Where again is RV?

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10/2/2013 8:12am
Nicknku wrote:
Do you really think that is a picture of poachers and not a PH with his clients? Poaching is a huge problem, you can't be more...
Do you really think that is a picture of poachers and not a PH with his clients? Poaching is a huge problem, you can't be more right about that, but this picture tells a different story. And yes way in hell that meat is feeding a deprived village.
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Sorry to confuse, I wasn't calling those pictured poachers. Was just bringing up the poaching problem, even on reserves. Are you in that picture? Or do...
Sorry to confuse, I wasn't calling those pictured poachers. Was just bringing up the poaching problem, even on reserves.

Are you in that picture? Or do you just have the actual story of what went along with killing that rhino? I was under a big assumption that they killed it for fun but by all means if you have facts that go along with that pic then feel free to spill the beans. Then I'd probably owe an apology for thinking they are just fat guys killing endangered animals for fun.
Nicknku wrote:
Where did I say they didn't kill it for fun?
"And yes way in hell that meat is feeding a deprived village"

^ I thought that implied that they killed it for a reason.
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10/2/2013 8:46am
The money goes to conservation? and the meat goes to locals? haha next joke.
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10/2/2013 8:50am
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Sorry to confuse, I wasn't calling those pictured poachers. Was just bringing up the poaching problem, even on reserves. Are you in that picture? Or do...
Sorry to confuse, I wasn't calling those pictured poachers. Was just bringing up the poaching problem, even on reserves.

Are you in that picture? Or do you just have the actual story of what went along with killing that rhino? I was under a big assumption that they killed it for fun but by all means if you have facts that go along with that pic then feel free to spill the beans. Then I'd probably owe an apology for thinking they are just fat guys killing endangered animals for fun.
Nicknku wrote:
Where did I say they didn't kill it for fun?
seth505 wrote:
"And yes way in hell that meat is feeding a deprived village"

^ I thought that implied that they killed it for a reason.
Those hunters paid a ton of money to kill that rhino for enjoyment, entertainment, pleasure, sport, whatever word you want to use and under these circumstances, yes the meat is eaten by someone. With poaching, resources are wasted. I still can't believe you would want to shoot a human for hunting an animal, that was what caught my attention to begin with. I just wanted you to know that those guys in the pic didn't just kill the rhino and leave it there and go shoot something else, there's more to it. This is my last response on this too. You're entitled to your opinion no matter how benighted it may be and I respect that.
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10/2/2013 9:26am Edited Date/Time 10/2/2013 11:54am
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Do you really think they're poachers? It's a large group of what I'd guess affluent middle aged men mugging for the camera, like it or not...
Do you really think they're poachers? It's a large group of what I'd guess affluent middle aged men mugging for the camera, like it or not it's far more likely it was a controlled hunt to harvest the old boy that was close to his last months anyway. They probably made a mint off those guys that wanted to shoot something bigger than their corporate competitor laid out last season. That meat was donated to locals, the glands exported to medical and the tendons sent to China for a couple grand.
Legal hunters support and protect our wildlife through their money and efforts. Urban and rural growth into their domain is the culprit to most demise, that and poachers. Legal's want wardens out there and their wages are paid by their hunting licenses.
They also want to pass down their sport to their children, much the way we want open lands for our own to ride on.
Yes i get your point again it's money
Money solves every problem, money makes everything alright
And do you honestly think those guys care about supporting the local economy haha
Yes they really care about the population in Africa, what great humanitarians they are

And no i don't think anything was exported to China because rhino are protected by the
Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES) and considered endangered. This listing, and a 1987 regulation, prohibits international and domestic trade in rhino products. Although the ban has been in force since 1976, the trade continues, particularly in China, South Korea, Taiwan and Thailand. The United States hasrecently imposed sanctions on Taiwan and China for their continued trade in rhino products.

