2005 YZ125 which aftermarket exhaust ?

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Hi Guys,

I just picked up an 05 YZ125 for Junior last night, it has a badly dented pipe and I want to get an aftermarket expansion chamber. Not sure which one to get FMF SST or a Fatty. I looked into having Pacific Crest fix the stocker which I most likely will but we can have a new one quicker to ride this weekend. Also, if anyone has a line on a set of SSS front forks let me know. I think I have to change the entire clamp system to convert.

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If prefer the fatty over the SST, and standard silencer not a shorty. It's a 125 so let her revvvvvvv!
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I always preferred the SST.
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kgmx856 wrote:
I always preferred the SST.
Why?
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11/20/2013 1:29pm
I ordered the Fatty Smile
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I have the Factory Fatty on mine. Boyesen Pro reeds and 2 sizes smaller on the main (390). 32:1 with Super-M and pump 100 race gas. It rips. I had the shorty on but it seemed to kinda run through the power too quick and fall off. I got a regular length powercore for it now but didn't try it yet.

Definitely get the stock pipe fixed and keep it as a spare. It's a good pipe. Seemed broader than the Fatty where the Fatty seems more punchy like it tightens up the powerband.

There is tons of info on these bikes (and the 250) in the Yamaha 2-stroke forum on Thumpertalk. Lots of guys don't like the SST because they say it causes burnt pistons. They say it gives you a false plug reading of being rich so guys keep jetting leaner and leaner to compensate until they fry their engine. Don't know, never tried it.

I tried the V-Force 3. It does make the bike more snappy or responsive but it leaked like hell and sucked air. The bike would develop a lean bog when it got hot and things expanded. If you run one, make sure you seal it up well with Moto-Seal or some other gas-proof sealant.

First thing you need to do is pull of the clutch cover. Look behind the clutch basket at the shift-stopper. Determine if it has the original 2005 part with the ball bearing or if it has been replaced with the 2007+ part with the solid roller wheel. The bearing on the 2005-2006 one frequently falls apart and the ball bearings go through the entire tranny. Get the 07 part in there. It only costs a few bucks and is easy to replace.
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FGR...where are you getting pump 100 at around here?
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I'm in AZ. At some stations they have a pump that just says "Race Gas" and 100 octane. It's brand unlabeled or sometimes it will have a VP sticker on the pump (yeah, right...).

It must be unleaded because it's sold from the pump and can be put in street bikes and cars. Not sure on the ethanol content. The pump will usually have that sticker that says "may contain up to 10% ethanol" but it's unclear if that is just there as a leftover from when some other type of gas was in that pump or whatever.

Anyway, it runs good in my 2-strokes. Nice and crisp, no detonation, and no spooge.

On my CRF450, after putting in the 13.5 piston and stage-2 cam I was getting some pinging under heavy load. Started using the 100 pump gas and cleared it right up.
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11/21/2013 11:55am Edited Date/Time 11/21/2013 11:55am
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Read this thread I started for our 06 YZ 125, helpfull info... Enjoy your new bike!

YZ 125 Tips and Tricks


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FGR01 ! Thanks for the solid info, I ordered the Fatty and glad to hear your input on Vforce, I almost bought it but holding off. I found a set of 07 YZ250f forks with triple clamps, will they fit the 05?
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11/21/2013 2:32pm Edited Date/Time 11/21/2013 2:35pm
The Fatty is the better pipe. I have an '06 and was advised against the SST by knowledgeable people as it runs too hot. Don't use the shorty silencer. The stock one is better. Be sure to check the shift stop. The new one is less than $20, and it needs to be changed. The other big thing is the gas. The manual states 95 research octane or higher and they mean it. All kinds of detonation problems with standard pump gas. The spark plug tip burns off and does damage among other things. Keep it in good condition, and don't ever get rid of it. It's a great bike.
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FGR01 ! Thanks for the solid info, I ordered the Fatty and glad to hear your input on Vforce, I almost bought it but holding off...
FGR01 ! Thanks for the solid info, I ordered the Fatty and glad to hear your input on Vforce, I almost bought it but holding off. I found a set of 07 YZ250f forks with triple clamps, will they fit the 05?
I've never done the fork swap since I have the 2006 but I think they should bolt right up. The 250F has the shorter steering stem just like the 125. Compare the overall length of the forks side by side as I've heard there might be a slight difference. Not sure about the axle and wheel spacers, but I think they are the same.

