BTO KTM's For Sale: The Facts...

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Edited Date/Time 10/28/2013 6:56am
Went by the Butler "California" Shop, yesterday. They have a coupl'a bikes that they're finishing up...for sale. I remember seeing a thread about this...a while back...and, as usual, the Peanut Gallery had PLENTY of comments about what IS or IS NOT on the bikes; so, we are gonna straighten it out...right here, right now...

Here's what IS on the bikes I saw in Cali...for $8500:

Fresh Orange painted Frame
Really NIce and/or Fresh Plastic
FMF Pipe and Freshly re-built muffler
Galfer 270mm Tsunami Front Rotor
Galfer Tsunami Rear
Fresh Pirelli Scorpions
Raptor Ti pegs
"Pag Armor" covers (1 set was painted Orange...like the FRAME)
Akro Carbon Skid-Plate (KTM "Race" part)
"KTM SERVICE" Engine...Hello!
Fresh Talon Org sprocket
Fresh RK Chain
Brand New Stk Suspension
Brand New Stk Wheels
ODI Bars & Grips
Hinson Clutch/Stk cover
Factory Pleat Seat
Fresh BTO Graphics (Goerke on this particular bike)

Oh, and...get this...Assembled by the very same guys and the VERY SAME WAY the Team Bikes are built.

Also, they have a FRESH-BRAND-NEW '13 450 that they're putting plenty of the same goodies on; but, STOCK MOTOR. Again, $8500.

Note: These are the Last-Model-Year for the cases with a Kick-Starter "boss"...that's a Good Thing for those of you that actually do more than just Track-Riding. A Kick-start kit can be installed along w/ an XC-EXC tank and you're on your way to Kurt Caselli Land. For 2014, KTM has a Head-Light (Finally!) that works w/ the "SX I-Beam" front fender, too.

So, there ya go: A Team scoot for $8500. If ya REALLY want the "Big-Boy Suspension"? You can get that from KTM...

I'm gonna say it: These are Sooooooooooo much better than just another "Brand-New" bike. Why? It simply comes down to to how, and by whom, they're "built by". When it comes to JR and the Butler Crew? Well, Andrew rides for'em. 'Nuff said.
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burn1986 10/26/2013 11:41am
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Pics would be nice.
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TeamGreen 10/26/2013 12:03pm
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burn1986 wrote:
Pics would be nice.
In my phone & he site ain't formatting in my phone to allow the up-load...and it's a crappy photo...

Take Matt or AS29s bike, add stock wheels and susp...VOILA.

Here, let's try this...bike not finished: Skid and Muffler not installed yet; however, this IS one of the actual bikes...



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MtnBoy 10/26/2013 12:09pm
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Not sure what sticker price is on a new KTM 450, but seems like a good deal for me especially with the clutch, exhaust & brakes.

Is the motor pretty stock or pretty modified? If it were me, I'd prefer more stock, unfortunately I'm not in the market, just more curious than anything.
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TeamGreen 10/26/2013 12:29pm
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MtnBoy wrote:
Not sure what sticker price is on a new KTM 450, but seems like a good deal for me especially with the clutch, exhaust & brakes...
Not sure what sticker price is on a new KTM 450, but seems like a good deal for me especially with the clutch, exhaust & brakes.

Is the motor pretty stock or pretty modified? If it were me, I'd prefer more stock, unfortunately I'm not in the market, just more curious than anything.
The KTM service motors have all the good stuff and they're put together REALLY WELL. I'd call'em "Better" even when discussing longevity.

Remember, the power is always "tunable" via the KTM Tuner that you can get.

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MtnBoy 10/26/2013 12:52pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
The KTM service motors have all the good stuff and they're put together REALLY WELL. I'd call'em "Better" even when discussing longevity. Remember, the power is...
The KTM service motors have all the good stuff and they're put together REALLY WELL. I'd call'em "Better" even when discussing longevity.

