Danica of motocross

xnationalwrench 2/25/2013 10:55pm
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Sue Fish raced 125 Pro in SoCal & raced some AMA pro races including Nationals.
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TDeath21 2/25/2013 11:06pm
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No. It's a way more physical sport than driving a car. The best WNBA player couldn't make a bench spot in the NBA. Similar concept here. For one lap, they might be able to put in an impressive showing though.
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I could see it being more realistic in the lites class, met Zach Bell this weekend, no offense because he is lighting fast but he is...
I could see it being more realistic in the lites class, met Zach Bell this weekend, no offense because he is lighting fast but he is half the size of the scantily clad monster/rockstar/falken etc models everywhere at a race.
Well James isn't that big either, nor are RC.
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iudi2006 2/26/2013 1:11am
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Wow this Courtney girl seems to be hauling the mail, Am curious to see how she does in the future but seems like she may be the first girl to really do something in Professional motocross

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If memory serves me correctly, didn't Tara Geiger ride for Team Porto Rico in the MXDN a couple years ago? They didn't qualify for the Main...
If memory serves me correctly, didn't Tara Geiger ride for Team Porto Rico in the MXDN a couple years ago? They didn't qualify for the Main but I don't know how Geiger finished in the B event.
They did Qualify in 2008. Geiger's results were...

MX2 Quali: Finished 30th / 32
MX1/MX2: Finished 35th / 38
MX2/OPEN: Finished 35th / 39

Livia Lancelot is racing MX2 class at the opening GP in Qatar this weekend. She's one of the fastest women riders in the world today so it will be interesting to see how she gets on.
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Shawn142 2/26/2013 4:13am
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Ashley's goal was to race the guys, her trainer Rob Beams mentioned it many a time on DMXS radio. He pushed her hard because she not only wanted to qualify, she wanted to score points. She trained as hard as any athelete Rob dealt with chasing that dream and the results speak for themselves. At no point where the WMX and AMA nationals raced on the same track would she have qualified for the 40 man gate. She was close at least once, but at times she was as much as 7 seconds off the 40th qualifier. I'm not going to say it can't be done.. but it will have to be someone significantly faster than Ashley was.
wired4speed 2/26/2013 4:35am
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Is it physical or mental? A woman should be able to drop two fast laps in a timed qualifying event. I can understand women trailing off in a 30 minute moto against their male counterparts. How much of it is cultural where we all want to protect our daughters from getting hurt.
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exsarg 2/26/2013 4:47am
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scott_nz wrote:
Courtney Duncan I think can qualify for a US 250 outdoor in the next few years, at the first round of the NZ senior MX champs...
Courtney Duncan I think can qualify for a US 250 outdoor in the next few years,

at the first round of the NZ senior MX champs she put a lap time that was 11th overall on a 125, less than 2 seconds behind Justin McDonald was on his 450, Justin earned a top 100 number a few years ago in the states doing the outdoor nationals,

She was 6 seconds off BT101 fastest lap, that would put her pretty close to being in the 250F field i think,

http://www.mylaps.com/results/showrun.jsp?id=2566069

she landing in states this week, ready to do some amateur nationals for the JGR Yamaha am team, some boys are going to be put to shame, she can haul,
fuckin awsome. 1 second quicker then darryl hurley, these lap time comparison things are usually very misleading but 6 6 seconds off bts time who was on a 450? she on a 125? thats incredible. that has to mean she could not only qualify but maybe top 20 a us nat. but remember these lap time comparison deals are huge assumptions.
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MiSledder 2/26/2013 4:54am
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There's a girl racing MX in our district and she qualified for Loretta's but I'm not sure she can keep pace when she hit's the big bikes, I hope she can
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There is a girl from New Zealand named Courtney Duncan who is REALLY good. She is still pretty young (16?), but it will be interesting to...
There is a girl from New Zealand named Courtney Duncan who is REALLY good. She is still pretty young (16?), but it will be interesting to see how far she can get.
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She definitely hauls. I don't remember any other girls ever running that competitively with boys in minis.
wow. was she in the blu and orange troy lee gear on a black 150? a few seconds behind cooper web at the end of a moto. i say she will definetley make waves.
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Hattica77 2/26/2013 7:55am
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The Danica comparison doesn't mesh as well as the UFC fighter Rhonda Rousey does.