If something was shipped however it was more than likely an illegal transaction, and only a few corrupt individuals profit and fill their pockets

It's an illegal market
If you want rhino horn for example you actually don't have to kill the animal, if you cut off a rhino's horn it will grow back
but poachers don't care just shooting is easier for them
It's all for the asian market, they believe it has medicinal purposes, science has already proven that is a load bull*****

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10/2/2013 11:14am
Ok, so who should I hate? First, I started hating Tomac because he crashed, then Barcia got caught in a pile up so I hated him...
Ok, so who should I hate? First, I started hating Tomac because he crashed, then Barcia got caught in a pile up so I hated him for a moment or two, then Dungey went out and put in a half hearted effort(because his plane was late and he got stuck in a coffee house in the red light district in Amsterdam), so I began hating him. Then I shifted all of my anger towards RV because he opted for surgery instead of helping the "B" team bring back the Chamberlain. Then I find out RV kills this massive Bull in Idaho and I get all warm and fuzzy about that and my hate for him dissolves and I just start thinking about how I can approach him and ask him to hook a brother up with some Elk steaks. Now, I'm totally lost and can't figure out who the hell to hate now!
A little help here.
My list of who to hate:
1) Tomac
2) Barcia
3) Dungey
4) RV
5) Airline that made Dungey late
6) Amsterdam Coffee shop/Red light district Dungey was waiting for his flight in.
7) First turn pile up that took out Barcia
8) Whoever advised Dungey not to take his PEDS
9) Belgium team for winning
I don't think it's gone out of style yet to blame Bush.

Now that I've added a Presidents name to the thread., I'd guess with the references to shooting and killing people this surely will get the NSA scanners attention!
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10/2/2013 11:58am
Nicknku wrote:
Where did I say they didn't kill it for fun?
seth505 wrote:
"And yes way in hell that meat is feeding a deprived village"

^ I thought that implied that they killed it for a reason.
Nicknku wrote:
Those hunters paid a ton of money to kill that rhino for enjoyment, entertainment, pleasure, sport, whatever word you want to use and under these circumstances...
Those hunters paid a ton of money to kill that rhino for enjoyment, entertainment, pleasure, sport, whatever word you want to use and under these circumstances, yes the meat is eaten by someone. With poaching, resources are wasted. I still can't believe you would want to shoot a human for hunting an animal, that was what caught my attention to begin with. I just wanted you to know that those guys in the pic didn't just kill the rhino and leave it there and go shoot something else, there's more to it. This is my last response on this too. You're entitled to your opinion no matter how benighted it may be and I respect that.
Don't worry I'm not going to go around shooting everyone. IF somoene funded me to go to South Africa, Zimbabwe or somewhere there are poachers then we can talk.
10/3/2013 1:22am
By this timeline,if he's good to go in Vegas,they could've had marketing out of both: Lake Elsinore, August 24 to MEC, October 19 = [i]8 Weeks[/i]...
By this timeline,if he's good to go in Vegas,they could've had marketing out of both:

Lake Elsinore, August 24
to
MEC, October 19 = 8 Weeks
MEC, October 19
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A1, January 4 = 11 weeks

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Uh... how do you figure? If he had surgery after MEC then that jacks up his SX preparation. Look, I would have liked RV to be...
Uh... how do you figure? If he had surgery after MEC then that jacks up his SX preparation. Look, I would have liked RV to be there as much or more than anyone. But, he couldn't make it like he did all the other times, get the fuck over it!
How would it do that?? After he last National he"d have a month or so to do SX prep or wharever,then do th MXdN,and a few...
How would it do that?? After he last National he"d have a month or so to do SX prep or wharever,then do th MXdN,and a few weeks later do the MEC,just like everyone else

After the MEC he has 11 weeks until A1,he could get the screws etc out,(no break,a straightforward removal) and carry on with weeks of prep

Basically if he's out swinging in Vegas after 8 weeks then you'd think he'd be more than prepared for A1 after 11 with all that other time too,afterall he's a professional athlete at the top of his game with incredible resources available to him,practice tracks,trainers,and factory tech guys etc

Those are the timeframes like I say,we know what he chose to do,it's up to him I though,yes shame he wasn't there to represent his country again,at least the scrotum slurpers can still say he's the best in the world right now despite not racing the best in the world the last 2 years-well apart from Dungey and Barcia etc Wink
So any thoughts on ther above that he could've raced both?

