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6/3/2013 8:58am
If you listen to the Matthes interview with Stewart, he said THAT pass on MA was a "Stewey Moment"!! Haha!

James is pretty damned honest and hard on himself lately. When he sucked...he'll tell you he sucked, with no excuses. He said he was flat sucking at Muddy Creek, and that he would have beaten himself on a 2-stroke 125 back in the day. He said the track had him totally confused and not comfortable. He couldn't get into a groove.
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6/3/2013 9:04am
I know everyone raves about the Suzuki but what I see is a bike that consistently oversteers exiting turns for several top Pros. RV2 rarely gets as sideways exiting turns hard and he is on it just as much if not more.
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6/3/2013 9:41am
Riding around is one thing, but getting passed by Allessi is another. It seemed to temporarily piss him off.
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Im glad hes staying healthy and finishing races.

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6/3/2013 9:59am
Funny when I was watching the race i thought the same thing as the OP!.. Here is a little bit of the old Stewart.

I wonder if not getting surgery will haunt Stewart? I've never heard of an athlete not fixing their ACL before. I find myself rooting for Stewart more and more as the time goes on. I guess it’s his underdog status (weird to say that).
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Holy crap! I knew that was an aggressive scrub......that pic there definitely shows it!

Good for James man. I don't care that he isn't winning right now.....the dude is showing patience and is finishing motos. I just want to see him finish the season strong and come into SX fit and ready.
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Funny when I was watching the race i thought the same thing as the OP!.. Here is a little bit of the old Stewart. I wonder...
Funny when I was watching the race i thought the same thing as the OP!.. Here is a little bit of the old Stewart.

I wonder if not getting surgery will haunt Stewart? I've never heard of an athlete not fixing their ACL before. I find myself rooting for Stewart more and more as the time goes on. I guess it’s his underdog status (weird to say that).
Stewart himself has said that if he does not do more damage to the knee he will not get it fixed until he is done with his racing career. That is a big contradiction to all the people blaming the knee for his results.

RV basically did the same thing when he was young. He hurt the knee further in 2009 and had to pull out after Hangtown to get it fixed.
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Stewart himself has said that if he does not do more damage to the knee he will not get it fixed until he is done with...
Stewart himself has said that if he does not do more damage to the knee he will not get it fixed until he is done with his racing career. That is a big contradiction to all the people blaming the knee for his results.

RV basically did the same thing when he was young. He hurt the knee further in 2009 and had to pull out after Hangtown to get it fixed.
Understand if he doesnt do more damage, he won't get it fixed until later. But how about the damage already done? It has to affect him. Look at the NFL/NBA/MLB. Those guys get an ACL tear, they get it fixed immediatly. Heck look at Derick Rose, he missed a whole year with his recovery.
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6/3/2013 10:34am
From Racerx's Open Mic:

Chase setup all day you feel?

I don’t know if I chased setup. I think it was 25 percent setup, 75 percent me. It was just from the first practice there was something about this track that I was completely lost. I couldn’t get in my corners. I just really couldn’t do anything. It was frustrating for sure. It was frustrating coming back and telling the team that. ‘I’m like, dude, I just didn’t have it. Seriously.’



His point about getting into corners is something that I even noticed in SX and I also noticed on Saturday. 17th in practice and passed and beaten bad by Mike Alessi in the second moto...............something ain't right. Maybe it's the bike, maybe it's the knee, maybe it's his desire, or maybe hit's his fitness level??? Whatever it is something ain't right. The disappointing part is that I heard more people making supporting comments about him before the race than any other rider. Even though the racing was good I'm sure that every James Stewart fan was more than a little disappointed on the drive home. I would say more, but I'll leave it at that.


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Understand if he doesnt do more damage, he won't get it fixed until later. But how about the damage already done? It has to affect him...
Understand if he doesnt do more damage, he won't get it fixed until later. But how about the damage already done? It has to affect him. Look at the NFL/NBA/MLB. Those guys get an ACL tear, they get it fixed immediatly. Heck look at Derick Rose, he missed a whole year with his recovery.
Moto and basketball/football are a totally different situation. Those guys need to run and jump and change direction constantly to do their job. Riding a mx bike requires a different physical skill set.

So far Stewart has not seen the need to get it fixed so I guess he feels he can cope with it.
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6/3/2013 10:47am
DownSouth wrote:
Stewart himself has said that if he does not do more damage to the knee he will not get it fixed until he is done with...
Stewart himself has said that if he does not do more damage to the knee he will not get it fixed until he is done with his racing career. That is a big contradiction to all the people blaming the knee for his results.

