'09 Hondas?

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TheWeapon wrote:
Anyone heard when they will be released? Spy pics?

I have heard a few whispers about EFI on the 450....
Honda does not OWN Showa. This is a myth.
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Factoryphoto 8/21/2008 8:33am
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Lorroco ran kyb on his honda.. Im pretty sure Paul Carpenter has been running kyb stuff all year with a few others.
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Lightning78 8/21/2008 8:56am
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Really they don't? I always heard they did or at least a considerable share of the company...... I read somewhere a while back in a moto mag that they have a 25% stake in Suzuki as well
rockcrawlerdude 8/21/2008 9:12am
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it should be KYB in the front and showa on the back. Calimero said it was awesome on our flemish message board, if it was crap...
it should be KYB in the front and showa on the back.

Calimero said it was awesome on our flemish message board, if it was crap he would say it too lol Laughing
and dont forget Honda strives to be the best ALWAYS... and currently the KYB forks with the ssv valving are the best out there right now.....

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TheWeapon wrote:
Anyone heard when they will be released? Spy pics?

I have heard a few whispers about EFI on the 450....
I had one of those '97 CR250's too. 100% agree: Awesome motor, and peculiar handling that resulted in high sides or front end wash-outs with NO warning.
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freeh 8/21/2008 9:43am
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TheWeapon wrote:
Anyone heard when they will be released? Spy pics?

I have heard a few whispers about EFI on the 450....
ProMed wrote:
Honda does not OWN Showa. This is a myth.
Honda owns 30% of Showa. This is a fact. The current president of Showa is from Honda. This is also a fact. Honda will use ______ on their bikes next year.
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While we are at it, can we get an air filter access like the CRF 250/450 X bikes. It would make life so much easier. I was going to go with the Enzo air bladders on my next Honda so I wouldn't mind the switch to KYB since they were used with the bladders originally. EFI would be nice.
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If it gets "The Button" i'll be purchasing one.
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FLmxer wrote:
While we are at it, can we get an air filter access like the CRF 250/450 X bikes. It would make life so much easier. I...
While we are at it, can we get an air filter access like the CRF 250/450 X bikes. It would make life so much easier. I was going to go with the Enzo air bladders on my next Honda so I wouldn't mind the switch to KYB since they were used with the bladders originally. EFI would be nice.
those were the older kyb's. used enzo's and aircells on T.C forks and wasn't impressed as i was on my 04 yz
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mxmat813 wrote:
This has been a hot topic on thumpertalk http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=664572 I've ridden Honda's for a long time now but I'm thinking of switching over to Kawi's for...
This has been a hot topic on thumpertalk

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=664572

I've ridden Honda's for a long time now but I'm thinking of switching over to Kawi's for next year. I'm leaving alot of contingency money on the table by riding red, plus the kawasaki's look pretty sweet next year. I'm kinda wondering if honda isn't hurting there sales by waiting so long to release information on the 09's.......
I switched 2 years ago....
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FLmxer wrote:
Wasn't the 97 - 98 CR 250 voted the most dangerous design due to the super rigid POS frame that would vibrate so hard you would...
Wasn't the 97 - 98 CR 250 voted the most dangerous design due to the super rigid POS frame that would vibrate so hard you would get arm pump before the gate dropped. It had a strong motor but the high-siding POS caused more injuries than all the other brands combined. A few pro's would not even ride it especially MC. He said that bike would end his career. You could case a jump over and over on another brand but case that same jump on one of those two bikes and break an ankle or shatter your heels. I hope it is not like those years bike. I can't wait to see the new Honda. I will finaly be healed enough to ride by then and might want to get back on a fresh new bike.
No surprise that a KTM was what actually ended MC's career though!
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I've seen the pics of the honda 450, that is the ''changed bike'', plastic looks a bit like kawasaki, exhaust starts on the egnition side then turns like a 250 2stroke to the other site, engine is a lot lighter and there's something special whit the rear shock, kyb's forks...
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Yamaha336 8/28/2008 6:12am
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TheWeapon wrote:
Anyone heard when they will be released? Spy pics?

I have heard a few whispers about EFI on the 450....
Both bikes got EFI this year.
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Yamaha336 8/28/2008 6:23am
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Here is a spy photo. This bike has Showa suspension and EFI.
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What is so funny?
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oh man, thats rich...

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CONTINGENCY is my main question. I know the bike will be solid, but RED needs to better support GRASSROOTS RACING.
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Where is RM250GUY when you need him?
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Lightning78 8/28/2008 8:53am
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Someone posted this over at Bushwood.......

