any 85 updates any time soon?

nytsmaC wrote:

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motoarmageddon wrote:

Its been so long since any Japanese mfr. has updated an 85. I thought this was because 150's were coming, but that isnt happening. So these...

Its been so long since any Japanese mfr. has updated an 85. I thought this was because 150's were coming, but that isnt happening. So these poor kids are riding 1999 tech bikes. I know the KTM is a newer design but it isnt dominant at all

motoarmageddon wrote:

That TM is so sick but if you tell mini dads about it they arent interested. these mini dads are saying that the CRF 150 is...

That TM is so sick but if you tell mini dads about it they arent interested. these mini dads are saying that the CRF 150 is slow and kids dont want them. I find that hard to believe. they say these 10 year old Suzuki's are the best. Shit you not, I know of national level mini kids where their dads dont ever buy them a new bike, just used 08s and 09s

motoarmageddon wrote:

That TM is so sick but if you tell mini dads about it they arent interested. these mini dads are saying that the CRF 150 is...

That TM is so sick but if you tell mini dads about it they arent interested. these mini dads are saying that the CRF 150 is slow and kids dont want them. I find that hard to believe. they say these 10 year old Suzuki's are the best. Shit you not, I know of national level mini kids where their dads dont ever buy them a new bike, just used 08s and 09s

motoarmageddon wrote:

Its been so long since any Japanese mfr. has updated an 85. I thought this was because 150's were coming, but that isnt happening. So these...

Its been so long since any Japanese mfr. has updated an 85. I thought this was because 150's were coming, but that isnt happening. So these poor kids are riding 1999 tech bikes. I know the KTM is a newer design but it isnt dominant at all

motoarmageddon wrote:

Its been so long since any Japanese mfr. has updated an 85. I thought this was because 150's were coming, but that isnt happening. So these...

Its been so long since any Japanese mfr. has updated an 85. I thought this was because 150's were coming, but that isnt happening. So these poor kids are riding 1999 tech bikes. I know the KTM is a newer design but it isnt dominant at all

motoarmageddon wrote:

would we be cool riding bikes that were from 1999? hell no. riders buy a new 2013 bike and then spend 1000 on suspension and still...

would we be cool riding bikes that were from 1999? hell no. riders buy a new 2013 bike and then spend 1000 on suspension and still complain about everything. can you imagine the best bike available being a 2002 YZ 426?

motoarmageddon wrote:

would we be cool riding bikes that were from 1999? hell no. riders buy a new 2013 bike and then spend 1000 on suspension and still...

would we be cool riding bikes that were from 1999? hell no. riders buy a new 2013 bike and then spend 1000 on suspension and still complain about everything. can you imagine the best bike available being a 2002 YZ 426?

GuyB wrote:

Half the guys in here get excited by the scent of two-strokes, and think kids riding 85s rather than 150s would be an upgrade.

motoarmageddon wrote:

Its been so long since any Japanese mfr. has updated an 85. I thought this was because 150's were coming, but that isnt happening. So these...

Its been so long since any Japanese mfr. has updated an 85. I thought this was because 150's were coming, but that isnt happening. So these poor kids are riding 1999 tech bikes. I know the KTM is a newer design but it isnt dominant at all

DrSweden wrote:

The lack of "evolution" or rather plastic upgrades/change seems like a good thing then? People buying a cheap bike, if kiddo having fun, build it up...

The lack of "evolution" or rather plastic upgrades/change seems like a good thing then? People buying a cheap bike, if kiddo having fun, build it up make it a weapon. All good it seems?

jmb227 wrote:

My son rides a pair of 07 CR85's just keep rebuilding them and they are fine. I think thats one reason you dont see too many...

My son rides a pair of 07 CR85's just keep rebuilding them and they are fine.
I think thats one reason you dont see too many people switching over. The price to run an older RM, YZ or CR is dirt cheap compared to buying new KX's or KTM's and then building them up.
I bought one of his bikes for $800. That gives me $3200 to play with right off the start Vs. buying a new KX. He likes the feel of the Honda better then the Kawi and its alot cheaper to run them.

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sharkey wrote:

the kx isnt half the bike the yz or rm is

peelout wrote:

yeah, but wait until he has to have a new 250f every year...

sharkey wrote:

the kx isnt half the bike the yz or rm is

bd wrote:

Yes.... but the PC mod KX85 is very hard to beat.

sharkey wrote:

the kx isnt half the bike the yz or rm is

bd wrote:

Yes.... but the PC mod KX85 is very hard to beat.

sharkey wrote:

the kx isnt half the bike the yz or rm is

bd wrote:

Yes.... but the PC mod KX85 is very hard to beat.

MotoX85 wrote:

And the JMS performance modded YZ bike is almost untouchable. (85 wise) I hope not, my son hase 3 bikes that we can easily use for...

And the JMS performance modded YZ bike is almost untouchable. (85 wise)

I hope not, my son hase 3 bikes that we can easily use for race and practice. Helps out tremendously that they have nor updated them. And we haven't met anything on the track we can't do yet.

This cheapness and affordability has allowed me to purchase him a YZ125 to start towards the next step. It has also let me purchase him a pit bike (KLX110L) so he doesn;t tear up his other bikes.

As for a new 13 KTM, they are pretty and fast. But for what it costs to buy a stock one, I can buy a 13 YZ 85, send the motor to JMS performance for a FULL national upgrade and still have money for a pipe and v force read cage. The Stock KTM cannot touch this motor and the YZ will turn circles around the KTM.

Now lets talk about service and upkeep

Clutch lever for YZ $5
for KTM $25

PIston kit for YZ $55 includes all gaskets.
for KTM $115

Now if you want to compare the SXS. I can buy to brand new YZs and still have change left over.

Riders make the bike, not the other way around. When I can get a new KTM for $3k out the door, we will buy one. Actually I am lying, I have enough 85s right now to last till he bumps up. Thanks for the lack of updates a reasonable price Yamaha!!!!

Shows how good this bike was when it first came out. Still going strong after 10 years.