KR94 responds to JB51

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1/12/2014 12:46am
I had a problem with Barcia's move on Roczen. He went out of his way, actually slowing himself down, to come up into where Roczen was running. I'm ok with some aggressiveness. Dungey could turn it up a bit, but not cool with Barcia. I just prefer hard racing where you pick a line different from the other dude and see who's faster. Show some skill. Anyone can just plow into another dude. It takes true skill to pass with minimal contact. Sad thing is, I think he has the skill to do it.

Personally, if I was racing with Barcia, it would be simple. If he raced me like that, every time after he'd be over the berm when he got near me. Honestly, I think that's where it'll go if he keeps trying the top guys like that.
1/12/2014 1:08am
Barcia shut the door and Kenny ran into that door.
nah
its not like Kenny ran into Barcias backwheel..
Barcia came across totally straight all of a sudden and hit his front tire (you can see it from above, the slowmo camera doesnt really show it)
1/12/2014 1:42am
Barcia shut the door and Kenny ran into that door.
crusty_xx wrote:
nah its not like Kenny ran into Barcias backwheel.. Barcia came across totally straight all of a sudden and hit his front tire (you can see...
nah
its not like Kenny ran into Barcias backwheel..
Barcia came across totally straight all of a sudden and hit his front tire (you can see it from above, the slowmo camera doesnt really show it)
Roczen tried to cut inside and Barcia shut the door. Quite an intelligent move from BamBam. Leaving that door open would have favoured KR into setting up a pass by forcing Barcia wide. And i don't think he wanted to take KR out, the lines just collided and KR was the unfortunate one. If Roczen was half a second later or sooner to that spot nothing would have happened.
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1/12/2014 2:06am
Barcia went straight in a sweeping turn! He didn't shut a door. He just decided he wasn't going to let anyone else pass him after he was in the wrong line in the sweeper so he went straight. I think Roczen was so caught off guard by such a move that he didn't have time to react. Can't say I blame him.

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1/12/2014 2:11am
2thefront wrote:
Barcia went straight in a sweeping turn! He didn't shut a door. He just decided he wasn't going to let anyone else pass him after he...
Barcia went straight in a sweeping turn! He didn't shut a door. He just decided he wasn't going to let anyone else pass him after he was in the wrong line in the sweeper so he went straight. I think Roczen was so caught off guard by such a move that he didn't have time to react. Can't say I blame him.
thats what I meant
but you cant blame either of them, its not like it was too agressive or something and Ken should have been prepared for that.
I hope he doenst do anything stupid for payback :D
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1/12/2014 2:14am
Looks like Barcia tried to play BamBam with Dungey, Dungey moved forward, BamBam didn't.

I doubt I'll ever like Barcia. His little fit where he peeled out on the medical team, then cried like a little bitch, I doubt I'll ever get over that one.
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1/12/2014 2:27am
Its so funny that Barcia is a totally cry baby when the same thing happens to him… I just loved it when big Ken Dedyker took Barcia out at the Nations, and almost every american was offended that Ken was going after him.. Now when Barcia takes Kenny out you are all holding the hand over Barcia.. F*** Barcia. Hope some one take you out too, it probably won't be Kenny though, he's to small and not use to playing that game..
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1/12/2014 2:45am
bigborefan wrote:
Looks like Barcia tried to play BamBam with Dungey, Dungey moved forward, BamBam didn't. I doubt I'll ever like Barcia. His little fit where he peeled...
Looks like Barcia tried to play BamBam with Dungey, Dungey moved forward, BamBam didn't.

I doubt I'll ever like Barcia. His little fit where he peeled out on the medical team, then cried like a little bitch, I doubt I'll ever get over that one.
Ya.. That one always comes back in my mind too... I don't really feel like any explanation of just "really putting all the work in to win" will cover that. Was a bitch move.
1/12/2014 2:59am
Barcia's tactics are "if you can't take em on take em out" Kenny all the way.
1/12/2014 3:19am Edited Date/Time 1/12/2014 3:21am
2thefront wrote:
Barcia went straight in a sweeping turn! He didn't shut a door. He just decided he wasn't going to let anyone else pass him after he...
Barcia went straight in a sweeping turn! He didn't shut a door. He just decided he wasn't going to let anyone else pass him after he was in the wrong line in the sweeper so he went straight. I think Roczen was so caught off guard by such a move that he didn't have time to react. Can't say I blame him.
Yeah that's pretty much the way I read it.

