Project: YZ250R

TCI Performance 11/19/2012 12:09pm
11/19/2012 12:09pm
TCI Performance wrote:
There are several reason for this build other then the obvious which is the looks and modernizing of the dated YZ250. We wanted to build something...
There are several reason for this build other then the obvious which is the looks and modernizing of the dated YZ250. We wanted to build something that will allow us to further develop new technologies into the bike (i.e. DFI and so on) and this build gives us the platform we need in order to do so. There are also several key technical changes that were made to enhance the handling especially cornering that is not obvious by looking at the pictures.

There will be more information available soon. We currently finishing up the final stage of the build and then we go into additional track testing of suspension and intake system setup followed by Dyno runs.
OriolMassot wrote:
Did you say DFI?

Man, If you develop anything to update the YZ250, get ready for a big demand.
Yes DFI or EFI depending on what system makes more sense from the design point of view. This will be for our YZ250Ri project which if succesfull will be out towards the end of next year. For now we are planning on testing a new alternative intake system besides the standard carburator.
TCI Performance 11/19/2012 12:22pm
11/19/2012 12:22pm
Falcon wrote:
I'm saving for one right now. Any plans to build it for limited production?

I just noticed the Hydraulic clutch. Nice touch!
The short answer is yes. After we completely evaluated the bike with extensive testing we are planning on building them in groups of 5 to keep the price down as much as possible. Two of them are already spoken for. The price is uknown at this point as we are trying to work with the manufacturer on getting the needed components so we don't have to buy complete bikes which drives the price up quite a bit. Our plan is to build them new but if that is not possible we will look into other alternatives. More info on that as we are getting feedback on our inquieries.
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ehr400 11/19/2012 12:45pm
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Falcon wrote:
I'm saving for one right now. Any plans to build it for limited production?

I just noticed the Hydraulic clutch. Nice touch!
TCI Performance wrote:
The short answer is yes. After we completely evaluated the bike with extensive testing we are planning on building them in groups of 5 to keep...
The short answer is yes. After we completely evaluated the bike with extensive testing we are planning on building them in groups of 5 to keep the price down as much as possible. Two of them are already spoken for. The price is uknown at this point as we are trying to work with the manufacturer on getting the needed components so we don't have to buy complete bikes which drives the price up quite a bit. Our plan is to build them new but if that is not possible we will look into other alternatives. More info on that as we are getting feedback on our inquieries.
Who is the manufacturer? What year motors are you using in it? Bike looks great but if you could give more details it would be sweet!
Sheriff245 11/19/2012 12:51pm
11/19/2012 12:51pm
Any plans for a DIY frame conversion kit? I've got a YZ250F rolling chassis and YZ250 engine ready for the conversion.

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Lightning78 11/19/2012 1:43pm
11/19/2012 1:43pm
TCI Performance wrote:
There are several reason for this build other then the obvious which is the looks and modernizing of the dated YZ250. We wanted to build something...
There are several reason for this build other then the obvious which is the looks and modernizing of the dated YZ250. We wanted to build something that will allow us to further develop new technologies into the bike (i.e. DFI and so on) and this build gives us the platform we need in order to do so. There are also several key technical changes that were made to enhance the handling especially cornering that is not obvious by looking at the pictures.

There will be more information available soon. We currently finishing up the final stage of the build and then we go into additional track testing of suspension and intake system setup followed by Dyno runs.
OriolMassot wrote:
Did you say DFI?

Man, If you develop anything to update the YZ250, get ready for a big demand.
TCI Performance wrote:
Yes DFI or EFI depending on what system makes more sense from the design point of view. This will be for our YZ250Ri project which if...
Yes DFI or EFI depending on what system makes more sense from the design point of view. This will be for our YZ250Ri project which if succesfull will be out towards the end of next year. For now we are planning on testing a new alternative intake system besides the standard carburator.
Using one of those Boswell carbs Antunez used to run?....
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40Plus_922mx 11/19/2012 4:21pm
11/19/2012 4:21pm
you will be the Brown Brothers of this century and with 2 strokes.
TCI Performance 11/19/2012 8:30pm
11/19/2012 8:30pm
Falcon wrote:
I'm saving for one right now. Any plans to build it for limited production?

