Bad Mag

Edited Date/Time 1/23/2012 8:23am
I dont remember a recent thread on this, but I am just absolutely appauled by the magazine that comes with Membership to the AMA. It shows nothing, but street bike stuff which I know composes much of the market, but still I wish they would do something to spice it up.

Every month when it comes in the mail, I either look on the cover to see Jay Leno's head, race bike specs, or some gigantic street whale bike tour through some nowhere town. Motocross is very exciting and if they took the time I am sure many of the older members of the AMA who used to ride Moto would appreciate some more moto in there.

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GuyB
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9/15/2008 3:57pm
Appauled. Is that something to do with Ron Paul?
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9/15/2008 4:23pm
aplaud?
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9/15/2008 4:29pm
Appalled.
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appled?


actualy i was aplauding them when he was being appalled!

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9/15/2008 4:46pm
I think he mean impaled.
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Where is aplman?
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9/15/2008 4:53pm
new AMA member eh?? it's been that way since the earth cooled geezuss.....
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Dude its the AMA. Cut them some slack already. Just because 25,000 motocross racers send them $45. per year (over a million dollars) you expect them to do something for you? Take your pin at the end of the year and be happy.

AMA. Protecting your right to ride. (3 local tracks closed this year and the AMA did nothing about it).

Yeah it sucks. Get next to it. The "magazine" is the least of thier problems.



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vet954 wrote:
Dude its the AMA. Cut them some slack already. Just because 25,000 motocross racers send them $45. per year (over a million dollars) you expect them...
Dude its the AMA. Cut them some slack already. Just because 25,000 motocross racers send them $45. per year (over a million dollars) you expect them to do something for you? Take your pin at the end of the year and be happy.

AMA. Protecting your right to ride. (3 local tracks closed this year and the AMA did nothing about it).

Yeah it sucks. Get next to it. The "magazine" is the least of thier problems.



Fighting for the rights for street bike riders not to have to wear a helmet takes up a lot of time so it doesn't leave much time for the off road crowd.

Hate to keep harping on this point but after wanting lower sound forever it strikes me as odd that SX drove the AMA to do something about lowering sound levels and not losing riding areas and tracks for eight freaking years!

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No, no, no...it's fighting for the right to be able to kill yourself without a helmet. Get it right. Wink
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9/15/2008 11:24pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:27pm
crowe176 wrote:
Where is aplman?
the chances of him making an apparition here is very slight.


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9/16/2008 12:02am Edited Date/Time 9/16/2008 12:14am
GuyB wrote:
No, no, no...it's fighting for the right to be able to kill yourself without a helmet. Get it right. Wink
...and loud exhaust.
9/16/2008 1:30am
gt80rider wrote:
new AMA member eh?? it's been that way since the earth cooled geezuss.....
no not a new member just get tired throwing the same thing away every month
9/16/2008 1:33am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:27pm
GuyB wrote:
Appalled.
I though it looked like it was spelled wrong. Actually tried it two ways, but settled on the one 'l', but for this post I fired up 'safari' which corrects spelling hopefully to the delight of all the grammarians out there.


9/16/2008 1:37am
vet954 wrote:
Dude its the AMA. Cut them some slack already. Just because 25,000 motocross racers send them $45. per year (over a million dollars) you expect them...
Dude its the AMA. Cut them some slack already. Just because 25,000 motocross racers send them $45. per year (over a million dollars) you expect them to do something for you? Take your pin at the end of the year and be happy.

AMA. Protecting your right to ride. (3 local tracks closed this year and the AMA did nothing about it).

Yeah it sucks. Get next to it. The "magazine" is the least of thier problems.



Well I understand, but those magazines are not cheap to manufacture, I would rather see the money go for something good or the AMA should switch the name to something like street whale monthly and use the off-road peoples money to fight for the off-road scene.
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I though it looked like it was spelled wrong. Actually tried it two ways, but settled on the one 'l', but for this post I fired...
I though it looked like it was spelled wrong. Actually tried it two ways, but settled on the one 'l', but for this post I fired up 'safari' which corrects spelling hopefully to the delight of all the grammarians out there.


Firefox does the same.
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9/16/2008 4:32am
vet954 wrote:
Dude its the AMA. Cut them some slack already. Just because 25,000 motocross racers send them $45. per year (over a million dollars) you expect them...
Dude its the AMA. Cut them some slack already. Just because 25,000 motocross racers send them $45. per year (over a million dollars) you expect them to do something for you? Take your pin at the end of the year and be happy.

AMA. Protecting your right to ride. (3 local tracks closed this year and the AMA did nothing about it).

Yeah it sucks. Get next to it. The "magazine" is the least of thier problems.



Well I understand, but those magazines are not cheap to manufacture, I would rather see the money go for something good or the AMA should switch...
Well I understand, but those magazines are not cheap to manufacture, I would rather see the money go for something good or the AMA should switch the name to something like street whale monthly and use the off-road peoples money to fight for the off-road scene.
uh,

they have a few ads in there ya know......

I would suspect that they don't lose a lot of membership fees producing it.

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I wonder what percentage of the annual membership income is made up from the motocross/offroad community? Anyone know?
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9/16/2008 6:16am
You didn't hear it at the SX races? "Every rider on the track here today is an AMA member. Shouldn't you be?"