That whole turn was a sweeping arc which then headed into the first rhythm section with the riders sometimes still leaning over upon entry. Justin looked momentarily flustered as the win began to perhaps slip from his fingers, and so when Ken went by in the sand section he looked for immediate retaliation - going "straight" up the sweeper and into Ken's line, with the sole intention of blocking, not preserving momentum or anything. Nothing too wrong with that imo, but the location completely caught KR off guard I think. Just wasn't expecting it.
1/12/2014 3:42am
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Its so funny that Barcia is a totally cry baby when the same thing happens to him… I just loved it when big Ken Dedyker took...
Its so funny that Barcia is a totally cry baby when the same thing happens to him… I just loved it when big Ken Dedyker took Barcia out at the Nations, and almost every american was offended that Ken was going after him.. Now when Barcia takes Kenny out you are all holding the hand over Barcia.. F*** Barcia. Hope some one take you out too, it probably won't be Kenny though, he's to small and not use to playing that game..
No one is holding the hand over Barcia.

And Ken did not take out Barcia, Barcia ran into Ken.
But Barcia forgot that Ken is a little bit to big to do a Bambam on.
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1/12/2014 4:22am
2thefront wrote:
Barcia went straight in a sweeping turn! He didn't shut a door. He just decided he wasn't going to let anyone else pass him after he...
Barcia went straight in a sweeping turn! He didn't shut a door. He just decided he wasn't going to let anyone else pass him after he was in the wrong line in the sweeper so he went straight. I think Roczen was so caught off guard by such a move that he didn't have time to react. Can't say I blame him.
Yeah that's pretty much the way I read it. That whole turn was a sweeping arc which then headed into the first rhythm section with the...
Yeah that's pretty much the way I read it.

That whole turn was a sweeping arc which then headed into the first rhythm section with the riders sometimes still leaning over upon entry. Justin looked momentarily flustered as the win began to perhaps slip from his fingers, and so when Ken went by in the sand section he looked for immediate retaliation - going "straight" up the sweeper and into Ken's line, with the sole intention of blocking, not preserving momentum or anything. Nothing too wrong with that imo, but the location completely caught KR off guard I think. Just wasn't expecting it.
That's pretty much it,Barcia was going backwards,it was a clever but deliberate move to fuck Ken up

Barcia often goes for the man,even if it alters his course,rather than looking forward and just getting on and racing the race,or straight up racing the other guy

And yeah he goes off on one when someone gives him some of it back,when Souberas accidentally wiped him and a couple of others out at Bercy and Barcia waited a lap to put him down I lost all respect for him,I'm sure it would have been a ban in AMA

Shame as it messed up seeing a bit more to the mix,Kenny was looming in a great spot there
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1/12/2014 4:25am
I don't actually think Kenny is pissed at Barcia or think it was a dirty move? Dry Just some joking around. Bit if he think it was a bad move it's just ridiculous
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1/12/2014 5:06am Edited Date/Time 1/12/2014 5:08am
dantheman wrote:
Didn't Justin start sweeping inside and drifted out... while Kenny drifted way wide and tried to recover cutting in? And then that's where Barcia's rear got...
Didn't Justin start sweeping inside and drifted out... while Kenny drifted way wide and tried to recover cutting in?
And then that's where Barcia's rear got with Kenny's front? He(Barcia) had the position. I'll have to watch again.
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Think you NAILED it.
i think you are on drugs.

Barcia will make contact every time he passes if he can , its how it he rides.

hopefully he will get whats coming his way

Tweet is a fake anyway

Always remember Barcia pissing his pants after getting knocked down at Bercy... he cries like a girl when he gets it comes back
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1/12/2014 5:10am
No one is holding the hand over Barcia. And Ken did not take out Barcia, Barcia ran into Ken. But Barcia forgot that Ken is a...
No one is holding the hand over Barcia.

And Ken did not take out Barcia, Barcia ran into Ken.
But Barcia forgot that Ken is a little bit to big to do a Bambam on.
Exactly… But he still is a cry baby.. And after his stunt in Paris Bercy and the one where he roosted the medical crew, among others, i don't think i will ever like the way he is…. I like when he taste some of his own medicine..
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1/12/2014 5:24am
Rick Johnson is sitting on his couch laughing about what people consider dirty riding these days.
1/12/2014 5:30am
drifting wide and trying to square up with barcia right behind you is always going to end in tears , kenny should know better at this stage of the game
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1/12/2014 5:58am
Kids do dumb shit, kids say dumb shit... Ain't the first time, won't be the last. NBD!
1/12/2014 6:33am
slipdog wrote:
Kids do dumb shit, kids say dumb shit... Ain't the first time, won't be the last. NBD!
Yep, crazy stuff.

It gets around wider and faster with the electric age too.
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1/12/2014 6:47am
bd wrote:
Please tell me how Barcia was dirty??? Either the fans are becoming pussies or do not know what dirty is...... Please watch 1990 Seattle and 1990...
Please tell me how Barcia was dirty???

