Trey Canard and BamBam testing...

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11/17/2012 3:23pm
peelout wrote:
i have a really good feeling Barcia will be the top dog at Honda by the end of the year. i know Trey has won races...
i have a really good feeling Barcia will be the top dog at Honda by the end of the year.

i know Trey has won races in the past and has shown amazing speed,

but Barcia is definitely the guy with the agression and apparent desire to win at Honda.

(that isn't saying Trey and Reed don't show the same, i just feel Barcia REALLY shows it)
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I am betting he doesn't win a race, but if he does it will be in the first say 5... and I also bet he doesn't...
I am betting he doesn't win a race, but if he does it will be in the first say 5... and I also bet he doesn't finish the season, blows up with an crash related injury...

But i'll watch, cause it will be exciting till he does.
Barcia? Barcia is on point indoors. I am racking my brain to think of any crazy get-off's by him the past two season's. Even outdoors, this last season, he seemed planted and mature. Very mentally tough, defended his position, but would take 2nd to Bagget if he had to. No reason he won't contend right away. He will probably be the best starter on the gate and what a huge advantage that is.
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11/17/2012 3:53pm Edited Date/Time 11/17/2012 3:54pm
mrquick wrote:
Barcia doesn't have the speed to run with Canard....That also goes for Reed and Dungey.
zook11 wrote:
You're kidding?
Sad thing is i don't think he is.... Didn't Canard shatter his leg trying to keep up with Dungey?
11/17/2012 4:35pm
mrquick wrote:
Barcia doesn't have the speed to run with Canard....That also goes for Reed and Dungey.
zook11 wrote:
You're kidding?
Husqerdo wrote:
Sad thing is i don't think he is.... Didn't Canard shatter his leg trying to keep up with Dungey?
In his first race back, after catching him...
11/17/2012 4:38pm
Is TC going to be 100% for A1? I remember his camp sounding non-committal about even being at A1 a few months back. I know it looks like he's on track to be at the line, but at 100%? 2 femurs and a broken back in that short of time is really absurd.

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11/17/2012 6:21pm
zook11 wrote:
You're kidding?
Husqerdo wrote:
Sad thing is i don't think he is.... Didn't Canard shatter his leg trying to keep up with Dungey?
TripleFive wrote:
In his first race back, after catching him...
I'm a big trey fan , I got to meet him his first year at a Perkins before Millville at all places, he has the speed to run with anyone on any given day.

I think he's got more than Barcia but that's me.
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11/17/2012 6:25pm
zook11 wrote:
You're kidding?
Husqerdo wrote:
Sad thing is i don't think he is.... Didn't Canard shatter his leg trying to keep up with Dungey?
TripleFive wrote:
In his first race back, after catching him...
Second race. Trey is a match for dungey for sure, I'd like to see a season full of year long battles. Crazy scrubbing vs spot on cornering.
11/17/2012 9:34pm
Husqerdo wrote:
Sad thing is i don't think he is.... Didn't Canard shatter his leg trying to keep up with Dungey?
TripleFive wrote:
In his first race back, after catching him...
Flatliner wrote:
Second race. Trey is a match for dungey for sure, I'd like to see a season full of year long battles. Crazy scrubbing vs spot on...
Second race. Trey is a match for dungey for sure, I'd like to see a season full of year long battles. Crazy scrubbing vs spot on cornering.
Canard hasn't proven he can win outdoors against these guys. He was working on Dungey when he crashed, but that's about all you can say about it. And he sure didn't have the fitness to hold him off, even if he managed to find a way around.

Trey hasn't raced at the top guys' pace essentially since April 2011, and meanwhile these guys have gotten faster. It certainly looks like the odds are against him scoring a win this season, but with any luck he'll get a lot of racing under his belt and a handful of podiums and go outdoors feeling like a contender.

We all want to see him do well, Husqerdo of course being the only exception.
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11/17/2012 9:39pm
kardy wrote:
Has Barcia ever failed to finish a season due to injury or anything else? This year he won his Lites regional title (again), went on to...
Has Barcia ever failed to finish a season due to injury or anything else? This year he won his Lites regional title (again), went on to 2nd in the Nats with a couple of wins, was the top American at MXdN, then won Monster Cup. It just makes no sense to me to paint him as an injury-prone crasher especially after the year he just had.
Crush wrote:
I'm not painting him as anything... He'll be good, and he'll come out like a scolded cat hence why I think if he gets it done...
I'm not painting him as anything... He'll be good, and he'll come out like a scolded cat hence why I think if he gets it done it will be early. I just don't see him finishing the season.

He does ride really really really agro and even if he calms down a bit he still rides harder than most... That might get him on the big bike as it has many other guys the past...