Again,8 weeks and good to race the MEC,or after then 11 weeks to race A1

Oh well maybe Kegums then,
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10/3/2013 5:52am
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Uh... how do you figure? If he had surgery after MEC then that jacks up his SX preparation. Look, I would have liked RV to be...
Uh... how do you figure? If he had surgery after MEC then that jacks up his SX preparation. Look, I would have liked RV to be there as much or more than anyone. But, he couldn't make it like he did all the other times, get the fuck over it!
How would it do that?? After he last National he"d have a month or so to do SX prep or wharever,then do th MXdN,and a few...
How would it do that?? After he last National he"d have a month or so to do SX prep or wharever,then do th MXdN,and a few weeks later do the MEC,just like everyone else

After the MEC he has 11 weeks until A1,he could get the screws etc out,(no break,a straightforward removal) and carry on with weeks of prep

Basically if he's out swinging in Vegas after 8 weeks then you'd think he'd be more than prepared for A1 after 11 with all that other time too,afterall he's a professional athlete at the top of his game with incredible resources available to him,practice tracks,trainers,and factory tech guys etc

Those are the timeframes like I say,we know what he chose to do,it's up to him I though,yes shame he wasn't there to represent his country again,at least the scrotum slurpers can still say he's the best in the world right now despite not racing the best in the world the last 2 years-well apart from Dungey and Barcia etc Wink
So any thoughts on ther above that he could've raced both? Again,8 weeks and good to race the MEC,or after then 11 weeks to race A1...
So any thoughts on ther above that he could've raced both?

Again,8 weeks and good to race the MEC,or after then 11 weeks to race A1

Oh well maybe Kegums then,
Do you work weekends and never take a vacation? Does your work require that you focus on your health 24/7? Do you schedule your vacations around having surgeries to fix injuries you sustained at work, so you can be %100 at work again? Do you know you have to do these things because there are younger guys moving into your department next year that want to upstage you and take your bonuses?

Maybe a little R&R is a necessary thing to keep you at your best eh?
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10/3/2013 6:40am
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Do you work weekends and never take a vacation? Does your work require that you focus on your health 24/7? Do you schedule your vacations around...
Do you work weekends and never take a vacation? Does your work require that you focus on your health 24/7? Do you schedule your vacations around having surgeries to fix injuries you sustained at work, so you can be %100 at work again? Do you know you have to do these things because there are younger guys moving into your department next year that want to upstage you and take your bonuses?

Maybe a little R&R is a necessary thing to keep you at your best eh?
No Outsider. You are wrong. These guys are "professional" racers. They don't deserve anything. They should all quit and go get real jobs if they can't live up to our expectations of them.


98% of the "fans" on here have some pretty ridiculous expectations from these guys.
Hope you can see the sarcasm in the first part. Good post.
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10/3/2013 8:11am
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/09/30/33030/s1200_IMG950484.jpg[/img] He shot this a few weeks ago in wolverine canyon near idaho falls/firth area


He shot this a few weeks ago in wolverine canyon near idaho falls/firth area
Is it true that RV made Weimer pack the meat out and Adam "Salmonilla" See-an-sir-rillo was camp cook?
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10/3/2013 8:13am
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Is it true that RV made Weimer pack the meat out and Adam "Salmonilla" See-an-sir-rillo was camp cook?
That sounds dirty...
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10/3/2013 8:21am
Would RV increase his likability with some of you if he was getting stoned on the London bridge and making sick whip videos?

Actually I heard the real reason RV didn't race in Germany was that the Rosseta Stone tapes didn't arrive in time. RV speaks hunter, not German.
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10/3/2013 8:44am Edited Date/Time 10/3/2013 9:43am
RV, NOOOOO!!!!

LOOK OUT!





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10/3/2013 9:41am
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No Outsider. You are wrong. These guys are "professional" racers. They don't deserve anything. They should all quit and go get real jobs if they can't...
No Outsider. You are wrong. These guys are "professional" racers. They don't deserve anything. They should all quit and go get real jobs if they can't live up to our expectations of them.


98% of the "fans" on here have some pretty ridiculous expectations from these guys.
Hope you can see the sarcasm in the first part. Good post.
No one can live up the fan's expectations. There are too many of them ~ expectations that is. Which it's why racers ought to be totally fine with flying the bird at some of the expectations.
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10/3/2013 11:04am
peelout wrote:
RV, NOOOOO!!!! LOOK OUT! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/10/03/33283/s1200_s1200_IMG950484small.jpg[/img]
RV, NOOOOO!!!!

