Is AC the man to revive PC?

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Edited Date/Time 3/25/2013 6:13pm
Here is an article on Adam Cianciarulo.

Pretty interesting to see how this unfolds in the next couple of years. It is a lot of pressure for Adam.
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bama205 3/25/2013 9:21am
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It says "winning record of RC"

Wtf he isn't even a pro yet. Amateur means amateur. Case in point MA800
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Moto_Geek 3/25/2013 9:24am
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They are just using PR to hype PC right now. They have been in the dark for a while now. They even used miss supercross to do video skits in the shop. It's all about PR for PC when they are not winning, they need to be attention whores. I'm a bit bitter of some of these companies. They have pulled back on alot of amateur sponsorship dollars that have affect some riders around me and it stinks to see support disappear for the people that actually pay for their products and for the rest of us that ride fading.
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Moto_Geek wrote:
They are just using PR to hype PC right now. They have been in the dark for a while now. They even used miss supercross to...
They are just using PR to hype PC right now. They have been in the dark for a while now. They even used miss supercross to do video skits in the shop. It's all about PR for PC when they are not winning, they need to be attention whores. I'm a bit bitter of some of these companies. They have pulled back on alot of amateur sponsorship dollars that have affect some riders around me and it stinks to see support disappear for the people that actually pay for their products and for the rest of us that ride fading.
Sorry that PC has affected you in a negative way but how about you try to run their company?
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smoker 3/25/2013 9:41am
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idk, but if Bell's small size has anything to do with him crashing, I hope AC gets real strong before really trying to push it hard on a PC 250f race bike.

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Gebken40 3/25/2013 9:43am
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I'm confused as to why PC needs to be revived. Yes, they have had some bad luck in SX the last few seasons but they have also won the last two outdoor titles.
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bama205 3/25/2013 9:45am
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Moto_Geek wrote:
They are just using PR to hype PC right now. They have been in the dark for a while now. They even used miss supercross to...
They are just using PR to hype PC right now. They have been in the dark for a while now. They even used miss supercross to do video skits in the shop. It's all about PR for PC when they are not winning, they need to be attention whores. I'm a bit bitter of some of these companies. They have pulled back on alot of amateur sponsorship dollars that have affect some riders around me and it stinks to see support disappear for the people that actually pay for their products and for the rest of us that ride fading.
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Sorry that PC has affected you in a negative way but how about you try to run their company?
When did they start allowing 12 year old girls to post on here anyway?
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Moto_Geek wrote:
They are just using PR to hype PC right now. They have been in the dark for a while now. They even used miss supercross to...
They are just using PR to hype PC right now. They have been in the dark for a while now. They even used miss supercross to do video skits in the shop. It's all about PR for PC when they are not winning, they need to be attention whores. I'm a bit bitter of some of these companies. They have pulled back on alot of amateur sponsorship dollars that have affect some riders around me and it stinks to see support disappear for the people that actually pay for their products and for the rest of us that ride fading.
they should pull back most of the AM support and give it to the guys who make SX mains and National gates. It amazes me that there are AM's who get more support than guys like Peick, AJ Cantazaro, Kiniry, etc..... Do the drivers at your local dirt track stock car races get more help than the guys in NASCAR circuit? So bass ackwards in this sport........
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bama205 3/25/2013 9:48am
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Gebken40 wrote:
I'm confused as to why PC needs to be revived. Yes, they have had some bad luck in SX the last few seasons but they have...
I'm confused as to why PC needs to be revived. Yes, they have had some bad luck in SX the last few seasons but they have also won the last two outdoor titles.
Agreed.
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bama205 3/25/2013 9:49am
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Moto_Geek wrote:
They are just using PR to hype PC right now. They have been in the dark for a while now. They even used miss supercross to...
They are just using PR to hype PC right now. They have been in the dark for a while now. They even used miss supercross to do video skits in the shop. It's all about PR for PC when they are not winning, they need to be attention whores. I'm a bit bitter of some of these companies. They have pulled back on alot of amateur sponsorship dollars that have affect some riders around me and it stinks to see support disappear for the people that actually pay for their products and for the rest of us that ride fading.
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they should pull back most of the AM support and give it to the guys who make SX mains and National gates. It amazes me that...
they should pull back most of the AM support and give it to the guys who make SX mains and National gates. It amazes me that there are AM's who get more support than guys like Peick, AJ Cantazaro, Kiniry, etc..... Do the drivers at your local dirt track stock car races get more help than the guys in NASCAR circuit? So bass ackwards in this sport........
Very good point. But it is about the money. And the winners are lopsided in this sport.
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burnside 3/25/2013 10:00am
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Huckster wrote:
they should pull back most of the AM support and give it to the guys who make SX mains and National gates. It amazes me that...
they should pull back most of the AM support and give it to the guys who make SX mains and National gates. It amazes me that there are AM's who get more support than guys like Peick, AJ Cantazaro, Kiniry, etc..... Do the drivers at your local dirt track stock car races get more help than the guys in NASCAR circuit? So bass ackwards in this sport........
Isn't this part of the reason why PC is in this hole? They weren't investing in the young guys and by the time the kids had pubes they were locked into contracts with other teams. If your competitors are mining the field years before they turn pro PC have no choice but to invest in prospects like AC or someone will take them off the market before they even get to A1. I get your point too though. Tough business pro racing eh!
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smoker wrote:
idk, but if Bell's small size has anything to do with him crashing, I hope AC gets real strong before really trying to push it hard...
idk, but if Bell's small size has anything to do with him crashing, I hope AC gets real strong before really trying to push it hard on a PC 250f race bike.
Bell has been hurt his whole career.... has more to do with his riding style than his size. AC is a different animal, as smooth as he is fast.
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IWreckALot 3/25/2013 10:44am
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I thought this thread was going to be about Ciaroli. Forgot about Adam.
171motocross 3/25/2013 10:54am
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i was thinking more like Cooper Webb reviving Yamaha..
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KlootZak 3/25/2013 11:18am
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I have a "six sense feeling" that Webb will become a Red Bull KTM rider.