Either the fans are becoming pussies or do not know what dirty is......

Please watch 1990 Seattle and 1990 Anaheim Supercrosses
You nailed it on the pussy part.
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1/12/2014 7:19am
philG wrote:
i think you are on drugs. Barcia will make contact every time he passes if he can , its how it he rides. hopefully he will...
i think you are on drugs.

Barcia will make contact every time he passes if he can , its how it he rides.

hopefully he will get whats coming his way

Tweet is a fake anyway

Always remember Barcia pissing his pants after getting knocked down at Bercy... he cries like a girl when he gets it comes back
Barcia is blazing fast, but does seem to go out of his way to make contact in a pass or to cut across a front wheel. Watching last night you could see that every time he did this in a pass, he actually caused the gap to those in front to grow and the gap to those behind to shrink. Maybe more thought into just moving forward w/o the gratuitous and needless contact gets him further up the charts at the end.
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1/12/2014 7:37am
All you barcia fanboys would be the first to call it out if rolls were reversed and are the idiots that would make excuses for him when he got checked up by a lapped rider and then threw a fit like a little bitch... Call it what you want but he did put roczen down and he knows exactly what he was doing. Should KR94 checked up and saw it was coming probably? But let's see what happens the rest of the season. Barcia is still pissed he put up fastest lap at A1 and then looked like a sack of shit in the main. And who won? Oh ya KR94 sorry I forgot.
1/12/2014 7:39am
I like Barcia but it seems there is a lot of payback in store for him.
It's just most guys are just not fast enough to catch him to do the payback.
Remember this from last year?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpSD9KmJyQc
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1/12/2014 7:47am
I'm sure Barcia would never take anyone out on purpose. Not like he's done it before, right?
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1/12/2014 7:51am
Exactly why I'm not a fan of barcia. He'll ride dirty but when he gets bumped he's the first to bitch. Enjoyed watching him fall back to 5th.
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1/12/2014 8:08am
Love me some bar banging, but when you cut over the track, for no reason, just to hit someone instead of racing to the front..................stupid. And Barcia is my guy this year. Total goontard move and uneccessary. Barcia is pissing off too many riders, it will come back on him and he will figure it out about the time its too late.

Could Dungey and Brayton pull out of Villopoto's way fast enough?

And why on the last lap did Brayton not cut in on RV in the corner before the 3 3 3 section, corner was wide open and he played follow the leader, instead of driving for the win.

Oh well, its easy to be a monday morning QB when your 45 yrs old, sitting on the couch, wishing I could stay on 2 wheels through the sand section.
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1/12/2014 8:17am
Yeah Bam Bam hit him and it worked. SX has always been a bit of a contact sport like it or not. If I were in Ken's shoes I would just do the same given the chance and not say a word before hand.
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1/12/2014 8:24am
Rick Johnson is sitting on his couch laughing about what people consider dirty riding these days.
This. Sometimes I really wonder if any of you guy's have actually raced
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1/12/2014 8:25am
2thefront wrote:
I had a problem with Barcia's move on Roczen. He went out of his way, actually slowing himself down, to come up into where Roczen was...
I had a problem with Barcia's move on Roczen. He went out of his way, actually slowing himself down, to come up into where Roczen was running. I'm ok with some aggressiveness. Dungey could turn it up a bit, but not cool with Barcia. I just prefer hard racing where you pick a line different from the other dude and see who's faster. Show some skill. Anyone can just plow into another dude. It takes true skill to pass with minimal contact. Sad thing is, I think he has the skill to do it.

Personally, if I was racing with Barcia, it would be simple. If he raced me like that, every time after he'd be over the berm when he got near me. Honestly, I think that's where it'll go if he keeps trying the top guys like that.
And I thought the off season was frustrating!
What a bunch of clueless sofa surfers....it's race craft and called making the pass stick! Pull your big girl panties on KR and stick it back in on him. No need to whine on social media, it's a race and there's more to it than WFO. This is the best of the best and as we saw last night with Brayton there is crazy depth. You are not going to be in this championship by making excuses and crying over your own mistake. He gets some slack because he's a rookie, but he also already lost the points lead because he's a rookie.
That was a great pass that created more space than Barcia's even expected.
1/12/2014 8:26am
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Yeah Bam Bam hit him and it worked. SX has always been a bit of a contact sport like it or not. If I were in...
Yeah Bam Bam hit him and it worked. SX has always been a bit of a contact sport like it or not. If I were in Ken's shoes I would just do the same given the chance and not say a word before hand.
exactly

Stop the bitching and let the racing do the talking.

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