LOOK OUT!





Hahahahahahah thats funny
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10/3/2013 11:31am Edited Date/Time 10/3/2013 11:38am
Barrett57 wrote:
The money goes to conservation? and the meat goes to locals? haha next joke.
I did a Safari in Zimbabwe in 2000. All booking fees and lodging expenses all went to our professional hunters.The only meat we kept was for camp meals. All the rest of the meat we took to the villagers who are not allowed to hunt and hsve no other source of meat. They literally did a dance of joy when we would pull up in the Land Cruiser with a quarter of cape buffalo in the back.

Half of the trophy fee we paid for each animal-which included baboon, warthog, zebra, sable, Impala, bushbuck, clipspringer, and cape buffalo all went 2 the local tried for projects like water supply improvements et cetera.

We had a native African government escort with us on every minute of every hunt who carried an FAL .308 semi automatic assault weapon who made sure we followed all game laws and limits.

All in all it was a very cool experience and there is no doubt that the natives benefited from our hunt both financially and physically.

And I sure wish RV had been on Team USA.
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10/3/2013 11:41am Edited Date/Time 10/3/2013 11:42am
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I did a Safari in Zimbabwe in 2000. All booking fees and lodging expenses all went to our professional hunters.The only meat we kept was for...
I did a Safari in Zimbabwe in 2000. All booking fees and lodging expenses all went to our professional hunters.The only meat we kept was for camp meals. All the rest of the meat we took to the villagers who are not allowed to hunt and hsve no other source of meat. They literally did a dance of joy when we would pull up in the Land Cruiser with a quarter of cape buffalo in the back.

Half of the trophy fee we paid for each animal-which included baboon, warthog, zebra, sable, Impala, bushbuck, clipspringer, and cape buffalo all went 2 the local tried for projects like water supply improvements et cetera.

We had a native African government escort with us on every minute of every hunt who carried an FAL .308 semi automatic assault weapon who made sure we followed all game laws and limits.

All in all it was a very cool experience and there is no doubt that the natives benefited from our hunt both financially and physically.

And I sure wish RV had been on Team USA.
When I was in Kenya all I saw was corruption corruption and more corruption. Any money we gave to charity was robbed, the people who needed it never saw it.

Your experience of Africa was obviously different from mine and I'm glad that the locals were helped, I'm not against hunting species that aren't endangered. The general theme that I got from my time in Africa was any thing given to people that needed it was robbed as soon you turned your back.
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10/3/2013 12:00pm
One of the top things on my "bucket list" is to travel to a third world country and go on a hunting trip where you hunt the indigenous people. I get all jacked up just thinking about that shit. Hunting man is the ultimate fucking adrenaline fix.
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10/3/2013 3:47pm Edited Date/Time 10/3/2013 4:13pm
Barrett57 wrote:
When I was in Kenya all I saw was corruption corruption and more corruption. Any money we gave to charity was robbed, the people who needed...
When I was in Kenya all I saw was corruption corruption and more corruption. Any money we gave to charity was robbed, the people who needed it never saw it.

Your experience of Africa was obviously different from mine and I'm glad that the locals were helped, I'm not against hunting species that aren't endangered. The general theme that I got from my time in Africa was any thing given to people that needed it was robbed as soon you turned your back.
Exactly there have been numerous reports of government officials trying to bribe park rangers to start poaching
People will try to calm their conscience by saying, oh well at least we fed the villagers
Maybe they should shoot non endangered species in order to feed the villagers
Most Game parks where hunters go to shoot are privately owned anyway,only the owners profit

Wildlife sanctuary SanWild has called on all South Africans to appeal to the minister to issue a moratorium on all legal hunting of rhino, saying there was sufficient evidence that legal hunting continued to fuel the illegal trade in rhino horn "to a great extent".

SanWild founder Louise Joubert said: "In 2009, Cites reported that the only people who profit are rhino owners and professional hunting outfits and their clients, whose main objective remains short-term financial gain."

Truth is the endangered animals like the elephant and rhino have never seen their numbers drop as fast as recent years


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RV goes elk hunting and it's his fault rhinos are killed. We lose the MXdN and it's his fault. Guys cut the track, guess who's to blame...