RV basically did the same thing when he was young. He hurt the knee further in 2009 and had to pull out after Hangtown to get it fixed.
Understand if he doesnt do more damage, he won't get it fixed until later. But how about the damage already done? It has to affect him...
Understand if he doesnt do more damage, he won't get it fixed until later. But how about the damage already done? It has to affect him. Look at the NFL/NBA/MLB. Those guys get an ACL tear, they get it fixed immediatly. Heck look at Derick Rose, he missed a whole year with his recovery.
I agree with you. I think that it would have to affect him also, since he said it is a completely torn ACL. I think he knows that if he mentions it holding him back, people would just say he is making excuses. That being said, I'm not sure he could run the 2 Ryans' pace consistently anyway. JMO
6/3/2013 10:48am
TV doesn't do any form of racing justice. The speed these guys are carrying is amazing. Stewart didn't look aggressive but at the same time it looked like nothing more than an off day. Alessi is recapturing his confidence and ran a good moto. He also still looks like he was holding back from attacking the corners like he used to. RV is not slowing down one bit and he is constantly searching for and finding a faster line throughout the whole moto. Stewart can still run RV's pace. Alessi can run Barcia's pace. It's all about confidence.
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6/3/2013 10:57am
DownSouth wrote:
Stewart himself has said that if he does not do more damage to the knee he will not get it fixed until he is done with...
Stewart himself has said that if he does not do more damage to the knee he will not get it fixed until he is done with his racing career. That is a big contradiction to all the people blaming the knee for his results.

RV basically did the same thing when he was young. He hurt the knee further in 2009 and had to pull out after Hangtown to get it fixed.
Understand if he doesnt do more damage, he won't get it fixed until later. But how about the damage already done? It has to affect him...
Understand if he doesnt do more damage, he won't get it fixed until later. But how about the damage already done? It has to affect him. Look at the NFL/NBA/MLB. Those guys get an ACL tear, they get it fixed immediatly. Heck look at Derick Rose, he missed a whole year with his recovery.
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I agree with you. I think that it would have to affect him also, since he said it is a completely torn ACL. I think he...
I agree with you. I think that it would have to affect him also, since he said it is a completely torn ACL. I think he knows that if he mentions it holding him back, people would just say he is making excuses. That being said, I'm not sure he could run the 2 Ryans' pace consistently anyway. JMO
Did he say it was completely torn? I assumed it was a partial. Sports science being what it is today I can see a guy riding with a complete tear if his knee was still stable from a muscular standpoint. It is a matter of getting the swelling and pain back out of it, getting the bracing right and learning to trust it again mentally. I'll take this version of James because he is to near the end of his career to be taking off another 6 months.
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6/3/2013 12:02pm
KAB wrote:
The wife screamed thinking he was crashing when he first took off the jump face. Then she was shocked and amazed and made me rewind it...
The wife screamed thinking he was crashing when he first took off the jump face. Then she was shocked and amazed and made me rewind it and watch it over again a few times. She has been watching motocross with me for 5 years so she's no noob. I told her that Stewart was the inventor and master of the scrub. Simply amazing! Best scrub I/we've seen in a long time!
The inventor of the scrub? LOL! You don't know shit about motocross...

http://www.racerxvt.com/article/the-evolution-of-style

Take a look at the gear and the bike. A jofa? Drum brakes? Got to be early 80's at the latest, and the scrub was well advanced already. I even had a video of Broc Glover back in the day where he explained the scrub. You Bubba nut swingers are hilarious.
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wes79v wrote:
The inventor of the scrub? LOL! You don't know shit about motocross... http://www.racerxvt.com/article/the-evolution-of-style Take a look at the gear and the bike. A jofa? Drum brakes...
The inventor of the scrub? LOL! You don't know shit about motocross...