I just noticed the Hydraulic clutch. Nice touch!
TCI Performance wrote:
The short answer is yes. After we completely evaluated the bike with extensive testing we are planning on building them in groups of 5 to keep...
The short answer is yes. After we completely evaluated the bike with extensive testing we are planning on building them in groups of 5 to keep the price down as much as possible. Two of them are already spoken for. The price is uknown at this point as we are trying to work with the manufacturer on getting the needed components so we don't have to buy complete bikes which drives the price up quite a bit. Our plan is to build them new but if that is not possible we will look into other alternatives. More info on that as we are getting feedback on our inquieries.
ehr400 wrote:
Who is the manufacturer? What year motors are you using in it? Bike looks great but if you could give more details it would be sweet!
For this initial platform build we used a modified 2012 Yamaha YZ250F chassis with a 2008 YZ250 Motor but newer motors up to the most recent year will fit.
TCI Performance 11/19/2012 8:33pm
11/19/2012 8:33pm
Sheriff245 wrote:
Any plans for a DIY frame conversion kit? I've got a YZ250F rolling chassis and YZ250 engine ready for the conversion.
There is a possibility that we will offer a conversion kit. We are working out the details as it does take quite a bit of fab work. More info on that later down the road.
TCI Performance 11/19/2012 8:49pm
11/19/2012 8:49pm Edited Date/Time 11/19/2012 9:26pm
Thank you all for the positive replies and letting us share our passion for the sport and the two stroke in particular.

One of the key element in this build was to maintain the fit for aftermarket and OEM parts such as pipe, silencer, plastics and so on. That way if you needed to change out or wanting to try a different pipe or plastic setup you can just bolt it straight on without having to mod anything. There are many more "Bolt On" upgrades for it but we wanted to keep it simple and focus on the raw design aspects of the bike.

We will continue to update as we go along with videos and "first ride" impression write ups from a selected group of individuals as well as dyno testing results of the new intake system once available to us.
Sheriff245 11/21/2012 4:23pm
11/21/2012 4:23pm
Sheriff245 wrote:
Any plans for a DIY frame conversion kit? I've got a YZ250F rolling chassis and YZ250 engine ready for the conversion.
TCI Performance wrote:
There is a possibility that we will offer a conversion kit. We are working out the details as it does take quite a bit of fab...
There is a possibility that we will offer a conversion kit. We are working out the details as it does take quite a bit of fab work. More info on that later down the road.
That's good to know. Any idea of a ballpark for pricing or availability? I should be ready to convert the frame some time next spring. Any chance it would be out by then?
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rohleder644 11/21/2012 5:42pm
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Hando wrote:
So does it handle better w/ the 450 frame?? Its a cool bike and all but to be honest..isn't the YZ250 pretty close to perfect. Every...
So does it handle better w/ the 450 frame??


Its a cool bike and all but to be honest..isn't the YZ250 pretty close to perfect. Every time i see one at the track, they are usually bone stock....cant say i can say the same for alot of other bikes, including my own cr250
i've often wondered the same thing......the project, along with many others, is very cool. i find it unecessary. i've got a couple yz250s. love the bike, and don't think it needs improvement. that being said, i haven't ridden this or any other conversion. might be a world of improvement. and if it the industry was full of guys like me, we'd still be riding metal tanked dual shockers.
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rodb 11/21/2012 5:43pm
11/21/2012 5:43pm
I like it!!!
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dv12.com 11/21/2012 5:47pm
11/21/2012 5:47pm
I want one...
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exsarg 11/21/2012 6:13pm
11/21/2012 6:13pm Edited Date/Time 11/21/2012 6:20pm
dv12.com wrote:
I want one...
i will put in a good word for ya... what r u ridin these days? you must have a fleet of bikes
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OriolMassot 11/22/2012 4:00am
11/22/2012 4:00am
DV, we have seen you riding a KXF450 recently... Do not lie at us! :-)
twosmoke30 11/22/2012 9:16am
11/22/2012 9:16am
OriolMassot wrote:
DV, we have seen you riding a KXF450 recently... Do not lie at us! :-)
probably a loaner
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DrSweden 11/22/2012 12:17pm
11/22/2012 12:17pm
Very ambitious project!!! Me like, if half being aimed, is achieved, one will be very impressed.