I think a woman with that kind of strength, agility, and grit could make it happen in MX.

I mean, anyone on here think they could defeat her in the cage? I wouldn't go in there against her even if they let me have a baseball bat! Haha, that is one MEAN little 140lb person.
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jmx411 2/26/2013 8:00am
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No girl can compete with the boys in this sport. Its a reason its the toughest form of racing out there.
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Lone Wolf wrote:
There is a girl from New Zealand named Courtney Duncan who is REALLY good. She is still pretty young (16?), but it will be interesting to...
There is a girl from New Zealand named Courtney Duncan who is REALLY good. She is still pretty young (16?), but it will be interesting to see how far she can get.
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She definitely hauls. I don't remember any other girls ever running that competitively with boys in minis.
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wow. was she in the blu and orange troy lee gear on a black 150? a few seconds behind cooper web at the end of a...
wow. was she in the blu and orange troy lee gear on a black 150? a few seconds behind cooper web at the end of a moto. i say she will definetley make waves.
No, she was the #8 Yamaha that passed #63 at the end.
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He was 60 years old, why is this BS still up? Is this the I'm controlled by a bitch crowd? Get some balls you fricken fools...
He was 60 years old, why is this BS still up? Is this the I'm controlled by a bitch crowd? Get some balls you fricken fools, get some balls!
grow some balls says the guy with another man as his profile pic!!
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jmx411 wrote:
No girl can compete with the boys in this sport. Its a reason its the toughest form of racing out there.
While at one point in my life I might agree, I'm no longer so certain this is the case.

There is no doubt in my mind that a Ronda Rousey character is much stronger than someone like Zach Bell or Marvin Musquin. So I don't think it's a physical strength limitation.

I believe that if as many girls raced as guys, there would be a few that could make it. It's a numbers game in my opinion. What is the proportion of males to females on the track 10:1 mayyybe?
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scott_nz wrote:
Courtney Duncan I think can qualify for a US 250 outdoor in the next few years, at the first round of the NZ senior MX champs...
Courtney Duncan I think can qualify for a US 250 outdoor in the next few years,

at the first round of the NZ senior MX champs she put a lap time that was 11th overall on a 125, less than 2 seconds behind Justin McDonald was on his 450, Justin earned a top 100 number a few years ago in the states doing the outdoor nationals,

She was 6 seconds off BT101 fastest lap, that would put her pretty close to being in the 250F field i think,

http://www.mylaps.com/results/showrun.jsp?id=2566069

she landing in states this week, ready to do some amateur nationals for the JGR Yamaha am team, some boys are going to be put to shame, she can haul,
That chick right there does sound like the real deal. Would love to see her ride.
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Grieby54 2/26/2013 8:50am
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Let's also keep in mind that girls hit puberty before boys do. Not to discredit Courtney's abilities, but come 18+, she's not going to be able to muscle the bike around like the boys can.

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Hopefully they show the in-car footage of her on YouTube... I'm curious what kind of sandwich she was making
LMFAO!!! Laughing Funny thing is, she finished ahead of her significant other.
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JeepnMike 2/26/2013 9:09am
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SethGator wrote:
for people that don't follow NASCAR, basically any "professional" driver can be successful or wind up with a good finish at a restrictor-plate track. (Daytona-Talladega) her...
for people that don't follow NASCAR, basically any "professional" driver can be successful or wind up with a good finish at a restrictor-plate track. (Daytona-Talladega)