No, in my opinion the PC monopoly is broken. Geico really upped their game and Red Bull KTM has a really competitive package.
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Elcharro95 3/25/2013 11:19am
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AC will be in such deep shit if he doesn't perform to par. Just the size of the expectations alone are intimidating.
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I think the huge advantage that PC always had in the bike department is not longer there. Honda and KTM have bikes on par with PC...There is no longer a huge equipment advantage for riding for PC and so SOME of the top riders are riding for other teams-and the result is PC isn't dominating like we got used to them doing.

And good points about the amateur support...Honda and now Yamaha are signing the top amateurs as amateurs and so PC doesn't even a seat at the table by the time they turn pro.

I think if PC wants top riders now days, they are going to have to pay more money to get them...maybe Mitch isn't willing to do that?
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"Man" ?
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Huckster 3/25/2013 11:42am
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Huckster wrote:
they should pull back most of the AM support and give it to the guys who make SX mains and National gates. It amazes me that...
they should pull back most of the AM support and give it to the guys who make SX mains and National gates. It amazes me that there are AM's who get more support than guys like Peick, AJ Cantazaro, Kiniry, etc..... Do the drivers at your local dirt track stock car races get more help than the guys in NASCAR circuit? So bass ackwards in this sport........
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Isn't this part of the reason why PC is in this hole? They weren't investing in the young guys and by the time the kids had...
Isn't this part of the reason why PC is in this hole? They weren't investing in the young guys and by the time the kids had pubes they were locked into contracts with other teams. If your competitors are mining the field years before they turn pro PC have no choice but to invest in prospects like AC or someone will take them off the market before they even get to A1. I get your point too though. Tough business pro racing eh!
I didnt realize winning the last 2 outdoor titles puts you in the catagory of being in a "hole." Heck, most don't even care about regional SX titles. PC is fine and should be good to go once the outdoors start. Lining up the top AM kids is one thing, but giving Johnny a bike because he won the open mini C class at chicken licks race way is a thing of the past and was never good for this industry, IMHO......same goes for the gear and aftermarket companies.

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smoker wrote:
idk, but if Bell's small size has anything to do with him crashing, I hope AC gets real strong before really trying to push it hard...
idk, but if Bell's small size has anything to do with him crashing, I hope AC gets real strong before really trying to push it hard on a PC 250f race bike.
Yes... because it affetcs JS7, Baggett, Barcia, RC4, RV2, Weiner. These fellas max, are 155lbs while racing.
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mccread wrote:
Here is an article on [url=http://www.mxvice.com/blog/racing/talking-point-is-adam-the-man-to-redeem-pro-circuit/]Adam Cianciarulo[/url]. Pretty interesting to see how this unfolds in the next couple of years. It is a lot of pressure...
Here is an article on Adam Cianciarulo.