http://www.racerxvt.com/article/the-evolution-of-style

Take a look at the gear and the bike. A jofa? Drum brakes? Got to be early 80's at the latest, and the scrub was well advanced already. I even had a video of Broc Glover back in the day where he explained the scrub. You Bubba nut swingers are hilarious.
Ping,
Some subjects may seem petty or trivial, but I cannot seem to let this one go. I even tried Lunesta to keep from thinking about this, but the drug's high price is keeping me up at night. Here it is: James Stewart did invent the scrub… Jo Jo Keller did not. What Jo Jo is doing is a cross up. I did many of these in the late ‘70's. Why is it a cross up? His wheel is pointing up, not down. I would bet anything a left turn was right after that jump in that famous picture of him. When you scrub you point the wheel down to keep the inertia going downward. The Jo Jo picture is not the first scrub caught on film, it is just a very cool cross up. I respect your opinion very much. If you disagree with me I will let this go…maybe.
Joe Mangiameli
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Dear Joe,
You know, I didn’t give it much thought when they said that JoJo’s jump was the first scrub, but you are exactly right; he is just doing a cool cross up. The intention of a “scrub” is to keep your trajectory moving forward rather than up and you do that by turning the wheel down as you leave the ground, not up. Well, I’m glad we got that all cleared up and you can go ahead and get some rest tonight, Joe. While most of America has been losing sleep over their jobs, mortgages, debt, economy or national disasters, you are getting hooked on pills because a few old-school motocross guys remember one of their local heroes in a candy coated haze and gave him credit for a move clearly perfected by James Stewart. Have I nailed the pertinent facts as you see them? Dude…get some sleep.
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6/3/2013 12:42pm
That is badass ass!! If anything it shows he is comfortable & confident on that Suzuki. Don't remember see a pic like that when he was on blue.
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kongols wrote:
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jeffro503 wrote:
Holy crap! I knew that was an aggressive scrub......that pic there definitely shows it! Good for James man. I don't care that he isn't winning right...
Holy crap! I knew that was an aggressive scrub......that pic there definitely shows it!

Good for James man. I don't care that he isn't winning right now.....the dude is showing patience and is finishing motos. I just want to see him finish the season strong and come into SX fit and ready.
Wasn't that taken when he was trying to keep up with Mike Alessi............ Come on James, that shit isn't supposed to happen.

At his age if he isn't doing more than just riding he doesn't have a chance against guys that are doing more than just riding.


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Stewart has not lost his speed. He has lost his desire and love for what he does for a living. If he would get his head back into the game he would win a lot even with a bad knee. He has done it before. His interviews show something has changed. If he wanted to he would dominate RV and RD. JS7 is more talented and smarter than both RD and RV.


We now have to hope Bam Bam brings his aggressive style every weekend. Would love to see Barcia slam both RV and RD. they would probably start to cry and complain.
6/3/2013 3:57pm
KAB wrote:
The wife screamed thinking he was crashing when he first took off the jump face. Then she was shocked and amazed and made me rewind it...
The wife screamed thinking he was crashing when he first took off the jump face. Then she was shocked and amazed and made me rewind it and watch it over again a few times. She has been watching motocross with me for 5 years so she's no noob. I told her that Stewart was the inventor and master of the scrub. Simply amazing! Best scrub I/we've seen in a long time!
wes79v wrote:
The inventor of the scrub? LOL! You don't know shit about motocross... http://www.racerxvt.com/article/the-evolution-of-style Take a look at the gear and the bike. A jofa? Drum brakes...
The inventor of the scrub? LOL! You don't know shit about motocross...

http://www.racerxvt.com/article/the-evolution-of-style

Take a look at the gear and the bike. A jofa? Drum brakes? Got to be early 80's at the latest, and the scrub was well advanced already. I even had a video of Broc Glover back in the day where he explained the scrub. You Bubba nut swingers are hilarious.
STFU Noob.

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Stewart has not lost his speed. He has lost his desire and love for what he does for a living. If he would get his head...
Stewart has not lost his speed. He has lost his desire and love for what he does for a living. If he would get his head back into the game he would win a lot even with a bad knee. He has done it before. His interviews show something has changed. If he wanted to he would dominate RV and RD. JS7 is more talented and smarter than both RD and RV.


We now have to hope Bam Bam brings his aggressive style every weekend. Would love to see Barcia slam both RV and RD. they would probably start to cry and complain.
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6/3/2013 4:15pm Edited Date/Time 6/3/2013 4:20pm
KAB wrote:
The wife screamed thinking he was crashing when he first took off the jump face. Then she was shocked and amazed and made me rewind it...
The wife screamed thinking he was crashing when he first took off the jump face. Then she was shocked and amazed and made me rewind it and watch it over again a few times. She has been watching motocross with me for 5 years so she's no noob. I told her that Stewart was the inventor and master of the scrub. Simply amazing! Best scrub I/we've seen in a long time!
wes79v wrote:
The inventor of the scrub? LOL! You don't know shit about motocross... http://www.racerxvt.com/article/the-evolution-of-style Take a look at the gear and the bike. A jofa? Drum brakes...
The inventor of the scrub? LOL! You don't know shit about motocross...

http://www.racerxvt.com/article/the-evolution-of-style

Take a look at the gear and the bike. A jofa? Drum brakes? Got to be early 80's at the latest, and the scrub was well advanced already. I even had a video of Broc Glover back in the day where he explained the scrub. You Bubba nut swingers are hilarious.
STFU Noob.