Remember, the power is always "tunable" via the KTM Tuner that you can get.
Right on, man I'd love to be able to pick one up.

If I'm ever in the market for a "new" bike it'll definitely be a race team bike. A buddy just picked up one of Paul Whinleys Yamahas and it is awesome!
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ehr400 10/26/2013 1:46pm
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I bought a RMZ 450 from them last year and been really happy with the bike and Forrest Butler is a great guy even though I didn't get a signed Michael Byrne jersey he promised (cough cough).

Mine was Byrnes bike from 2011 and he was hurt most of the year. Mine has a pro circuit head hinson the whole 9 yards. 8k shipped to my house for a new bike aint too bad.
mynewcr250 10/26/2013 1:53pm
10/26/2013 1:53pm Edited Date/Time 10/26/2013 1:54pm
MtnBoy wrote:
Not sure what sticker price is on a new KTM 450, but seems like a good deal for me especially with the clutch, exhaust & brakes...
Not sure what sticker price is on a new KTM 450, but seems like a good deal for me especially with the clutch, exhaust & brakes.

Is the motor pretty stock or pretty modified? If it were me, I'd prefer more stock, unfortunately I'm not in the market, just more curious than anything.
Mxa did a write up on the service motors. The 350sxf package is/was $3200 and made 58hp which is 1hp more than mxas stock 450 so that should give you an idea on the bike.
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RY9MX 10/26/2013 1:56pm
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They had a couple of the bikes at Palmetto Motorsports. They certainly look trick, but I had a few questions that I could not get answered. They kept saying that the motor was "freshend", but could not tell me what that actually means. Also, what kind of hours were put on these bikes? Were these practice bikes or actual race bikes?
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burn1986 10/26/2013 1:58pm
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burn1986 wrote:
Pics would be nice.
TeamGreen wrote:
In my phone & he site ain't formatting in my phone to allow the up-load...and it's a crappy photo... Take Matt or AS29s bike, add stock...
In my phone & he site ain't formatting in my phone to allow the up-load...and it's a crappy photo...

Take Matt or AS29s bike, add stock wheels and susp...VOILA.

Here, let's try this...bike not finished: Skid and Muffler not installed yet; however, this IS one of the actual bikes...



Sweet. Thanks TG
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TeamGreen 10/26/2013 2:26pm
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They had a couple of the bikes at Palmetto Motorsports. They certainly look trick, but I had a few questions that I could not get answered...
They had a couple of the bikes at Palmetto Motorsports. They certainly look trick, but I had a few questions that I could not get answered. They kept saying that the motor was "freshend", but could not tell me what that actually means. Also, what kind of hours were put on these bikes? Were these practice bikes or actual race bikes?
The "Florida" bikes from this season should be identical to what we're discussing here. The Team doesn't let anything get too "used". Read the other post(s) about this group & the bikes they've sold.

These bikes are waaaaay beyond those $9-10K Stockers (KTM) that you could buy. That's how I see it. If you went and bought a New '14 and added the goodies...I'm guessing ...$13K+? Plus, I see the Kick-Starter/EXC-XC in disguise capability as a BIG "plus".

Manny
overthebars39 10/26/2013 2:44pm
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damn, if that bike was at my local dealer i would go pick it up right now. Closed or not, sell me that scoot NOW!
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RY9MX 10/26/2013 5:08pm
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RY9MX wrote:
They had a couple of the bikes at Palmetto Motorsports. They certainly look trick, but I had a few questions that I could not get answered...
They had a couple of the bikes at Palmetto Motorsports. They certainly look trick, but I had a few questions that I could not get answered. They kept saying that the motor was "freshend", but could not tell me what that actually means. Also, what kind of hours were put on these bikes? Were these practice bikes or actual race bikes?
TeamGreen wrote:
The "Florida" bikes from this season should be identical to what we're discussing here. The Team doesn't let anything get too "used". Read the other post(s)...
The "Florida" bikes from this season should be identical to what we're discussing here. The Team doesn't let anything get too "used". Read the other post(s) about this group & the bikes they've sold.

