Muddy Creek was Awesome!

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NV825 6/2/2013 12:20pm
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I thought the track was cool from viewing it on TV. A little narrow in spots but there was still passing opportunities. People complaining about bumps, on a motocross track? GTFO with that nonsense. Bumps, heat, dust, mud, ruts is motocross.
scrubbin627 6/2/2013 12:21pm
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I thought the track looked awesome on tv. Good dirt and great racing, I might have to ride down next year.
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mx317 6/2/2013 12:24pm
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I rode on Friday practice and at this point I liked the old layout better. I may grow to like it after they work out the kinks.
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FLmxer 6/2/2013 12:28pm
6/2/2013 12:28pm Edited Date/Time 6/2/2013 12:34pm
The motocross track was way too bumpy. Jk Lol Remember Gatorback back in the day? The whole track was like slamming into a foot or two deep undercut ledge/curb every five feet on the whole track.

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LS1guy 6/2/2013 12:37pm
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level wrote:
I don't know what you guys are talking about. That track was sketchy, dry and so full of bumps there wasn't a smooth part in the...
I don't know what you guys are talking about. That track was sketchy, dry and so full of bumps there wasn't a smooth part in the track. Jumps were sketchy also.

I'm all for being positive but I hated that track.
bobby397 wrote:
This isn't sx, grow a set of balls!
This is where motocross is going. Wow.

Motocross tracks aren't suppose to be smooth, as wide as a highway or the way the riders want it. AMA needs to cater to the fans, not the riders. NASCAR does a good job of that and I think MX could learn from that.
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gharmon 6/2/2013 12:42pm
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Everyone raced the same track on the same day. Does it really make a fuck how it was? It's a race and EVERYONE rode the same Damn track. I was there and I don't really care for dust a whole lot and it didn't get on my nerves any. The race track for sure wasn't dusty. And the bomber jump looks small on tv. I've been to red bud and stood beside the leap, this jump isn't quite as big but it's close!
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toroP 6/2/2013 12:43pm
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level wrote:
I don't know what you guys are talking about. That track was sketchy, dry and so full of bumps there wasn't a smooth part in the...
I don't know what you guys are talking about. That track was sketchy, dry and so full of bumps there wasn't a smooth part in the track. Jumps were sketchy also.

I'm all for being positive but I hated that track.
bobby397 wrote:
This isn't sx, grow a set of balls!
It clearly wasn't SX, the track wasn't wide enough to be SX.Wink
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wfo250 6/2/2013 2:02pm
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I have been to Red Bud, Millville, Troy, High Point, Budds Creek, Glen Helen and now Muddy Creek. Muddy Creek was ok but
not a national caliber track imo. Mx sports sucks as i'm sure the track in Utah will too.
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chuck317 6/2/2013 2:11pm
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ive raced there a bunch of times. it always get bumpy so what. its always sloppy in practice also, so that was nothing new.
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Crash82 6/2/2013 2:49pm
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Rough? Bumpy? You guys crack me up! It's motocross man not that gay groomed track like a HWY Stupidcross stuff it was real MoTo! Had to be the best track so far this year from a fans of point of view, as big as those bumps and ruts were on TV I bet they were huge from a rider point of view. Man I loved it, I will be there in person next year!
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Why did you delete my post? Just because I'm not a fan of MX Sports? Getting rid of Southwick is like the begining of the
end. Davey will eventually get rid of all the current national tracks. 22,000 at Muddy Creek? Big deal, Red Bud kicks their ass!
No beer for sale at a national, WTF?
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wfo250 wrote:
Why did you delete my post? Just because I'm not a fan of MX Sports? Getting rid of Southwick is like the begining of the end...
Why did you delete my post? Just because I'm not a fan of MX Sports? Getting rid of Southwick is like the begining of the
end. Davey will eventually get rid of all the current national tracks. 22,000 at Muddy Creek? Big deal, Red Bud kicks their ass!
No beer for sale at a national, WTF?
How is it Davey's fault that Southwick is closing?
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I was speaking with someone from the track (In the know) who said there was just over 20,000 Pre-sale tickets sold prior to the event so, I am sure there was a lot more sold on the day of the event.

I know it sure was packed in the camping area and on th eday of the event, you could not get near the fence!

I also took photos of the Friday practice if there is anyone on here that rode and wants me to look to see if I caught you out there. I need your bike brand and number, and if you have a name on the front plate that helps.. I will post them on here once I find them.
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mx317 6/2/2013 4:48pm
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I heard close to 40 thousand came through the gates. Racer X just said it was a massive crowd.
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JoJmoto 6/2/2013 5:16pm
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Yeah a littl over 40K is also what I was told but I was waiting on an official count...
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brimx153 6/2/2013 5:35pm
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i thought it was one of the best tracks i ve seen in ages , provided great racing , found it weird RV saying it was hard to pass , cause as someone here said before there was more passing out in that first 250f race than there has been in the first 8 motos together , i just about to look at that race again , cooper web , all i can say is wow , epic race Smile Smile
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TV didn't do the triple step up any justice, IMO. That freakin' jump was big. I thought the track was hard to pass on and numerous...
TV didn't do the triple step up any justice, IMO. That freakin' jump was big. I thought the track was hard to pass on and numerous riders stated the same opinion. Glad to have a national back in the SE!!!! Thanks MX Sports.
Totally agree!!! I was there and the whole road leading to the pits had hundreds of people gaping at the side view of that 100 ft plus up hill tripple!!! I,ve got it on video and CANNOT belive they didn't show that on Fuel. Thats like not show casing Loroccos Leap, man whos caling the shots on TV, big mistake.
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I can't really explain how amazed i am that mm25 and kr94 are the first euro riders i really like.

i thought the euros were supposed to be the complainers

did they say shit about this track?

musquin loved how technical it was and KR didn't say anything bad even after hitting the dirt.

it's not perfect, but for a first year run i thought it came out very good. it will be improved for sure.