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Noob! LOL! Bitch, I was riding moto when your daddy was shitting his diapers. Ping is hardly an authority on MX history, so to hold up a guy who wasn't even born when that photo was taken as the response to evidence to the contrary is ignorant at best. In fact, in re-reading it, he's mocking the guy. Unless you were there when the photo was taken, it's only an assumption that the jump didn't begin with the wheel turned down. Or are you going to argue that present day scrubs land with the wheel continuing to point down? No, they don't do they they turn it back the opposite direction to bring it back around. Sorry to burst your Bubba nut bubble, but he didn't invent anything, he took what was already out there and pushed it much further. He isn't superman, he doesn't do things others can't on a bike, he just takes bigger risks and and ultimately pays the price for them. It's laughable how you goons have gone from crowing about his domination to ejaculating over little flashes of what he used to be while he's racing for 5th. His pass on Alessi lasted what? 5 turns? Not even a lap, and then Mike waved bye bye to him and his brief dance with faded glory. Nice try "noob". Keep applauding those rare moments when he can do something like that. I'm sure it will be equally exciting for you when he's doing it back in 10th. Don't forget a towel.
6/3/2013 4:30pm
wes79v wrote:
The inventor of the scrub? LOL! You don't know shit about motocross... http://www.racerxvt.com/article/the-evolution-of-style Take a look at the gear and the bike. A jofa? Drum brakes...
The inventor of the scrub? LOL! You don't know shit about motocross...

http://www.racerxvt.com/article/the-evolution-of-style

Take a look at the gear and the bike. A jofa? Drum brakes? Got to be early 80's at the latest, and the scrub was well advanced already. I even had a video of Broc Glover back in the day where he explained the scrub. You Bubba nut swingers are hilarious.
STFU Noob.

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wes79v wrote:
Noob! LOL! Bitch, I was riding moto when your daddy was shitting his diapers. Ping is hardly an authority on MX history, so to hold up...
Noob! LOL! Bitch, I was riding moto when your daddy was shitting his diapers. Ping is hardly an authority on MX history, so to hold up a guy who wasn't even born when that photo was taken as the response to evidence to the contrary is ignorant at best. In fact, in re-reading it, he's mocking the guy. Unless you were there when the photo was taken, it's only an assumption that the jump didn't begin with the wheel turned down. Or are you going to argue that present day scrubs land with the wheel continuing to point down? No, they don't do they they turn it back the opposite direction to bring it back around. Sorry to burst your Bubba nut bubble, but he didn't invent anything, he took what was already out there and pushed it much further. He isn't superman, he doesn't do things others can't on a bike, he just takes bigger risks and and ultimately pays the price for them. It's laughable how you goons have gone from crowing about his domination to ejaculating over little flashes of what he used to be while he's racing for 5th. His pass on Alessi lasted what? 5 turns? Not even a lap, and then Mike waved bye bye to him and his brief dance with faded glory. Nice try "noob". Keep applauding those rare moments when he can do something like that. I'm sure it will be equally exciting for you when he's doing it back in 10th. Don't forget a towel.
Bravo, hope you feel better about yourself.
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STFU Noob.