The YZ125 is known to have a prob with rusty head bearings and it seems to be related to the seal above the top bearing allowing water past. The common fix is to run the seal from the 250F. My bearings got notchy so I replaced them and got the 250F seal. It appeared to be the same as the aftermarket seal that came with my Pivot Works bearing kit and did sit down in the groove better than the stock seal, ever so slightly. No probs since.

How much does your kid weigh? Stock 250F springs are probably stiffer than 125 springs.
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FGR01 wrote:
I'm in AZ. At some stations they have a pump that just says "Race Gas" and 100 octane. It's brand unlabeled or sometimes it will have...
I'm in AZ. At some stations they have a pump that just says "Race Gas" and 100 octane. It's brand unlabeled or sometimes it will have a VP sticker on the pump (yeah, right...).

It must be unleaded because it's sold from the pump and can be put in street bikes and cars. Not sure on the ethanol content. The pump will usually have that sticker that says "may contain up to 10% ethanol" but it's unclear if that is just there as a leftover from when some other type of gas was in that pump or whatever.

Anyway, it runs good in my 2-strokes. Nice and crisp, no detonation, and no spooge.

On my CRF450, after putting in the 13.5 piston and stage-2 cam I was getting some pinging under heavy load. Started using the 100 pump gas and cleared it right up.
I need cross streets sir!
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You gonna drive from Beverly Hills to AZ to get gas ??? haha
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FGR01 ! Thanks for the solid info, I ordered the Fatty and glad to hear your input on Vforce, I almost bought it but holding off...
FGR01 ! Thanks for the solid info, I ordered the Fatty and glad to hear your input on Vforce, I almost bought it but holding off. I found a set of 07 YZ250f forks with triple clamps, will they fit the 05?
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I've never done the fork swap since I have the 2006 but I think they should bolt right up. The 250F has the shorter steering stem...
I've never done the fork swap since I have the 2006 but I think they should bolt right up. The 250F has the shorter steering stem just like the 125. Compare the overall length of the forks side by side as I've heard there might be a slight difference. Not sure about the axle and wheel spacers, but I think they are the same.

The YZ125 is known to have a prob with rusty head bearings and it seems to be related to the seal above the top bearing allowing water past. The common fix is to run the seal from the 250F. My bearings got notchy so I replaced them and got the 250F seal. It appeared to be the same as the aftermarket seal that came with my Pivot Works bearing kit and did sit down in the groove better than the stock seal, ever so slightly. No probs since.

How much does your kid weigh? Stock 250F springs are probably stiffer than 125 springs.
How much does your kid weigh? Stock 250F springs are probably stiffer than 125 springs.

125 rate is .42kg and the 250f is .44kg or .45kg depending on the year.
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FGR01 wrote:
I've never done the fork swap since I have the 2006 but I think they should bolt right up. The 250F has the shorter steering stem...
I've never done the fork swap since I have the 2006 but I think they should bolt right up. The 250F has the shorter steering stem just like the 125. Compare the overall length of the forks side by side as I've heard there might be a slight difference. Not sure about the axle and wheel spacers, but I think they are the same.

The YZ125 is known to have a prob with rusty head bearings and it seems to be related to the seal above the top bearing allowing water past. The common fix is to run the seal from the 250F. My bearings got notchy so I replaced them and got the 250F seal. It appeared to be the same as the aftermarket seal that came with my Pivot Works bearing kit and did sit down in the groove better than the stock seal, ever so slightly. No probs since.