These bikes are waaaaay beyond those $9-10K Stockers (KTM) that you could buy. That's how I see it. If you went and bought a New '14 and added the goodies...I'm guessing ...$13K+? Plus, I see the Kick-Starter/EXC-XC in disguise capability as a BIG "plus".

Manny
How would you know what to replace wear parts with (piston, rings, etc)? And where would you get them? All I can find online is the complete factory services engine kit, not individual parts.
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Griff.747 10/26/2013 7:08pm
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I'm not gonna lie. One of those would be sweet but if it's got a true "factory" motor I wouldn't want it. They build those motors so hot they only last about 5hours. (If it is the true engine that short and Goerke run). There's a reason they rebuild the motor every weekend. But if it's the ktm service motor they would be sick. But on the other hand riding a factory built bike just for a day would be bad ass
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RY9MX wrote:
How would you know what to replace wear parts with (piston, rings, etc)? And where would you get them? All I can find online is the...
How would you know what to replace wear parts with (piston, rings, etc)? And where would you get them? All I can find online is the complete factory services engine kit, not individual parts.
Any questions you guys have feel free to message me here or send an email to jboyd405@gmail.com

I can tell you anything and everything you guys would like to know about the bikes.
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TeamGreen 10/26/2013 9:38pm
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RY9MX wrote:
How would you know what to replace wear parts with (piston, rings, etc)? And where would you get them? All I can find online is the...
How would you know what to replace wear parts with (piston, rings, etc)? And where would you get them? All I can find online is the complete factory services engine kit, not individual parts.
Jr._Boyd wrote:
Any questions you guys have feel free to message me here or send an email to jboyd405@gmail.com I can tell you anything and everything you guys...
Any questions you guys have feel free to message me here or send an email to jboyd405@gmail.com

I can tell you anything and everything you guys would like to know about the bikes.
After all this KTM chat...

And the simple fact that I recently rode all the new Katooms and LOVED the 450...I might have to look into a little...

"Trade"...

JR, you gotta Text coming!
rocketsocks26 10/27/2013 9:40am
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they r amazing bikes !
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rocketsocks26 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/10/27/34958/s1200_20131010_140253.jpg[/img]
That's jus' mean.

You got ANY idea how many people just turned their computers off & went outside...

To cry...?

Laughing

Simply BEAUTIFUL bike...

ps-I'd get the Mega-Bomb for it.

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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/10/27/34958/s1200_20131010_140253.jpg[/img]
Could you post this pic any more often? 3-4 times a day just isn't enough.

Do you even ride it, or just leave it sitting there in the woods? Maybe start your own thread, and post all your pics there? (Oh, wait, you DO have your own thread....) Maybe keep posting the same pic over and over in that thread?
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nytsmaC 10/27/2013 12:54pm
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Socket946 wrote:
Could you post this pic any more often? 3-4 times a day just isn't enough. Do you even ride it, or just leave it sitting there...
Could you post this pic any more often? 3-4 times a day just isn't enough.

Do you even ride it, or just leave it sitting there in the woods? Maybe start your own thread, and post all your pics there? (Oh, wait, you DO have your own thread....) Maybe keep posting the same pic over and over in that thread?
The guy's proud of his bike, and so he should be..

You sound jealous.
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Socket946 10/27/2013 1:31pm
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Socket946 wrote:
Could you post this pic any more often? 3-4 times a day just isn't enough. Do you even ride it, or just leave it sitting there...
Could you post this pic any more often? 3-4 times a day just isn't enough.

Do you even ride it, or just leave it sitting there in the woods? Maybe start your own thread, and post all your pics there? (Oh, wait, you DO have your own thread....) Maybe keep posting the same pic over and over in that thread?
nytsmaC wrote:
The guy's proud of his bike, and so he should be..