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TCI Performance 11/25/2012 4:31pm
11/25/2012 4:31pm Edited Date/Time 11/25/2012 4:32pm
Sheriff245 wrote:
Any plans for a DIY frame conversion kit? I've got a YZ250F rolling chassis and YZ250 engine ready for the conversion.
TCI Performance wrote:
There is a possibility that we will offer a conversion kit. We are working out the details as it does take quite a bit of fab...
There is a possibility that we will offer a conversion kit. We are working out the details as it does take quite a bit of fab work. More info on that later down the road.
Sheriff245 wrote:
That's good to know. Any idea of a ballpark for pricing or availability? I should be ready to convert the frame some time next spring. Any...
That's good to know. Any idea of a ballpark for pricing or availability? I should be ready to convert the frame some time next spring. Any chance it would be out by then?
We have no time frame for the DIY kits at this point as the Gen1 frame will go through track/durability testing for the next 6 month first. We are planning on the Gen2 frame to be released mid next year which will be used on our YZ250R DFI project and our goal is to have the bike ready for the 2013 2-Stroke National at Glen Helen.
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MXBOY2661 11/25/2012 4:39pm
11/25/2012 4:39pm
I think the project n bike is absolutly alsome , but i cant c how it could b afforable or realistic to make n sell to the general public.looks like a sweet bike though for sure
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seth505 11/25/2012 4:52pm
11/25/2012 4:52pm
So sick, beautiful. I have to go hug my yz 250 for having impure thoughts now Smile .
SMITTY856 11/26/2012 11:06am
11/26/2012 11:06am
i would like to have a DFI or EFI on my yz250.. someone sell that tech. to me
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dv12.com 11/26/2012 2:12pm
11/26/2012 2:12pm
OriolMassot wrote:
DV, we have seen you riding a KXF450 recently... Do not lie at us! :-)
twosmoke30 wrote:
probably a loaner
Yep, it was a bike from the Bud Racing Team in France... I only have a rusted 1998 Factory YZ125 in France...
Sheriff245 11/26/2012 3:48pm
11/26/2012 3:48pm
dv12.com wrote:
Yep, it was a bike from the Bud Racing Team in France... I only have a rusted 1998 Factory YZ125 in France...
C'est le temps ou jamais de le dérouiller Smile
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OriolMassot wrote:
DV, we have seen you riding a KXF450 recently... Do not lie at us! :-)
twosmoke30 wrote:
probably a loaner
dv12.com wrote:
Yep, it was a bike from the Bud Racing Team in France... I only have a rusted 1998 Factory YZ125 in France...
Rusted? Sounds like my kind of project. Smile 4 sale?
TCI Performance 1/12/2013 9:30am
1/12/2013 9:30am
DONE!!!! With the first few test session behind us the bike is working better than expected.

APT SmartCarb works awesome so far and we are heading onto the Dyno next week for data.

More info to follow within the next couple of weeks.

















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exsarg 1/12/2013 9:53am
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wow. !!!!! god damn
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OriolMassot 1/12/2013 9:59am
1/12/2013 9:59am
Yeeehaaa!!!

Can't wait to see a video of this thing!!!! Thanks!
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DPR250R 1/12/2013 10:59am
1/12/2013 10:59am
Awesome....

Some pics of just the engine in the frame can be found on TSM.com

Can't get them to embed for some reason.
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watson 1/12/2013 11:35am
1/12/2013 11:35am
Work of art! Glad someone is doing the holy work of a DFI/EFI Two stroke Wink

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