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LS1guy 6/2/2013 6:12pm
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willie838 wrote:
I can't really explain how amazed i am that mm25 and kr94 are the first euro riders i really like. i thought the euros were supposed...
I can't really explain how amazed i am that mm25 and kr94 are the first euro riders i really like.

i thought the euros were supposed to be the complainers

did they say shit about this track?

musquin loved how technical it was and KR didn't say anything bad even after hitting the dirt.

it's not perfect, but for a first year run i thought it came out very good. it will be improved for sure.
this. I don't think even Dungey said anything bad about it.
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Vonripper450 wrote:
Villopoto sounded like he hated too. He said changes need to be made before the race next year. I thought it was exciting though.
well ya RV didnt like the track because he didnt win...
jess.wilder711 6/2/2013 8:25pm
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I really don't know what everyone is talking about when they say the track was narrow. I rode on Friday in the amateur practice and thought it was absolutely fine, and I've ridden most of the premier tracks in the southest at some point as well as Millville. Most of the track was actually wider than Millville, the only spot that really struck me as narrow at all was the right hand 90 and the left 180 before the mechanics area, but even in that section there were multiple good lines so it really doesn't matter if it was a little narrow.

As to the track being sketchy, I have no idea what you are talking about. Yeah it got bumps on it but that's motocross. The jumps were built just fine. I'm a local A rider where I live and I jumped everything other than the uphill triple in the first 3 laps or so and never was thrown funny or had any issues whatsoever. Even on the Bomber, you land just past the apex of your jump anyhow, so you don't know a 20 foot backside to the third one or anything like that, the only time it really looked sketchy at all was when someone shorted it a little in which case it was much more forgiving than, say, the Leap at RedBud; the riders didn't just stop and no one went over the bars or got tossed off just from shorting it.

Other than right off the gate too, it didn't get any dustier than say a High Point or Steel City at the end of the day either. It's uspposed to be a national championship anyhow, it's nice to see the riders have to cope with different soil types throughout the year, not every race can or should have sandy loam all around the track.
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8tensolutions 6/3/2013 5:06am
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The negativity of this forum never lets me down. The riders definitely did not hate the track. Reed isnt going to like anything right now because he has something wrong and is just riding around. Listen to the interviews here

We were there and the facility, spectator areas, and overall atmosphere was terrific. I have also been to Red Bud and Budds Creek and would rank this one as good or better as a total package facility. The only complaint would be a lack of bathrooms and concessions in the spectator area. No problem there, just bring a cooler!
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ga_pike 6/3/2013 5:26am
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The negativity of this forum never lets me down. The riders definitely did not hate the track. Reed isnt going to like anything right now because...
The negativity of this forum never lets me down. The riders definitely did not hate the track. Reed isnt going to like anything right now because he has something wrong and is just riding around. Listen to the interviews here

We were there and the facility, spectator areas, and overall atmosphere was terrific. I have also been to Red Bud and Budds Creek and would rank this one as good or better as a total package facility. The only complaint would be a lack of bathrooms and concessions in the spectator area. No problem there, just bring a cooler!
Restrooms and concessions are important but it's understandable they were in need of more. I'm sure that they will work the next year to improve the overall facility and that this will be one of the key areas of focus. I wasn't there but were the restroom port-a-johns or permanent facilities? Is it just a matter of improving the areas to bring in more portable toilets?

I don't remember much from racing there back in the late 80's and early 90's when I was on 80s except that there were lots more trees and the viewing was not good. Looks like they fixed that Smile
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I thought the track produced some great racing. It is difficult to pass when you are within 10ths of a second with the guy you are racing, but other then that, those that were faster passed slower guys just fine, at least as far as I could tell. As for it being rough, isn't that better and safer? And isn't that the point of motocross? Guys have triple chamber air suspension, EFI, all of this fancy shit to help them navigate the bumps as fast as possible. So what is the point then?
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gharmon 6/3/2013 11:13am
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jess.wilder711 wrote:
I really don't know what everyone is talking about when they say the track was narrow. I rode on Friday in the amateur practice and thought...
I really don't know what everyone is talking about when they say the track was narrow. I rode on Friday in the amateur practice and thought it was absolutely fine, and I've ridden most of the premier tracks in the southest at some point as well as Millville. Most of the track was actually wider than Millville, the only spot that really struck me as narrow at all was the right hand 90 and the left 180 before the mechanics area, but even in that section there were multiple good lines so it really doesn't matter if it was a little narrow.

As to the track being sketchy, I have no idea what you are talking about. Yeah it got bumps on it but that's motocross. The jumps were built just fine. I'm a local A rider where I live and I jumped everything other than the uphill triple in the first 3 laps or so and never was thrown funny or had any issues whatsoever. Even on the Bomber, you land just past the apex of your jump anyhow, so you don't know a 20 foot backside to the third one or anything like that, the only time it really looked sketchy at all was when someone shorted it a little in which case it was much more forgiving than, say, the Leap at RedBud; the riders didn't just stop and no one went over the bars or got tossed off just from shorting it.

Other than right off the gate too, it didn't get any dustier than say a High Point or Steel City at the end of the day either. It's uspposed to be a national championship anyhow, it's nice to see the riders have to cope with different soil types throughout the year, not every race can or should have sandy loam all around the track.
Out of all the people that I witness come up short most just stalled the bike. I saw a couple lay it over from casing it but no big get-offs.

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