Question about Matthes/Dungey

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Edited Date/Time 3/5/2013 12:19pm
I noticed that Steve never interviews Ryan. And Ryan never goes on the Pulpmx show. Was this worthy of a thread? No but that's normal for me....
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3/4/2013 10:49am
Apparently, like RC, he's got a beef and won't. Personally, I think it's a mistake at least as to the podcasts, because IMO doing those is less about helping out a guy you don't like for some reason and more a lost opportunity to get your voice heard in a pretty large body of the oral history of the sport that Matthes has put together in the rider podcasts.
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3/4/2013 12:03pm
Seems more like Dungey not talking to Steve has nothing to do with something Steve has done to Dunge, but rather out of RC maybe telling Dunge to "stay away from that guy, he'll do you wrong"

Dunge should make up his own mind about Steve and at least do some post race short interviews where he just talks about the race. I understand if he doesnt want to do a long podcast where he might be asked about his personal life or be asked about things he'd rather keep private.

Just my two cents
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3/4/2013 12:27pm
Yeah, I'm sure RC's buried me to him over the years, what are you gonna do? I think I've been fair to him over the years and to be fair to him, he has come on the Pulpmx show once at the beginning and he's done two podcasts w me but from what people tell me, he's not a fan at all.

I asked him a year ago or so what I could do to help our relationship out and he replied that we were all good and that he barely knew me. But then he continues to not be a fan with his actions and words. What can you do? The pits are pretty big and if he and RC are the only two guys who won't talk to me, there are many others that will.
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3/4/2013 12:33pm
Matthes wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure RC's buried me to him over the years, what are you gonna do? I think I've been fair to him over the years...
Yeah, I'm sure RC's buried me to him over the years, what are you gonna do? I think I've been fair to him over the years and to be fair to him, he has come on the Pulpmx show once at the beginning and he's done two podcasts w me but from what people tell me, he's not a fan at all.

I asked him a year ago or so what I could do to help our relationship out and he replied that we were all good and that he barely knew me. But then he continues to not be a fan with his actions and words. What can you do? The pits are pretty big and if he and RC are the only two guys who won't talk to me, there are many others that will.
Dungey is an odd character. It seems like he holds grudges pretty easy. I imagine he would be the same way with Alessi and a few others. But like you said, what can you do.

Having said that, I'm a big fan of Dungey's. I guess everyone has their vice.

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3/4/2013 12:34pm
I applaud Dungey's defiance. Matthes is ruining our sport.
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3/4/2013 12:39pm
Matthes wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure RC's buried me to him over the years, what are you gonna do? I think I've been fair to him over the years...
Yeah, I'm sure RC's buried me to him over the years, what are you gonna do? I think I've been fair to him over the years and to be fair to him, he has come on the Pulpmx show once at the beginning and he's done two podcasts w me but from what people tell me, he's not a fan at all.

I asked him a year ago or so what I could do to help our relationship out and he replied that we were all good and that he barely knew me. But then he continues to not be a fan with his actions and words. What can you do? The pits are pretty big and if he and RC are the only two guys who won't talk to me, there are many others that will.
Does RC's beef with you stem all the way back from the race that Ferry pissed him off, or...?
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3/4/2013 12:39pm
I'm waiting for Dunge to have his "Cher" moment where he calls Steve an asshole. Then they can proceed with a nice relationship for the next 30 years culminating with Steve doing a podcast with Dunges transgender offspring.
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3/4/2013 12:40pm
Jt$ wrote:
I applaud Dungey's defiance. Matthes is ruining our sport.
At first I was like, "What the fuck is this guy's problem?!"
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3/4/2013 12:41pm
Matthes wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure RC's buried me to him over the years, what are you gonna do? I think I've been fair to him over the years...
Yeah, I'm sure RC's buried me to him over the years, what are you gonna do? I think I've been fair to him over the years and to be fair to him, he has come on the Pulpmx show once at the beginning and he's done two podcasts w me but from what people tell me, he's not a fan at all.