You sound jealous.
It's like being married to a beautiful woman. You love and appreciate her the first few years, but after awhile...you get tired of her. All of a sudden, she's still hot to everyone else, but you...so you look for other hot girls.....

his KTM is that hot wife...she was great the first few times, but now, it's worn out and tired.
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TeamGreen 10/27/2013 2:34pm
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Socket946 wrote:
Could you post this pic any more often? 3-4 times a day just isn't enough. Do you even ride it, or just leave it sitting there...
Could you post this pic any more often? 3-4 times a day just isn't enough.

Do you even ride it, or just leave it sitting there in the woods? Maybe start your own thread, and post all your pics there? (Oh, wait, you DO have your own thread....) Maybe keep posting the same pic over and over in that thread?
nytsmaC wrote:
The guy's proud of his bike, and so he should be..

You sound jealous.
Socket946 wrote:
It's like being married to a beautiful woman. You love and appreciate her the first few years, but after awhile...you get tired of her. All of...
It's like being married to a beautiful woman. You love and appreciate her the first few years, but after awhile...you get tired of her. All of a sudden, she's still hot to everyone else, but you...so you look for other hot girls.....

his KTM is that hot wife...she was great the first few times, but now, it's worn out and tired.
Nothing worn out & tired about that scoot. I see plenty of REALLY NICE Team, Factory, Test, R&D and even "Works" Bikes: that bike is still...

The Other Guys Hot Wife that EVERYONE at the Party is checking out.

I'm jus' sayin'...
rocketsocks26 10/27/2013 5:31pm
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Socket946 wow! Really/?lol! That was the first day it was out of the garage. Yes, I've posted alotta pics of it. Sorry it bother u. I will pm u next time I wanna post a pic of it.I do ride a lot, and more than likely I'm a lot faster than u.lol! By looking where your from that's what I would expect from u. A cry baby bitch. Or lucky I don't come there n make u clean it when I'm done riding it
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GuyB 10/27/2013 5:38pm
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burn1986 wrote:
Pics would be nice.
Like you'd buy a four-stroke. Grinning
rocketsocks26 10/27/2013 5:42pm
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Team green,nytsmac, thanks for the compliments.
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Socket946 wrote:
It's like being married to a beautiful woman. You love and appreciate her the first few years, but after awhile...you get tired of her. All of...
It's like being married to a beautiful woman. You love and appreciate her the first few years, but after awhile...you get tired of her. All of a sudden, she's still hot to everyone else, but you...so you look for other hot girls.....

his KTM is that hot wife...she was great the first few times, but now, it's worn out and tired.
That's a very intolerant thing to say. Appreciate what you have been blessed with.
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TeamGreen 10/27/2013 8:35pm
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Socket946 wrote:
It's like being married to a beautiful woman. You love and appreciate her the first few years, but after awhile...you get tired of her. All of...
It's like being married to a beautiful woman. You love and appreciate her the first few years, but after awhile...you get tired of her. All of a sudden, she's still hot to everyone else, but you...so you look for other hot girls.....

his KTM is that hot wife...she was great the first few times, but now, it's worn out and tired.
AS64 wrote:
That's a very intolerant thing to say. Appreciate what you have been blessed with.
Bingo

Sometimes you guys really jus' "get it right".

Nice.
mynewcr250 10/27/2013 9:52pm
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is this a post your KTM thread?

trying to figure out if i should post mine.
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GuyB 10/27/2013 9:59pm
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mynewcr250 wrote:
is this a post your KTM thread?

trying to figure out if i should post mine.
Is it a BTO Sports/KTM? If not, then no.
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burn1986 10/28/2013 6:05am
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burn1986 wrote:
Pics would be nice.
GuyB wrote:
Like you'd buy a four-stroke. Grinning
Well, I think rocketsocks's ride would make anyone think twice. Of course I would have to search for a different looking front fender.Cool

How much sweeter would it be if it was a 150 or 250sx though? Just sayin.....

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