her results will fall off drastically...starting next week at Phoenix. around the 25th-32nd position. Stamp It.
I said this exactly almost word for word to a co-worker yesterday. Daytona and Talledega isn't racing, it is chess (you don't even use brakes). Tony is going to have to whisper a heck of a lot more advice in her ears to get her on the lead lap on a short track (or even intermediate possibly). I don't wish anything bad on her, but there is a lot of unfounded hype. Anytime you START with that much hype, it is a total recipe for disappointment.
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Toste 2/26/2013 9:43am
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Grieby54 wrote:
Let's also keep in mind that girls hit puberty before boys do. Not to discredit Courtney's abilities, but come 18+, she's not going to be able...
Let's also keep in mind that girls hit puberty before boys do. Not to discredit Courtney's abilities, but come 18+, she's not going to be able to muscle the bike around like the boys can.
You may be right. We shall see....BUT, have you noticed how tiny Zach Bell is? The Martin brothers and Wil Hahn aren't a whole lot bigger either, so it's not like Bell is an outlier.

Blake Baggett is rail thin, and ironically(?), he is at his best when the track is rougher than a cob.

Professional motocross may very well require a certain set of characteristics, but it doesn't appear that size and brute strength are among them.
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BobbyM 2/26/2013 9:49am
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The best women rider in the world cannot keep pace with your average b rider.
dorene payne in her prime would smoke the living shit out of you and most others here. she was top 5 or 10 in norcals expert class in the 70's and early 80's
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I think Stefy Bau tried to qualify for some SX and outdoors in the late 90's- early 00's but I don't remember if she was successful or not.
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Rupert X 2/26/2013 12:20pm
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Me thinks the WORST thing - for progression of WOMENS MOTOCROSS - is to separate them when they come off 50's

or 60's. I'm convinced that a FEW of the women racers today, COULD have competed against the pro men - IF they

would have stayed in boys/,mens classes throughout their progression. Having said that, it's gonna be cool when one of

these up n coming young women, whether foreign or domestic - makes it in. It will happen. One day.
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Spartacus 2/26/2013 12:36pm
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Girls and boys are MUCH closer in strength then men and women so she likely won't run with the big dawgs when she's 24 years old.
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NZ272 2/26/2013 12:40pm
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Plenty of "men" in that NZ 125 class that got beaten straight up by Duncan. Just sayin..
At 17 now she's not going to get weaker is she?
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Spartacus 2/26/2013 12:41pm
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NZ272 wrote:
Plenty of "men" in that NZ 125 class that got beaten straight up by Duncan. Just sayin.. At 17 now she's not going to get weaker...
Plenty of "men" in that NZ 125 class that got beaten straight up by Duncan. Just sayin..
At 17 now she's not going to get weaker is she?
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Grieby54 wrote:
Let's also keep in mind that girls hit puberty before boys do. Not to discredit Courtney's abilities, but come 18+, she's not going to be able...
Let's also keep in mind that girls hit puberty before boys do. Not to discredit Courtney's abilities, but come 18+, she's not going to be able to muscle the bike around like the boys can.
+1

Also girls naturally have more fat than guys, meaning the percentage of a guys body that is muscle is a lot greater.

Zach Bell may be small but the percentage of his body that is muscle compared to a girl that is his size is going to be a lot more. Also I'm guessing Zach is going to grow a bit more.
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jtomasik 2/26/2013 12:53pm
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And here I thought this thread was about J-Law....
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Me thinks the WORST thing - for progression of WOMENS MOTOCROSS - is to separate them when they come off 50's or 60's.

^ That's probably good thinksing. Remember there's speculation that even the GP riders are at a disadvantage to U.S. riders because our amateur events are better -- or more competitive?


Anyway, now that I'm more awake I thought I'd try to explain better this image I posted last night. At one point during the Olympic gymnastics broadcast, they explained that this girl was the only female doing this particularly difficult vault (I think) because she's the only one who gets enough height due to her technique (I think).

They did a side-by-side with a male gymnast doing the same vault (I think), which I was looking for and couldn't find, and she was like a foot higher than him at least. And I'm pretty sure there's a HUGE fucking difference between a this girl's strength and a male gymnast's, probably much greater than the difference between, say, Zach Bell and Jessica Patterson.Cheerful


I'm not sure what to make of tennis babes being no match for tennis bros. Maybe physical ability is more of a factor, both in running to return a shot and thwacking the ball.

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