I asked him a year ago or so what I could do to help our relationship out and he replied that we were all good and that he barely knew me. But then he continues to not be a fan with his actions and words. What can you do? The pits are pretty big and if he and RC are the only two guys who won't talk to me, there are many others that will.
This post should mend it all up.
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3/4/2013 12:42pm
I'm pretty sure Dungey was on PulpMX within the last 3 months or so.... but it could have been DMXS and I'm getting them mixed up...
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3/4/2013 12:42pm
Here, let me sum up his interview(s):

Yea, you know, I'm pumped on the team, we made some adjustments this week and got off to a good start. Just clicked off the laps hitting my marks. We're going to put our heads down and focus on next week.

while the tiff with Matthes is dumb and him not doing the interviews, I feel like we're not missing much. I like Dunge as a rider but he's one of the worst interviews to read or listen to.
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3/4/2013 12:47pm
The fans are the ones that suffer the most from a RC--Matthes fued, even though we know it is mainly RC.

Think about it... Matthes always asked good, in-depth questions that lead to some very good inside information. Now, imagine him and RC doing a career retrospective-esque, 2 hour long podcast.

Who wins? NO ONE

Who loses? THE FANS
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3/4/2013 12:48pm
Why doesn't RC like Matthes? Is it seriously for that thing when Matthes was Ferrys mechanic?

Btw Matthes, i read "Racerhead" every week, im actually sitting waiting for it. But i only read your section. Okey i give the other writers a quick eye, but your i read every word! Smile
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3/4/2013 12:51pm
TannerMxer wrote:
The fans are the ones that suffer the most from a RC--Matthes fued, even though we know it is mainly RC. Think about it... Matthes always...
The fans are the ones that suffer the most from a RC--Matthes fued, even though we know it is mainly RC.

Think about it... Matthes always asked good, in-depth questions that lead to some very good inside information. Now, imagine him and RC doing a career retrospective-esque, 2 hour long podcast.

Who wins? NO ONE

Who loses? THE FANS
Agreed. I know I'll get flamed for it, but RC is kind of a douche. I know that you have to be super confident to dominate like he did, and he's super confident because he dominated like he did, but hearing his pissing matches with Jeff are pretty annoying. You can tell Jeff is just trying to joke around and do his color thing, and then RC get super serious about it (ie: which section of the track is going to be more difficult, sand or rhythm sections). He's just kind of like a spoiled kid.
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3/4/2013 12:58pm
I agree with hasko158 100%.

As far as Carmichael goes, I have the utmost respect for him as a racer and as a competitor, but I must say that I am not a big fan of his personality. He still has a huge chip on his shoulder (which is shy he was a great competitor, but most guys can turn it off), which makes him come off as quite the douche at times. Not to mention the favoritism he shows towards Tickle, Dungey and Les Smith, and his hatred of Friese.

And he is always talking about how Stewart is laboring in the turns when he isn't the fastest guy or is being pushed (I guess because James is the guy who kinda dethroned him). Like I said, the dude was awesome on the track and had a work ethic unlike any other, but those days are over and he needs to chill out.

The point? Dungey should be able to make his own decisions and not have Carmichael telling him who to talk to...Kinda childish if you ask me.
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3/4/2013 1:54pm
Jt$ wrote:
I applaud Dungey's defiance. Matthes is ruining our sport.
Grieby54 wrote:
At first I was like, "What the fuck is this guy's problem?!"
hahaha... Me too! JT$, always busting Matthes' balls!

I kinda think its a bit silly this thing with RC/RD and avoiding Pulp... Wasn't RC saying his last few years of MX that you can't outrun the media and how it's better to work with them etc, how he learned in Nascar that you've gotta eat up those sponsor opportunities...