Pretty interesting to see how this unfolds in the next couple of years. It is a lot of pressure for Adam.
I am a huge Geico Honda fan. Always been a Honda fan. That said, Baggett is clearly the favorite outdoors.
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Expectations and comparions.....energy and spiritualy killers. No need to compare AC92 to anyone, kid is a beast and will rock it.
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Huckster wrote:
they should pull back most of the AM support and give it to the guys who make SX mains and National gates. It amazes me that...
they should pull back most of the AM support and give it to the guys who make SX mains and National gates. It amazes me that there are AM's who get more support than guys like Peick, AJ Cantazaro, Kiniry, etc..... Do the drivers at your local dirt track stock car races get more help than the guys in NASCAR circuit? So bass ackwards in this sport........
burnside wrote:
Isn't this part of the reason why PC is in this hole? They weren't investing in the young guys and by the time the kids had...
Isn't this part of the reason why PC is in this hole? They weren't investing in the young guys and by the time the kids had pubes they were locked into contracts with other teams. If your competitors are mining the field years before they turn pro PC have no choice but to invest in prospects like AC or someone will take them off the market before they even get to A1. I get your point too though. Tough business pro racing eh!
Huckster wrote:
I didnt realize winning the last 2 outdoor titles puts you in the catagory of being in a "hole." Heck, most don't even care about regional...
I didnt realize winning the last 2 outdoor titles puts you in the catagory of being in a "hole." Heck, most don't even care about regional SX titles. PC is fine and should be good to go once the outdoors start. Lining up the top AM kids is one thing, but giving Johnny a bike because he won the open mini C class at chicken licks race way is a thing of the past and was never good for this industry, IMHO......same goes for the gear and aftermarket companies.
BINGO Huckester. 250F Outdoors > 250F Indoors.
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dhp_mma94 3/25/2013 12:18pm
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i think most of PC riders are outdoor specialists, when BB1 gets healthy for outdoors its over!!!!!!!!!!!!!! roczen , tomac , musquin can kiss that title goodbyeKissing
cant wait for adam to get in the mix tho!!!
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Moto_Geek wrote:
They are just using PR to hype PC right now. They have been in the dark for a while now. They even used miss supercross to...
They are just using PR to hype PC right now. They have been in the dark for a while now. They even used miss supercross to do video skits in the shop. It's all about PR for PC when they are not winning, they need to be attention whores. I'm a bit bitter of some of these companies. They have pulled back on alot of amateur sponsorship dollars that have affect some riders around me and it stinks to see support disappear for the people that actually pay for their products and for the rest of us that ride fading.
Huckster wrote:
they should pull back most of the AM support and give it to the guys who make SX mains and National gates. It amazes me that...
they should pull back most of the AM support and give it to the guys who make SX mains and National gates. It amazes me that there are AM's who get more support than guys like Peick, AJ Cantazaro, Kiniry, etc..... Do the drivers at your local dirt track stock car races get more help than the guys in NASCAR circuit? So bass ackwards in this sport........
this is so true and you see it all the time.
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Rooster 3/25/2013 3:48pm
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Revive what?

Wait until the outdoors when Bagget and Wilson are both healthy again. I would be very surprised if AC has anything for his teammates, let alone KTM's stable of world champs and Geico Honda's up and coming riders.

Mitch doesn't have the pick of the litter anymore when it comes to the amateurs. So you won't be seeing as many all pro-circuit podiums like in days past.

AC is good. Very good in fact, but will he be another RC/Bubba and step in and immediately dominate? I don't think that's possible anymore.
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dhp_mma94 wrote:
i think most of PC riders are outdoor specialists, when BB1 gets healthy for outdoors its over!!!!!!!!!!!!!! roczen , tomac , musquin can kiss that title...
i think most of PC riders are outdoor specialists, when BB1 gets healthy for outdoors its over!!!!!!!!!!!!!! roczen , tomac , musquin can kiss that title goodbyeKissing
cant wait for adam to get in the mix tho!!!
You're counting your chickens broseph. I recall several races that tomac killed it and his intensity has only increases. Baggett writing off tomac would be as big of a mistake as Wilson writing off Hahn. Getting complacent only gets you beat.
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Falcon 3/25/2013 6:13pm
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Outsider wrote:
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Haha, yeah. For at least another year or more, he might be the boy to revive PC.

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