How much does your kid weigh? Stock 250F springs are probably stiffer than 125 springs.
Thanks again,

I did buy the shift detent part as well, just got all the parts tonight. A good buddy of mine warned me of the problems with the bearing falling into the transmission and demo-ing the entire deal(his did while running the Idaho City ISDE) It trashed his entire tranny. The seller actually let me drain the oil into a glass container to check the oil to make sure there were no metal chunks in there. It was perfect. My boy is 16 years old and just shy of 170lbs. He's heavy for it but really likes riding two stroke 125 over the RMZ250 he had. I am cool with it as long as he is having fun. He said he likes the challenge of having to actually carry momentum through corners Smile and he can't get enough of the 2 stroke song! It's interesting, I know a handful of younger dudes that are switching back to 2 smokes just because they like them better and they think they are cooler. I am out of shape and kind of beat up so I stay on my 250f Smile I just missed the set of 07 250f forks and triple clamps on ebay tonight the went for $252. I was at my other sons basketball game, shoot! We have 100 octane fuel available at the pump here in Oregon as well we also have readily available non ethanol at most of the stations too.
Thanks again for all the input guys
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FGR01 wrote:
You gonna drive from Beverly Hills to AZ to get gas ??? haha
You're not on gomxracing much anymore? Thought you'd recognise my log in name Sad
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You're not on gomxracing much anymore? Thought you'd recognise my log in name Sad
Oh, sorry dude. The Beverly Hills thing threw me. No I don't get on gomx too much.

I get my race gas at the Shell at Houghton/Valencia. I used to get it at the Quik Mart at Houghton/Irvington.

According to this http://www.racegas.com/fuelfinder You can get Sunoco race gas at Tucson Raceway Park across the road from MCMP. Never tried it.
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Patrick, most 100 octane unleaded race fuels have a lot of ethanol to pump up the octane. For example, VP100 is up to 30% ethanol.

IMO, 100LL avgas is a better 2-stroke fuel option. It jets close to pump gas and provides good throttle response and contains no ethanol. I run it in all my 2-strokes.

You can get it at the Bend Muni airport for $4.99/gal. The airport is unattended after 6 and has self serve pumps after hours. If you want to try it, I'd suggest that you go after hours so you don't have to talk to any airport personnel. It's legal to use 100LL in a dirt bike, but some airport guys don't know that.
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CamP wrote:
Patrick, most 100 octane unleaded race fuels have a lot of ethanol to pump up the octane. For example, VP100 is up to 30% ethanol. IMO...
Patrick, most 100 octane unleaded race fuels have a lot of ethanol to pump up the octane. For example, VP100 is up to 30% ethanol.

IMO, 100LL avgas is a better 2-stroke fuel option. It jets close to pump gas and provides good throttle response and contains no ethanol. I run it in all my 2-strokes.

You can get it at the Bend Muni airport for $4.99/gal. The airport is unattended after 6 and has self serve pumps after hours. If you want to try it, I'd suggest that you go after hours so you don't have to talk to any airport personnel. It's legal to use 100LL in a dirt bike, but some airport guys don't know that.
Thanks Cam, I will do that. I know the quickway station on Butler Market has 100+ octane but I didn't know it had ethanol. We have 92 octane Non ethanol at the station right near my house but it sounds like that is not a good option. Airport it is ! Do you have any plans to make it back to Central Oregon during the holidays?
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11/22/2013 12:34pm Edited Date/Time 11/22/2013 12:35pm
Socket946 wrote:
You're not on gomxracing much anymore? Thought you'd recognise my log in name Sad
FGR01 wrote:
Oh, sorry dude. The Beverly Hills thing threw me. No I don't get on gomx too much. I get my race gas at the Shell at...
Oh, sorry dude. The Beverly Hills thing threw me. No I don't get on gomx too much.

I get my race gas at the Shell at Houghton/Valencia. I used to get it at the Quik Mart at Houghton/Irvington.

According to this http://www.racegas.com/fuelfinder You can get Sunoco race gas at Tucson Raceway Park across the road from MCMP. Never tried it.
Houghton and Valencia isn't far from work (By the airport) I think. So I may have to zip over there before hitting the track.

thanks for the info!

edit: NVM! Would get it on the way to the track!
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Thanks Cam, I will do that. I know the quickway station on Butler Market has 100+ octane but I didn't know it had ethanol. We have...
Thanks Cam, I will do that. I know the quickway station on Butler Market has 100+ octane but I didn't know it had ethanol. We have 92 octane Non ethanol at the station right near my house but it sounds like that is not a good option. Airport it is ! Do you have any plans to make it back to Central Oregon during the holidays?
Thinking about coming up in January. I'll let you know when I'm heading that way.

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