Well acting like a bitch towards a radio show because the host was a mechanic of a rival is pretty retarded...
3/4/2013 1:59pm
Jt$ wrote:
I applaud Dungey's defiance. Matthes is ruining our sport.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA yes!!!!
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3/4/2013 2:13pm
My question is why haven't any of us been invited to do a podcast or be on the Pulpmx show? Why won't Steve interview us?
3/4/2013 2:15pm
Jt$ wrote:
I applaud Dungey's defiance. Matthes is ruining our sport.
Grieby54 wrote:
At first I was like, "What the fuck is this guy's problem?!"
Crush wrote:
hahaha... Me too! JT$, always busting Matthes' balls! I kinda think its a bit silly this thing with RC/RD and avoiding Pulp... Wasn't RC saying his...
hahaha... Me too! JT$, always busting Matthes' balls!

I kinda think its a bit silly this thing with RC/RD and avoiding Pulp... Wasn't RC saying his last few years of MX that you can't outrun the media and how it's better to work with them etc, how he learned in Nascar that you've gotta eat up those sponsor opportunities...

Well acting like a bitch towards a radio show because the host was a mechanic of a rival is pretty retarded...
Well acting like a bitch towards a radio show because the host was a mechanic of a rival is pretty retarded...




You were doing fine until you added the last sentence.


It's pretty obvious that neither Carmichael or Dungey need any help from Matthes and if they don't care for him and/or don't care to go on his show, so what.
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3/4/2013 2:18pm
jasonv43 wrote:
My question is why haven't any of us been invited to do a podcast or be on the Pulpmx show? Why won't Steve interview us?
That's Vitarded.....
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[i][b]Well acting like a bitch towards a radio show because the host was a mechanic of a rival is pretty retarded...[/b] You were doing fine until...
Well acting like a bitch towards a radio show because the host was a mechanic of a rival is pretty retarded...




You were doing fine until you added the last sentence.


It's pretty obvious that neither Carmichael or Dungey need any help from Matthes and if they don't care for him and/or don't care to go on his show, so what.
Yeah they're doing fine...

But every person who listens to Pulp prolly thinks less of RC for either not doing the show, influencing Dunge not to do the show or pulling Kenny...

He's just doing exactly what he says not to do... Are you upset because I said bitch and Carmichael in the same sentence? Sorry, Australian brashness... He's being silly. Is that better? Smile
3/4/2013 2:32pm
[i][b]Well acting like a bitch towards a radio show because the host was a mechanic of a rival is pretty retarded...[/b] You were doing fine until...
Well acting like a bitch towards a radio show because the host was a mechanic of a rival is pretty retarded...




You were doing fine until you added the last sentence.


It's pretty obvious that neither Carmichael or Dungey need any help from Matthes and if they don't care for him and/or don't care to go on his show, so what.
Crush wrote:
Yeah they're doing fine... But every person who listens to Pulp prolly thinks less of RC for either not doing the show, influencing Dunge not to...
Yeah they're doing fine...

But every person who listens to Pulp prolly thinks less of RC for either not doing the show, influencing Dunge not to do the show or pulling Kenny...

He's just doing exactly what he says not to do... Are you upset because I said bitch and Carmichael in the same sentence? Sorry, Australian brashness... He's being silly. Is that better? Smile
Nah, maybe they just don't like the style of the show.

They are both riders who have always let their results do their talking and neither really seemed to care about any attention other than that.
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3/4/2013 2:33pm
jasonv43 wrote:
My question is why haven't any of us been invited to do a podcast or be on the Pulpmx show? Why won't Steve interview us?
He did interview one of us when Matt Ware ...uh, I mean Grendel was on there a couple years back. My question is what would have happened if RC had actually gotten his gun and killed Matthes? Would Stewie have killed MC's record? And where did Ware and Kandel run off to?
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chapmanmx wrote:
I agree with hasko158 100%. As far as Carmichael goes, I have the utmost respect for him as a racer and as a competitor, but I...
I agree with hasko158 100%.

