Dungey or Villopoto

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Outsider 2/3/2013 12:38pm
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Villopoto has had 2 rides now where he blew starts and couldn't really make up any ground. He doesn't look like he is doing too well...
Villopoto has had 2 rides now where he blew starts and couldn't really make up any ground. He doesn't look like he is doing too well making up time. He is falling down all by himself. For this reason I think it will be Dungey or Milsaps.
Actually, he came from way back to 10th, fell, and then came from 18th to 8th last night. Not the most stellar performance, but he can come through the pack. This is a crazy season, a lot of people have a shot at winning!

I don't believe Dungey can get it done, unless..

1) He can get consistently great starts from here on out and keeps the aggression he showed last night (finally)
2) RV keeps crashing and the other guys have bad nights

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Actually, he came from way back to 10th, fell, and then came from 18th to 8th last night. Not the most stellar performance, but he can...
Actually, he came from way back to 10th, fell, and then came from 18th to 8th last night. Not the most stellar performance, but he can come through the pack. This is a crazy season, a lot of people have a shot at winning!

I don't believe Dungey can get it done, unless..

1) He can get consistently great starts from here on out and keeps the aggression he showed last night (finally)
2) RV keeps crashing and the other guys have bad nights

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I dont think RV will win the tittle unless Dungey starts crashingLaughing
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nc97 wrote:
I dont think RV will win the tittle unless Dungey starts crashingLaughing
Care to lose another $20 betting against RV? Woohoo Wink
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You got it.. Woohoo

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Beats me. Just enjoying it. Pretty sure RV just needs to keep being RV and RD just needs to keep being himself as well.
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Motocross Illustrated wrote:
Just for arguments sake, if Milsapps stops this amazing consistency run, who would you pick for the Championships? Safe and steady Dungey? Or fast (and Stewart...
Just for arguments sake, if Milsapps stops this amazing consistency run, who would you pick for the Championships? Safe and steady Dungey? Or fast (and Stewart consistency like) Villopoto? I go with Dungey.
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nc97 wrote:
I dont think RV will win the tittle unless Dungey starts crashingLaughing
I agree, other then the 2011 SX title, RV needed RD to either get injured (2012 SX) or have mechanical issues (2011 MX) to win the title. It's funny how both have benefited equally from the others misfortune yet it is only the RV fantards that continually bring this BS up. The one that gets me the most is the 2010 SX title, RV is down 12 points with 4 races remaining. So at St Louis RV decides to take RD out, RD catches back up, RV freaks and has a major brain fart. I guess RV being there for the first 14 races is the same as not being there.
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I agree, other then the 2011 SX title, RV needed RD to either get injured (2012 SX) or have mechanical issues (2011 MX) to win the...
I agree, other then the 2011 SX title, RV needed RD to either get injured (2012 SX) or have mechanical issues (2011 MX) to win the title. It's funny how both have benefited equally from the others misfortune yet it is only the RV fantards that continually bring this BS up. The one that gets me the most is the 2010 SX title, RV is down 12 points with 4 races remaining. So at St Louis RV decides to take RD out, RD catches back up, RV freaks and has a major brain fart. I guess RV being there for the first 14 races is the same as not being there.
I agree, other then the 2011 SX title, RV needed RD to either get injured (2012 SX) or have mechanical issues (2011 MX) to win the title. It's funny how both have benefited equally from the others misfortune yet it is only the RV fantards that continually bring this BS up

Uh, you brought it up, just like so many other times in the past. Does that mean you're an RV fantard? Pinch

Has Dungey beaten RV for a title?
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Motocross Illustrated wrote:
Just for arguments sake, if Milsapps stops this amazing consistency run, who would you pick for the Championships? Safe and steady Dungey? Or fast (and Stewart...
Just for arguments sake, if Milsapps stops this amazing consistency run, who would you pick for the Championships? Safe and steady Dungey? Or fast (and Stewart consistency like) Villopoto? I go with Dungey.
The Millsaps ball is rolling. He is as solid as Dungey. Better inside line rider than anyone. Faster than Stewart and Reed. More consistent under pressure than RV. Most importantly his results seem more important to him than anyone else at this stage of his life. Everyone has their time in the sun. JS had his, CR had his, and RV seems over confident.

JS is beat down, CR can't figure it out, RV is win or lose bad due to mistakes.

Dungey might once again back into the title with his style of riding but I feel Millsaps has more in the tank, is more willing to make passes happen, and has more speed than anyone in traffic.