YEAH, because they won't let you race if you're not.
9/16/2008 6:23am
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You didn't hear it at the SX races? "Every rider on the track here today is an AMA member. Shouldn't you be?" YEAH, because they won't...
You didn't hear it at the SX races? "Every rider on the track here today is an AMA member. Shouldn't you be?"

YEAH, because they won't let you race if you're not.
And I love their advertisement in magazines with the riders head circled and it says "ama member" and various people in the crowd circled with "ama member". Seems like false advertising since they have no proof that they are members.
9/16/2008 6:40am
The AMA should never be cut any slack. I just talked to a guy from Maryland riding down here in Florida getting ready for the mini o's. He said that a law was passed in Maryland that made it against the law to ride on your own property within three hundred yards of your neighbor! That would mean you could own over 20 acres and still not ride on your own property! Maybe some Maryland posters on here could explain this better.

The point is where was the AMA on this one? I would like one person on here to please tell me one thing that the AMA does to benefit local or pro. MX or its riders today!

9/16/2008 9:34am
The AMA should never be cut any slack. I just talked to a guy from Maryland riding down here in Florida getting ready for the mini...
The AMA should never be cut any slack. I just talked to a guy from Maryland riding down here in Florida getting ready for the mini o's. He said that a law was passed in Maryland that made it against the law to ride on your own property within three hundred yards of your neighbor! That would mean you could own over 20 acres and still not ride on your own property! Maybe some Maryland posters on here could explain this better.

The point is where was the AMA on this one? I would like one person on here to please tell me one thing that the AMA does to benefit local or pro. MX or its riders today!

I had not heard anything like that in Maryland, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Once on their survey card I wrote "more motocross in the magazine" under suggestions and they sent me a very terse letter to the effect of motocrossers make up a tiny portion of the AMA membership. Basically, they went out of their way to inform me they don't give a shit about motocross- and yeah, it ticked me off since I have been a member off and on since 1986.

So I went back to the joy of poring over the lifetime member lists they publish.
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9/16/2008 11:57am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:28pm
There is truth to the proposed ban on "riding on your own land" in Maryland.

One such proposal was introduced in Harford County, Maryland approximately a year ago.

However-- it was fought pretty hard, and by all indications was shot down. I am under the impression (and hoping) that it is now a totally dead proposal now.

Besides the riding public being understandably outraged-- the Harford County farming community also got involved. Under this proposal, they would also have been included as they would have been banned from using ATV's and utility vehicles (Mules, Rhinos, etc) on at least certain portions of their own farms in Harford County...

The Harford County farming community-- although dwindling in numbers as a result of development over the years, got pretty peeved to learn that a 'tool of their trade' (ATV's/utility carts, etc) could be considered a "recreational vehicle" that would have also been included under the ban. (not to mention that local hunters, that favor ATVs for heading out into the woods also joined the fight).

Another thing that stirred the hornet's nest was the question of exactly how this proposal was going to be inforced.
The concept that a neighbor that wasn't ever thrilled with you having a bike/ATV/etc could now almost stand out and wait for you with a tape measure next to their property was another source of contention.

The combination of local riders, farmers, hunters, etc mounted a pretty stiff oposition that will hopefully stay that way!

The AMA did send me a "legal alert" letter advising me about the proposal (and that I should join the fight).
I can't really attest first-hand what involvement the AMA did/did not have on this proposal being defeated-- (or if they even did anything more than just sending me a letter!).
I would have to say that as far as the AMA being "proactive" or "leading the fight"--- that it never happened (I got my legal letter a couple months after this proposal was introduced!).

I'd have to give the most if not all of the credit to the local motorcycle&ATV riders who were loud and very vocal about defeating this--- and to them networking via the internet, craigslist, etc to getting the word out quickly and clearly. I am aware who most of these people were/are, and I do know that their vocal efforts were the key factor in defeating this.

Score one for the local community getting involved! ...and hopefully the last time Harford County has to deal with that issue!
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The AMA mag sucks. Who actually reads it? But, they sell ads into a magazine that is paid for by membership fees. It's a weak sale though. Would you want to advertise in a magazine that no one wants but gets due to a membership? I think Rider just started something similar.
9/17/2008 1:37am
vet954 wrote:
Dude its the AMA. Cut them some slack already. Just because 25,000 motocross racers send them $45. per year (over a million dollars) you expect them...
Dude its the AMA. Cut them some slack already. Just because 25,000 motocross racers send them $45. per year (over a million dollars) you expect them to do something for you? Take your pin at the end of the year and be happy.

AMA. Protecting your right to ride. (3 local tracks closed this year and the AMA did nothing about it).

Yeah it sucks. Get next to it. The "magazine" is the least of thier problems.



Well I understand, but those magazines are not cheap to manufacture, I would rather see the money go for something good or the AMA should switch...
Well I understand, but those magazines are not cheap to manufacture, I would rather see the money go for something good or the AMA should switch the name to something like street whale monthly and use the off-road peoples money to fight for the off-road scene.
JustMX wrote:
uh,

they have a few ads in there ya know......

I would suspect that they don't lose a lot of membership fees producing it.

they should make it an online mag only.

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