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wes79v wrote:
Noob! LOL! Bitch, I was riding moto when your daddy was shitting his diapers. Ping is hardly an authority on MX history, so to hold up...
Noob! LOL! Bitch, I was riding moto when your daddy was shitting his diapers. Ping is hardly an authority on MX history, so to hold up a guy who wasn't even born when that photo was taken as the response to evidence to the contrary is ignorant at best. In fact, in re-reading it, he's mocking the guy. Unless you were there when the photo was taken, it's only an assumption that the jump didn't begin with the wheel turned down. Or are you going to argue that present day scrubs land with the wheel continuing to point down? No, they don't do they they turn it back the opposite direction to bring it back around. Sorry to burst your Bubba nut bubble, but he didn't invent anything, he took what was already out there and pushed it much further. He isn't superman, he doesn't do things others can't on a bike, he just takes bigger risks and and ultimately pays the price for them. It's laughable how you goons have gone from crowing about his domination to ejaculating over little flashes of what he used to be while he's racing for 5th. His pass on Alessi lasted what? 5 turns? Not even a lap, and then Mike waved bye bye to him and his brief dance with faded glory. Nice try "noob". Keep applauding those rare moments when he can do something like that. I'm sure it will be equally exciting for you when he's doing it back in 10th. Don't forget a towel.
Bravo, hope you feel better about yourself.
Best you got Travis? Sorry it made you feel inadequate.
6/3/2013 4:58pm
wes79v wrote:
Noob! LOL! Bitch, I was riding moto when your daddy was shitting his diapers. Ping is hardly an authority on MX history, so to hold up...
Noob! LOL! Bitch, I was riding moto when your daddy was shitting his diapers. Ping is hardly an authority on MX history, so to hold up a guy who wasn't even born when that photo was taken as the response to evidence to the contrary is ignorant at best. In fact, in re-reading it, he's mocking the guy. Unless you were there when the photo was taken, it's only an assumption that the jump didn't begin with the wheel turned down. Or are you going to argue that present day scrubs land with the wheel continuing to point down? No, they don't do they they turn it back the opposite direction to bring it back around. Sorry to burst your Bubba nut bubble, but he didn't invent anything, he took what was already out there and pushed it much further. He isn't superman, he doesn't do things others can't on a bike, he just takes bigger risks and and ultimately pays the price for them. It's laughable how you goons have gone from crowing about his domination to ejaculating over little flashes of what he used to be while he's racing for 5th. His pass on Alessi lasted what? 5 turns? Not even a lap, and then Mike waved bye bye to him and his brief dance with faded glory. Nice try "noob". Keep applauding those rare moments when he can do something like that. I'm sure it will be equally exciting for you when he's doing it back in 10th. Don't forget a towel.
Bravo, hope you feel better about yourself.
wes79v wrote:
Best you got Travis? Sorry it made you feel inadequate.
lol.
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6/3/2013 5:56pm
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I know everyone raves about the Suzuki but what I see is a bike that consistently oversteers exiting turns for several top Pros. RV2 rarely gets...
I know everyone raves about the Suzuki but what I see is a bike that consistently oversteers exiting turns for several top Pros. RV2 rarely gets as sideways exiting turns hard and he is on it just as much if not more.
thats what i saw, his bike handled terrible, see when alessi passed him on the inside, looked like stewarts bike kind of bounced him the the outside of the corner.
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6/3/2013 6:29pm
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the Bubba of old. Was cool to see him scrub it and almost get by the Hype. Unfortunately, I think he's going over the hill. :(...
the Bubba of old. Was cool to see him scrub it and almost get by the Hype. Unfortunately, I think he's going over the hill. Sad It was some good years from that kid.
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Our family held a moment of silence.Sad
I got goose bumps and thought Bubba was going to put an ass-whooping on The Hype.

The JS7 we see now is definitely not the "2 stroke Bubba" we all remember !
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wes79v wrote:
Noob! LOL! Bitch, I was riding moto when your daddy was shitting his diapers. Ping is hardly an authority on MX history, so to hold up...
Noob! LOL! Bitch, I was riding moto when your daddy was shitting his diapers. Ping is hardly an authority on MX history, so to hold up a guy who wasn't even born when that photo was taken as the response to evidence to the contrary is ignorant at best. In fact, in re-reading it, he's mocking the guy. Unless you were there when the photo was taken, it's only an assumption that the jump didn't begin with the wheel turned down. Or are you going to argue that present day scrubs land with the wheel continuing to point down? No, they don't do they they turn it back the opposite direction to bring it back around. Sorry to burst your Bubba nut bubble, but he didn't invent anything, he took what was already out there and pushed it much further. He isn't superman, he doesn't do things others can't on a bike, he just takes bigger risks and and ultimately pays the price for them. It's laughable how you goons have gone from crowing about his domination to ejaculating over little flashes of what he used to be while he's racing for 5th. His pass on Alessi lasted what? 5 turns? Not even a lap, and then Mike waved bye bye to him and his brief dance with faded glory. Nice try "noob". Keep applauding those rare moments when he can do something like that. I'm sure it will be equally exciting for you when he's doing it back in 10th. Don't forget a towel.
Bravo, hope you feel better about yourself.
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Best you got Travis? Sorry it made you feel inadequate.
Internet tough guy comes out to play. We're all very proud of you.

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