Check out and win. Sure. They all can do that. When it's a actual RACE and there are battles for the top spots every lap, you would be hard pressed to beat Millsaps week in and week out.
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Marc_Honda wrote:
3rd, 8th, 6th, 3rd and 1st


Davi has

1st, 3rd, 4th, 2nd and 2nd
Cheers... I guess it's just been the LCQ races an the two outside the top 5 that put him outta my mind points wise...

Crazy night for him, should help the whole team!
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At this point, I just refuse to discount Millsaps!
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[b]I agree, other then the 2011 SX title, RV needed RD to either get injured (2012 SX) or have mechanical issues (2011 MX) to win the...
I agree, other then the 2011 SX title, RV needed RD to either get injured (2012 SX) or have mechanical issues (2011 MX) to win the title. It's funny how both have benefited equally from the others misfortune yet it is only the RV fantards that continually bring this BS up

Uh, you brought it up, just like so many other times in the past. Does that mean you're an RV fantard? Pinch

Has Dungey beaten RV for a title?
KTMKID brought it up a couple posts earlier and I made the mistake of wasting my time trying to bring reason into this RD wins when no one is there BS. The Champion is the Champion, be it RV, RD, or maybe Millsaps this year. Why is that so hard for RV fans to fricken accept. Now if you have any valid thing to say regarding what I said, say it., but don't just respond with some dumbass question like "Has Dungey beaten RV for a title?".
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Personally i don't care for stats and facts on previous years as much when looking at this year as it's a very different Championship.

There are way more guys who could easily win rounds,who'd bet on Stewart,Reed,Canard and possibly one of two more not nailing a victory?

Starts are even more vital,there's no recovering from a bad one as in many previous years,with the amount of riders that can run the top pace,I think Dungey has the consistencey to average out the title,Villopoto has hada seasons worth of crashes so far and I can't help feeling that's ultimately going to cost him the top spot in the end,
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Husqerdo wrote:
KTMKID brought it up a couple posts earlier and I made the mistake of wasting my time trying to bring reason into this RD wins when...
KTMKID brought it up a couple posts earlier and I made the mistake of wasting my time trying to bring reason into this RD wins when no one is there BS. The Champion is the Champion, be it RV, RD, or maybe Millsaps this year. Why is that so hard for RV fans to fricken accept. Now if you have any valid thing to say regarding what I said, say it., but don't just respond with some dumbass question like "Has Dungey beaten RV for a title?".
The question posed by the OP is clear, so, seeing that RV has beaten Dungey for all his titles, I have to bring that to the discussion.

Why is that so hard for "some" Dungey fans to fricken accept?
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Husqerdo wrote:
I agree, other then the 2011 SX title, RV needed RD to either get injured (2012 SX) or have mechanical issues (2011 MX) to win the...
I agree, other then the 2011 SX title, RV needed RD to either get injured (2012 SX) or have mechanical issues (2011 MX) to win the title. It's funny how both have benefited equally from the others misfortune yet it is only the RV fantards that continually bring this BS up. The one that gets me the most is the 2010 SX title, RV is down 12 points with 4 races remaining. So at St Louis RV decides to take RD out, RD catches back up, RV freaks and has a major brain fart. I guess RV being there for the first 14 races is the same as not being there.
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[b]I agree, other then the 2011 SX title, RV needed RD to either get injured (2012 SX) or have mechanical issues (2011 MX) to win the...
I agree, other then the 2011 SX title, RV needed RD to either get injured (2012 SX) or have mechanical issues (2011 MX) to win the title. It's funny how both have benefited equally from the others misfortune yet it is only the RV fantards that continually bring this BS up

Uh, you brought it up, just like so many other times in the past. Does that mean you're an RV fantard? Pinch

Has Dungey beaten RV for a title?
Pretty stupid to try to claim RV wasn't there in 2010 when Dungey did win the SX title. RV didn't crash out until round 14. RD was the points leader from round 2.

What titles has RV won where Dungey didn't have a mechanical or miss race due to a practice injury?

2011 SX Dungey lost by 10 points, after losing 15 or more points due to losing his chain.
2011 MX Dungey lost 25 points running out of fuel at Freestone. He lost the title by 12 points.
2012 SX Dungey missed 5 races due to injury(125 possible points). RV missed 2 races(50 points). That's a difference of 75 points. Dungey lost the title by 66 points
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malachi177 2/3/2013 4:52pm
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Why is it so hard for RV nutsucklers to realize this. NO he hasn't beaten RD for any of his titles..... **derailed chain**-11'SX, **out of gas**-11'MX, 13 points behind RV when **broken collarbone* made him miss 6 rounds '12-SX. What titles has RV won when RD has completed every race of a series????? A big fat '0' Whistling ....please entertain me with your logic because you fanboys always want to discredit RD's Championships. But what you can't see is that if there is an ** to Championships (which there's not) then RV's are just as tainted as well.
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malachi177 2/3/2013 4:56pm
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feint you posted while I was typing....lol
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Also worth noting that RV was 12 points down, with 4 races left when he crashed out in 2010. RD was 13 points down with 8 races left when he missed races last year...then RV crashed himself out of that the race RD came back. You can't discredit Dungey while praising RV.