Heavy lies the crown...
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10/3/2013 7:36pm
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RV goes elk hunting and it's his fault rhinos are killed. We lose the MXdN and it's his fault. Guys cut the track, guess who's to...
RV goes elk hunting and it's his fault rhinos are killed. We lose the MXdN and it's his fault. Guys cut the track, guess who's to blame...

Heavy lies the crown...
You're right man.....this thread turned in a weird way.

For those of you that don't understand how we hunt in the NW ( yeah....that includes RV )........if we get a trophy rack out of the deal , the better. This goes without saying , but the bigger the rack , the more meat you get. Some of you guys that have " NO Idea " think RV just went out and plowed some big elk for the rack to put up on his wall. I will guarantee you that is NOT the case! In fact I would put a wager on that since that picture was shot....RV has had probably at least 2 -3 different nights of eating a big ol' fat Elk steak! Up here in the NW....we hunt for food!

Those douche' bags that shot the rhino.........fuck them! I don't agree with that shit at all , even if it did help support the local community and so forth. Although IF the meat really did make it's way to the local community....then I can some what stomach the thought that they shot it. If it was for just a trophy......I honestly don't know what to say. People like that make me sick.

How this thread got side tracked off into a " Look how evil RV is....he shoots endangered species "........open your fucking eyes and take a deep breath. He may be rich , but putting your own meat on the table says something!

Next time you open your mouth and stick some hamburger in.....think about where that came from. Most of the time it's from some poor cow that had a rough life , never knew freedom and was only on this earth for us to eat. You know how many Elk get to live out there entire lives out in the wilderness and die of old age.....plenty!
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10/3/2013 8:46pm
Am I still to much of a noob to post up a bear picture?
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10/3/2013 11:11pm Edited Date/Time 10/3/2013 11:18pm
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1700? Where'd you get that number chief? I live in the heart of wolf country and have been around since the first meetings were held about...
1700? Where'd you get that number chief?

I live in the heart of wolf country and have been around since the first meetings were held about reintroducing them, to being there when the 3rd legal kill in the Panhandle a few years ago was turned in to Fish and Game, to seeing 17 different wolves over several different occasions last year. There is a hell of a lot more than 1,700, do I think they need to be exterminated? No. But managed like other game, yes.

Nothing pisses me off more than uneducated and unaffected dumb fucks who throw in their opinion on wolves, until you've lived it and been affected by it, you have no fucking clue.

Lots of dumbfucks around here these days.

Moto guys are douches, I'm off to read about ISDE where everyone enjoys supporting our guys!

Fuck you dipshits who like wolves, I'm out.
Couldn't have said it any better myself. Wink

Unfortunately, the liberal greenies in this state will run our finally growing elk numbers further into the ground then Idaho could ever imagine. I absolutely wish eastern WA could either become its own state or be adopted by Idaho....... The mentality on the wet side of the state is frightening.
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10/3/2013 11:47pm Edited Date/Time 10/3/2013 11:49pm
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RV goes elk hunting and it's his fault rhinos are killed. We lose the MXdN and it's his fault. Guys cut the track, guess who's to...
RV goes elk hunting and it's his fault rhinos are killed. We lose the MXdN and it's his fault. Guys cut the track, guess who's to blame...

Heavy lies the crown...
Haha your funny ,where did I say that?
Please do tell, I don,t think I even used RV 's name once in this thread
I was addressing the people that commented that you can justify anything as long as you throw money at it
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10/4/2013 3:45am
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RV goes elk hunting and it's his fault rhinos are killed. We lose the MXdN and it's his fault. Guys cut the track, guess who's to...
RV goes elk hunting and it's his fault rhinos are killed. We lose the MXdN and it's his fault. Guys cut the track, guess who's to blame...

Heavy lies the crown...
kev472 wrote:
Haha your funny ,where did I say that? Please do tell, I don,t think I even used RV 's name once in this thread I was...
Haha your funny ,where did I say that?
Please do tell, I don,t think I even used RV 's name once in this thread
I was addressing the people that commented that you can justify anything as long as you throw money at it
Um.. the thread title maybe? Smile

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