. It made the excitement for the battle between the two really thrilling and when Anstie led the second MX2 moto, then block-passed Herlings when the Dutchman tried to pass for the lead was in my opinion the highlight of the weekend.

Thai people. You wouldn’t meet a sweeter, friendly race of people. Like Anstie the Thai love to smile and there isn’t too much better in this World than smiling faces. Be it in Bangkok, Pattaya or at the track these friendly people made everyones trip enjoyable. Was it the people serving McDonalds (yep they had McDonalds stands all around the circuit again), or the people at the hotel in Pattaya, or track officials, or even the local racers who got to ride the GP circuit, all were smiling and offering help.

MX2 class. All you can say about this class is WOW. Not only a bunch of great riders, but the top six or seven are all well respected, friendly kids. Be it the leader of the pack Herlings, or names like Coldenhoff, Ferrandis, Tonus, Febvre, Tonkov or Anstie, they are all brilliant for the sport. Friendly kids learning their trade. If anyone wants to doubt this class as being not strong enough, then wait until the MXoN comes around. Heaven help Blake Baggott if he comes again.

Antonio Cairoli. The King of World Motocross returned to the top of the throne. Cairoli looked average in Qatar, and of course he was carrying an injured foot, but in Thailand the relaxed and cool Italian dazzled with his speed and concentration. He makes his job look easy, and that in itself is a craft not too many riders have.


Pattaya. Love it or hate it, it is one wild place. Inhuman in many ways, but if you like to party, then this is the place to be. At night its lights, camera, action, during the day maybe a little less for the eye, and way too hot, but still, it brought a lot of the paddock people, a lot of fun.

Dylan Ferrandis. How cool is this French kid. He beats Herlings on Saturday, passes him after the Dutchman had taken the lead in the qualification race and sits in the press conference as if it was no big deal. On Sunday he was less effective, but trying to stick his front wheel under the moto leader (Herlings again) showed he wants it bad. One well known French journalist mentioned to me Ferrandis was expected to be the next Marvin Musquin or Christophe Pourcel, and after the first two rounds of the MXGP season I understand why.

Rockstar Energy Suzuki. Sylvain Geboers and his team put in a great effort, and have done for many, many years. Their rider Clement Desalle nearly won the Grand Prix for them and fuel problems probably cost him any chance of really racing with Cairoli. In saying that, his performance after the race was very disappointing and nobody deserves that type of treatment, and for sure not one of our legends Sylvain Geboers and his family.

Max Nagl. The German veteran is second in the World and his performance in Thailand went nearly unnoticed by many of the media. In Qatar he rode as well as I have seen him ride and Thailand he came from way back in one moto to produce a fourth place. Nagl looks confident and talking to team manager Roger Harvey he has finally come to terms with just how good he is.

Youthstream. Bringing the sport to countries like Thailand deserves credit. It wasn’t the easiest race for the teams, riders and rest of the paddock people, but Youthstream once again did their best to make it a nice trip for everyone and their team of workers probably work harder than anyone at the event, and that includes the riders.

McDonalds. I am sure not we all ate too much McDonalds and it seems like this was the daily diet for all of the paddock people. I know I put away something like 30 hamburgers over the weekend and sure hope I never have to eat McDonalds again in the coming weeks. However, the service was brilliant and most people enjoyed the chance to have some crap food while enjoying our great sport.

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Stefan82 wrote:
Cairoli (KTM), 1st Desalle (Suzuki), 2nd Van Horebeek (Yamaha), 3rd Nagl (Honda), 4th Paulin (Kawasaki), 5th Waters (Husqvarna), 7th Guarneri (TM), 8th 7 brands in top...
Cairoli (KTM), 1st
Desalle (Suzuki), 2nd
Van Horebeek (Yamaha), 3rd
Nagl (Honda), 4th
Paulin (Kawasaki), 5th
Waters (Husqvarna), 7th
Guarneri (TM), 8th

7 brands in top 8, nothing wrong with that.
Huh? Not sure I see your point. Are you saying it's ok people got hurt/dnf'ed and struggled to finish the race because there was 7 different brands in the top 8.
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3/10/2014 1:37pm
Stefan82 wrote:
Cairoli (KTM), 1st Desalle (Suzuki), 2nd Van Horebeek (Yamaha), 3rd Nagl (Honda), 4th Paulin (Kawasaki), 5th Waters (Husqvarna), 7th Guarneri (TM), 8th 7 brands in top...
Cairoli (KTM), 1st
Desalle (Suzuki), 2nd
Van Horebeek (Yamaha), 3rd
Nagl (Honda), 4th
Paulin (Kawasaki), 5th
Waters (Husqvarna), 7th
Guarneri (TM), 8th

7 brands in top 8, nothing wrong with that.
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Huh? Not sure I see your point. Are you saying it's ok people got hurt/dnf'ed and struggled to finish the race because there was 7 different...
Huh? Not sure I see your point. Are you saying it's ok people got hurt/dnf'ed and struggled to finish the race because there was 7 different brands in the top 8.
Yes.
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3/10/2014 1:42pm
Was this fuel requirement (can't bring their own in) new this year or were they not allowed to bring it in last year too?
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3/10/2014 1:45pm
After this fiasco, the riders and teams should tell Thailand and Longo, "Either we bring our own fuel or we aren't going. Your choice."
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3/10/2014 1:46pm
kongols wrote:
I would love to see how propaganda master Geof twists this story. Too bad I never visit his site. And never will.
He doesn't want to get his hospitality pass revoked
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3/10/2014 2:41pm Edited Date/Time 3/10/2014 2:42pm
Brent wrote:
That's a shame if it is true about the fuel. Isn't that the promoter's job to check the fuel quality ? Luongo has such a death...
That's a shame if it is true about the fuel. Isn't that the promoter's job to check the fuel quality ?

Luongo has such a death grip on this series that if its proven that the fuel was shit and caused Searle's crash, nothing will happen anyway.

First rate series and racers, 3rd rate promoter. GP riders need to be treated better than this.
I thought it would be the promoters job to put on the race, wouldnt it be the teams job to cater their bike to the track, temperature and fuel conditions? Sure, the bikes made less power and some suffered fuel temp related issues, or reliability issues, but its the teams job to work around that. Tune the bikes to the conditions, they all have that capability. Dont just turn up with the usual Euro set up then complain when it doesnt work with a different fuel.

In a perfect world they allow a spec fuel or the teams regular race fuel to be used, but you're dealing with more than the motorcycle industry here, you're talking customs and government regulations. You cant tell me this was sprung on the teams the day of the race, if they didnt do the research then its on them.

Ps. Its a massive shame that Searle is injured due to something out of his control, i just dont see how the teams are completely blameless in this and its all Luongo's fault again.
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3/10/2014 6:52pm
Here is Geoff's quote for his "Number one thing about the Thai GP"

I know I put away something like 30 hamburgers over the weekend

And THAT is number one. Never mind the riders and their pesky fuel problems and broken bones.

and it's Baggett.
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3/10/2014 7:39pm Edited Date/Time 3/10/2014 7:43pm
Haven't seen the gp so no clue on the size of the jump. But man, looking at the pi of his bike it looks like he is damn lucky he only broke his wristShocked
3/10/2014 8:09pm
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Haven't seen the gp so no clue on the size of the jump. But man, looking at the pi of his bike it looks like he...
Haven't seen the gp so no clue on the size of the jump. But man, looking at the pi of his bike it looks like he is damn lucky he only broke his wristShocked
Footage is from last year but this is the jump if I'm not mistaken.
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