Both are great and earned their championships.

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malachi177 wrote:
Why is it so hard for RV nutsucklers to realize this. NO he hasn't beaten RD for any of his titles..... **derailed chain**-11'SX, **out of gas**-11'MX...
Why is it so hard for RV nutsucklers to realize this. NO he hasn't beaten RD for any of his titles..... **derailed chain**-11'SX, **out of gas**-11'MX, 13 points behind RV when **broken collarbone* made him miss 6 rounds '12-SX. What titles has RV won when RD has completed every race of a series????? A big fat '0' Whistling ....please entertain me with your logic because you fanboys always want to discredit RD's Championships. But what you can't see is that if there is an ** to Championships (which there's not) then RV's are just as tainted as well.
Has Dungey won a championship that RV has completed? No... it's just a fact, not an attack on your guy.
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malachi177 wrote:
Why is it so hard for RV nutsucklers to realize this. NO he hasn't beaten RD for any of his titles..... **derailed chain**-11'SX, **out of gas**-11'MX...
Why is it so hard for RV nutsucklers to realize this. NO he hasn't beaten RD for any of his titles..... **derailed chain**-11'SX, **out of gas**-11'MX, 13 points behind RV when **broken collarbone* made him miss 6 rounds '12-SX. What titles has RV won when RD has completed every race of a series????? A big fat '0' Whistling ....please entertain me with your logic because you fanboys always want to discredit RD's Championships. But what you can't see is that if there is an ** to Championships (which there's not) then RV's are just as tainted as well.
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Has Dungey won a championship that RV has completed? No... it's just a fact, not an attack on your guy.
2010 Sx?
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Barrett57 2/3/2013 6:53pm
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Why do some of you to feel the need to prove that "your" rider is better?

They have an equal amount of big bike titles and both have benefited from each others misfortune, i just hope they stay healthy and keep putting on a show.
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Barrett57 wrote:
Why do some of you to feel the need to prove that "your" rider is better? They have an equal amount of big bike titles and...
Why do some of you to feel the need to prove that "your" rider is better?

They have an equal amount of big bike titles and both have benefited from each others misfortune, i just hope they stay healthy and keep putting on a show.
At least with me, I don't try to convince people that Dungey is better. However, I don't like that so many people don't give him the credit he deserves.
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Everyone says Poto which is obvious given his speed, much like everyone thought James would be an easy winner. BUT, I'm going for 22 & 18 & 5. The LCQ said a lot about #5 and I liked it.
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malachi177 2/3/2013 7:54pm
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Feint wrote:
At least with me, I don't try to convince people that Dungey is better. However, I don't like that so many people don't give him the...
At least with me, I don't try to convince people that Dungey is better. However, I don't like that so many people don't give him the credit he deserves.
^same^
aaryn #234 2/3/2013 9:47pm
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IN the supercross championship each rider has the opportunity to line up and complete 17 races for the season. IF they don't line up for all 17 races OR crash out of one of those races OR have a mechanical in one of those races, TO FUCKING BAD! That is why it is called a championship.

Who ever stands with the number one plate at the end of the year does so because, They and their team have out done everyone else in the world who could have possibly shown up to race,

That freaking simple people.

Now to the question at hand, Dungey V Villopoto for the title this year

Dungey

But trying to predict anything this season is crazy!
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pilotdude 2/3/2013 9:56pm
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I think they are both great, Hard to root against either one actually. RV is a local rider so I'm biased.
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It's going to come down to RD or RV for the title. These are the only 2 guys winning titles since 2010 and its going to stay that way for probably atleast 5 more years. Sorry other riders. RV has the edge in speed, dungey has the edge in consistency. rv has the edge in supercross, rd in motocross. best of all, they are buddies and race clean. props to davi barcia and canard but i dont think they have what it takes to be 450 champion judging from their years past. reed and stewart should retire before A1 2014...
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RV started in 09 actually
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RD5.. i think the win will be a turning point for him. Give him faith in his set up

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