Dallas track another first lap mayhem-inducer

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Edited Date/Time 2/16/2013 12:01pm
Whoop section right after the first turn.

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jasonward73 2/12/2013 10:24am
2/12/2013 10:24am
whoop section, rhythm section, triple.... Nothing is a great idea after the start. Let's just make it a roundy round.
keeptwostrokesalive 2/12/2013 10:48am
2/12/2013 10:48am
IDK what your talking about. All I see is a long double double section. Woohoo
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lucero10x 2/12/2013 10:51am
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Anytime you can get through the first corner and not have to worry about getting landed on at least through the second corner is a good deal.
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TDeath21 2/12/2013 11:38am
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This is getting old. Whoops are a bad idea after the start. Triples are a bad idea after the start. Rhythm sections are a bad idea after the start. Please tell me what you suggest they do instead? Each element of the track has to go somewhere.

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just James 2/12/2013 11:51am
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Holeshot incentive.
No problem.
Girly riders should stay home where it's safe.
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albacore26 2/12/2013 12:05pm
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Bring back the right hand first turn.
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gonemoto 2/12/2013 12:10pm
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How about the split starts where all the guys turning right got screwed. Those were awesome.
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zehn 2/12/2013 12:15pm
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The whoop section doesn't seem too sketchy. It looks like there's a wall right in front of it to slow the riders down. The thing that I noticed that might be a little dangerous is the rhythm section after the start/finish where you triple into a sand section.
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WhipMeister 2/12/2013 12:18pm
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just James wrote:
Holeshot incentive.
No problem.
Girly riders should stay home where it's safe.
So you think the whoops give EXTRA incentive to try to get a holeshot? I guess they don't really care on other layouts. Brilliant.

I guess RV is a 'girly rider'.

“We had a set of whoops right after the start and that makes it a little bit hairball, along with another set right into a triple,” said Villopoto. “I wouldn’t say it was the greatest idea, but a holeshot makes your life easy and you stay out of those mistakes.

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JeepnMike 2/12/2013 12:24pm
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Jeffro503, don't start another Chad Reed thread on Friday, this track isn't looking promising. heh! Grinning
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I do not think whoops or triples should be in the first 2 racing lanes. Always go with a rhythm section to properly separate the riders.
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IWreckALot 2/12/2013 12:45pm
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How about one of these after the holeshot?
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MX45 2/12/2013 12:54pm
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The actual track is going to change to swap the whoops and rhythm section.
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Dezerted 2/12/2013 12:55pm
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Feld should just let vital design all the tracks because it is where all the experts gather. But then there'd be nothing for them to bitch about, quite the predicament.
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MotoMalyDad 2/12/2013 1:45pm
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What is wrong with a start in the whoops ?
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Dezerted wrote:
Feld should just let vital design all the tracks because it is where all the experts gather. But then there'd be nothing for them to bitch...
Feld should just let vital design all the tracks because it is where all the experts gather. But then there'd be nothing for them to bitch about, quite the predicament.
this was Kevin Windham's transfer line last year, maybe they should let him design the tracks from now on

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fader418 2/12/2013 2:02pm
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Uh oh... This could be a cha Zard...

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Jordan421 2/12/2013 2:03pm
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lets just hope the track is better then last week
Mr. Ted 2/12/2013 2:09pm
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Dezerted wrote:
Feld should just let vital design all the tracks because it is where all the experts gather. But then there'd be nothing for them to bitch...
Feld should just let vital design all the tracks because it is where all the experts gather. But then there'd be nothing for them to bitch about, quite the predicament.
peelout wrote:
this was Kevin Windham's transfer line last year, maybe they should let him design the tracks from now on [IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/yz719/track.jpg[/IMG]
this was Kevin Windham's transfer line last year, maybe they should let him design the tracks from now on

That quad to the left looks a little hairy, Peely.
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WhipMeister 2/12/2013 3:10pm
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Dezerted wrote:
Feld should just let vital design all the tracks because it is where all the experts gather. But then there'd be nothing for them to bitch...
Feld should just let vital design all the tracks because it is where all the experts gather. But then there'd be nothing for them to bitch about, quite the predicament.
peelout wrote:
this was Kevin Windham's transfer line last year, maybe they should let him design the tracks from now on [IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/yz719/track.jpg[/IMG]
this was Kevin Windham's transfer line last year, maybe they should let him design the tracks from now on

Mr. Ted wrote:
That quad to the left looks a little hairy, Peely.
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MotoMalyDad wrote:
What is wrong with a start in the whoops ?
Of course this is my opinion and a theory, which has been formed over many years of watching and attending supercross races, and this even goes beyond what happened to Trey Canard with the triples and Chad Reed in the whoops recently. To me it is not totally a danger thing, but instead it is about allowing the race to properly unfold - and to give the fans the best race possible.

I have personally seen it happen time and time again with these particular circumstances, triples and whoops right out of the gate. I have even made it a point to watch for these situations, like a freaking racing detective.

Triples and whoops create a bad racing situation out of the first turn, besides the possibilty for major carnage. They can actually separate the field too much right out of the gate. Often only the first rider, or first few riders, are able to do the obstacle correctly, blitz the whoops or triple the triples. The rest of the field is left to tip toe thru the section while the lucky few race away. Maybe that is racing, but I am looking for ways to provide the best racing possible.

I have seen guys get the holeshot and clear the triple while 2nd place is unable to do it for whatever reason, and the rest of the 18 guys behind him can't do it either. Same with the whoops. The first few guys get thru cleanly and the rest are left rolling them because of the large amount of riders in the area at the same time.

I simply believe that 2 rhythm section lanes right off of the start would allow the race to better unfold in most circumstances.
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Choppy 2/12/2013 4:19pm
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What would all of you prefer they put after the start?

Anyone??? Anyone???
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426Hemi 2/12/2013 4:24pm
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Choppy wrote:
What would all of you prefer they put after the start?

Anyone??? Anyone???
Randomly placed landmines.
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426Hemi 2/12/2013 4:24pm
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Actually, how about a sand section?
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GuyB 2/12/2013 5:04pm
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Choppy wrote:
What would all of you prefer they put after the start?

Anyone??? Anyone???
Right. Bitching trumps constructive suggestions every time.

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WhipMeister 2/12/2013 5:18pm
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Choppy wrote:
What would all of you prefer they put after the start?

Anyone??? Anyone???
I dunno. How about asking Stewart and Reed (I'm sure I'm leaving one fastest man on the planet or another out) what kind of section they can get through after the first turn without taking themselves and anybody else out so we get to see a nice, clean, competitive race to the checkers (or, excuse me...

THE CANDLES!!!!!



)? Blink Whistling
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mx5471 2/12/2013 5:32pm
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How about tits after the start.
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Choppy 2/12/2013 5:40pm
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Choppy wrote:
What would all of you prefer they put after the start?

Anyone??? Anyone???
WhipMeister wrote:
I dunno. How about asking Stewart and Reed (I'm sure I'm leaving one fastest man on the planet or another out) what kind of section they...
I dunno. How about asking Stewart and Reed (I'm sure I'm leaving one fastest man on the planet or another out) what kind of section they can get through after the first turn without taking themselves and anybody else out so we get to see a nice, clean, competitive race to the checkers (or, excuse me...

THE CANDLES!!!!!



)? Blink Whistling
They've both crashed on just about every obstacle coming out of a first turn. Heck they've even crashed before the first turn in the straight.

Should we just eliminate starts altogether?

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