As far as Carmichael goes, I have the utmost respect for him as a racer and as a competitor, but I must say that I am not a big fan of his personality. He still has a huge chip on his shoulder (which is shy he was a great competitor, but most guys can turn it off), which makes him come off as quite the douche at times. Not to mention the favoritism he shows towards Tickle, Dungey and Les Smith, and his hatred of Friese.

And he is always talking about how Stewart is laboring in the turns when he isn't the fastest guy or is being pushed (I guess because James is the guy who kinda dethroned him). Like I said, the dude was awesome on the track and had a work ethic unlike any other, but those days are over and he needs to chill out.

The point? Dungey should be able to make his own decisions and not have Carmichael telling him who to talk to...Kinda childish if you ask me.
James is the guy who kinda dethroned him? That's like saying Emig dethroned McGrath...but worse, because Fro actually beat MC out for a title one year. And, I'm right there with RC (I hold a grudge forever), so I can see not doing anything to help the enemy.

JT$, whatcha mean about Matthes ruining our sport? I don't know if you're kidding or not (didn't see any 'lol' or anything.)
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3/4/2013 3:27pm
Jt$ wrote:
I applaud Dungey's defiance. Matthes is ruining our sport.
Haha thanks JT, that's some funny stuff!!
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hasko158 wrote:
Here, let me sum up his interview(s): Yea, you know, I'm pumped on the team, we made some adjustments this week and got off to a...
Here, let me sum up his interview(s):

Yea, you know, I'm pumped on the team, we made some adjustments this week and got off to a good start. Just clicked off the laps hitting my marks. We're going to put our heads down and focus on next week.

while the tiff with Matthes is dumb and him not doing the interviews, I feel like we're not missing much. I like Dunge as a rider but he's one of the worst interviews to read or listen to.
Dungey would probably thank "the man upstairs" as well.

I think they are both childish for refusing to do the show. However, it is great regardless, so I don't care all that much. To be honest, I don't find the rider interviews all that interesting anyway - it is usually the same old story. I like the bits where Matthes and the co-hosts just chat amongst themselves the most.
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3/4/2013 3:44pm Edited Date/Time 3/7/2013 1:20am
Jt$ wrote:
I applaud Dungey's defiance. Matthes is ruining our sport.
Haha.
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jasonv43 wrote:
My question is why haven't any of us been invited to do a podcast or be on the Pulpmx show? Why won't Steve interview us?
The show would go to shit real fast. Lol.
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3/4/2013 3:48pm
jasonv43 wrote:
My question is why haven't any of us been invited to do a podcast or be on the Pulpmx show? Why won't Steve interview us?
AS64 wrote:
The show would go to shit real fast. Lol.
Yeah you're probably right. Then again we do know everything right?
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I think since RC stopped racing (and stopped winning) his bandwagon has more and more empty seats every day (we moto fans LOVE winners...and recent winners at that). And since he's not dominating everyone else any more, NOW more and more people are saying they don't like his personality or think he's a douche (and I'm sure they'll deny that, and claim they NEVER liked his personally and always thought he was a douche, and simply respected him as a racer...but we'll all know those people are lying.)

On the topic, I think BECAUSE there is a feud, that that is every reason in the world why we need an RC/Matthes/Dungey podcast. Toss in a little Ping and a pinch of JT$, and that's a can't miss show. Do it for the fans!!!!!!

And I think it would be great if Matthes would pick a Vitard a week for his podcast-the more outspoken Vitards...let the Vitards speak their opinion (they can even use their screen name and Matthes could disguise their voice and stuff so its still anonymous-and because its anonymous they'll be more likely to speak their true opinion like they would on the board). I think it would be frikkin' awesome to see them get shot down and walked all over and laughed at by the folks that actually know what they are talking about. Who knows? It might actually change the tune of the message boards...Call it the "Vitard moment" or something...

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