From a reliable source:
New frame with subframe mounted very high on main frame. Sharp angle.
EFI with handheld plugin tuner. Ability to tune fuel and ignition.
New muffler with 50mm outlet. Looks loud but is quiet. Long head pipe.
New red plastics with white highlights.
White large CRF letters on red seat.
New design swingarm.
New engine cases. Red in colour.
Two models will be available. Crf450R and a CRF450P.
CRF450P will have upgraded Hubs, Rims, Footpegs, Brake lines, Graphics( number plate backgrounds), adjustable triple clamps (head angle)
Upgraded bars as well as a upgraded spares kit including suspension parts and race tune manual.
Bar mounted hour meter with laptimer button near left hand grip.
Black CRF has been discontinued.


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mxracer32 8/28/2008 9:02am
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lightning, that would be awesome...but i just dont see that happening. it went sour for me when i read 'crf450p'

id love to be proven wrong though!
J.Saunders144 8/28/2008 10:37am
8/28/2008 10:37am
i would be at the dealership 2mor if the 450p is the real deal
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J.Saunders144 wrote:
i would be at the dealership 2mor if the 450p is the real deal
It will be nearly $10K.
rockcrawlerdude 8/28/2008 10:48am
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J.Saunders144 wrote:
i would be at the dealership 2mor if the 450p is the real deal
WORCSRacer wrote:
It will be nearly $10K.
well if the KTM Wey replica ( not just decals folks alot of upgrades) is $15000 the honda will probably be at least $13000... but it will be the baddest "stock" bike in the world...
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J.Saunders144 wrote:
i would be at the dealership 2mor if the 450p is the real deal
WORCSRacer wrote:
It will be nearly $10K.
10K is cheap for a bike that you can race stock at the National level for the next 2 years.
They will sell out quickly. Better get a deposit down if you want one.

I have a little over 200 hours on my 05 CRF450. A couple rebuilds and suspension maintenance is all i have done. Performs the same as new. Awesome bikes.
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Lightning78 wrote:
Someone posted this over at Bushwood....... From a reliable source: New frame with subframe mounted very high on main frame. Sharp angle. EFI with handheld plugin...
Someone posted this over at Bushwood.......

From a reliable source:
New frame with subframe mounted very high on main frame. Sharp angle.
EFI with handheld plugin tuner. Ability to tune fuel and ignition.
New muffler with 50mm outlet. Looks loud but is quiet. Long head pipe.
New red plastics with white highlights.
White large CRF letters on red seat.
New design swingarm.
New engine cases. Red in colour.
Two models will be available. Crf450R and a CRF450P.
CRF450P will have upgraded Hubs, Rims, Footpegs, Brake lines, Graphics( number plate backgrounds), adjustable triple clamps (head angle)
Upgraded bars as well as a upgraded spares kit including suspension parts and race tune manual.
Bar mounted hour meter with laptimer button near left hand grip.
Black CRF has been discontinued.


Most of it is true.

New engine cases. Red in colour: not true. silver look to it,

white rear fender on the pic i saw. red front.

The bike looked Bad ass for sure...


sry no more details to give,


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Lightning78 wrote:
Someone posted this over at Bushwood....... From a reliable source: New frame with subframe mounted very high on main frame. Sharp angle. EFI with handheld plugin...
Someone posted this over at Bushwood.......

From a reliable source:
New frame with subframe mounted very high on main frame. Sharp angle.
EFI with handheld plugin tuner. Ability to tune fuel and ignition.
New muffler with 50mm outlet. Looks loud but is quiet. Long head pipe.
New red plastics with white highlights.
White large CRF letters on red seat.
New design swingarm.
New engine cases. Red in colour.
Two models will be available. Crf450R and a CRF450P.
CRF450P will have upgraded Hubs, Rims, Footpegs, Brake lines, Graphics( number plate backgrounds), adjustable triple clamps (head angle)
Upgraded bars as well as a upgraded spares kit including suspension parts and race tune manual.
Bar mounted hour meter with laptimer button near left hand grip.
Black CRF has been discontinued.


Tyting wrote:
Most of it is true. New engine cases. Red in colour: not true. silver look to it, white rear fender on the pic i saw. red...
Most of it is true.

New engine cases. Red in colour: not true. silver look to it,

white rear fender on the pic i saw. red front.

The bike looked Bad ass for sure...


sry no more details to give,


Where are these pics NOOB????
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rockcrawlerdude wrote:
well if the KTM Wey replica ( not just decals folks alot of upgrades) is $15000 the honda will probably be at least $13000... but it...
well if the KTM Wey replica ( not just decals folks alot of upgrades) is $15000 the honda will probably be at least $13000... but it will be the baddest "stock" bike in the world...
Unless the Honda comes with "works" suspension we aren't talking apples to apples. I was surprised when the Wey Replica came out because it actually was "works" WP suspension.

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