But now that you mention it... Pretty sure he didn't finish his first two outdoor seasons due to injury...
You couldn't be more far off crush, you should check the stats
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11/17/2012 9:51pm
kardy wrote:
Has Barcia ever failed to finish a season due to injury or anything else? This year he won his Lites regional title (again), went on to...
Has Barcia ever failed to finish a season due to injury or anything else? This year he won his Lites regional title (again), went on to 2nd in the Nats with a couple of wins, was the top American at MXdN, then won Monster Cup. It just makes no sense to me to paint him as an injury-prone crasher especially after the year he just had.
Hell, he won his first championship WITH a broken wrist. Kid is bad ass.
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11/18/2012 1:22am
mrquick wrote:
Barcia doesn't have the speed to run with Canard....That also goes for Reed and Dungey.
LOL

gotta be kidding me.

U drunk, Bro?
11/18/2012 1:31am
If you asked me which one I think is more likely to get a win, I would say barcia is more of a lock. But I think they are both going to get a win this year
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11/18/2012 7:59am
TripleFive wrote:
In his first race back, after catching him...
Flatliner wrote:
Second race. Trey is a match for dungey for sure, I'd like to see a season full of year long battles. Crazy scrubbing vs spot on...
Second race. Trey is a match for dungey for sure, I'd like to see a season full of year long battles. Crazy scrubbing vs spot on cornering.
Canard hasn't proven he can win outdoors against these guys. He was working on Dungey when he crashed, but that's about all you can say about...
Canard hasn't proven he can win outdoors against these guys. He was working on Dungey when he crashed, but that's about all you can say about it. And he sure didn't have the fitness to hold him off, even if he managed to find a way around.

Trey hasn't raced at the top guys' pace essentially since April 2011, and meanwhile these guys have gotten faster. It certainly looks like the odds are against him scoring a win this season, but with any luck he'll get a lot of racing under his belt and a handful of podiums and go outdoors feeling like a contender.

We all want to see him do well, Husqerdo of course being the only exception.
Don't speak for me, I definitely want Canard to do well. However his fan-boys think he is going to come off a horrible injury and clean house. Canard had the same unrealistic goals these past years which lead to him crashing out! Give the kid some time, let him get back up to pace and take it easy this SX series without Title dreams in his head. That way he can be healthy for outdoors and win some motos.
11/18/2012 11:40am
Husqerdo wrote:
Don't speak for me, I definitely want Canard to do well. However his fan-boys think he is going to come off a horrible injury and clean...
Don't speak for me, I definitely want Canard to do well. However his fan-boys think he is going to come off a horrible injury and clean house. Canard had the same unrealistic goals these past years which lead to him crashing out! Give the kid some time, let him get back up to pace and take it easy this SX series without Title dreams in his head. That way he can be healthy for outdoors and win some motos.
Unrealistic goals? What does that mean? What unrealistic goals do you happen to know Canard set for himself?

When you're a tippy-top guy, which Trey is, winning races and championships is your goal by default. I'm not sure what else you could be talking about.
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11/18/2012 12:56pm
Husqerdo wrote:
Don't speak for me, I definitely want Canard to do well. However his fan-boys think he is going to come off a horrible injury and clean...
Don't speak for me, I definitely want Canard to do well. However his fan-boys think he is going to come off a horrible injury and clean house. Canard had the same unrealistic goals these past years which lead to him crashing out! Give the kid some time, let him get back up to pace and take it easy this SX series without Title dreams in his head. That way he can be healthy for outdoors and win some motos.
Unrealistic goals? What does that mean? What unrealistic goals do you happen to know Canard set for himself? When you're a tippy-top guy, which Trey is...
Unrealistic goals? What does that mean? What unrealistic goals do you happen to know Canard set for himself?

When you're a tippy-top guy, which Trey is, winning races and championships is your goal by default. I'm not sure what else you could be talking about.
Chill boy, just saying, after competing in only 2 races in MX since moving up to 450, and 2 in 2012 SX maybe his approach needs to be adjusted. He did show his talent during the 2011 SX until missing the last 3 rounds, and is with out a doubt capable of running in the top five. 2013 SX champion, unlike you and a few other fans, I find that unrealistic. Is that possible, anything thing is possible, but from where I'm sitting it is an unrealistic goal. I just want to see TC stay healthy and happy. I question some of the TC fans win or die BS.
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11/18/2012 1:11pm
Husqerdo wrote:
Don't speak for me, I definitely want Canard to do well. However his fan-boys think he is going to come off a horrible injury and clean...
Don't speak for me, I definitely want Canard to do well. However his fan-boys think he is going to come off a horrible injury and clean house. Canard had the same unrealistic goals these past years which lead to him crashing out! Give the kid some time, let him get back up to pace and take it easy this SX series without Title dreams in his head. That way he can be healthy for outdoors and win some motos.
Unrealistic goals? What does that mean? What unrealistic goals do you happen to know Canard set for himself? When you're a tippy-top guy, which Trey is...
Unrealistic goals? What does that mean? What unrealistic goals do you happen to know Canard set for himself?

When you're a tippy-top guy, which Trey is, winning races and championships is your goal by default. I'm not sure what else you could be talking about.
Husqerdo wrote:
Chill boy, just saying, after competing in only 2 races in MX since moving up to 450, and 2 in 2012 SX maybe his approach needs...
Chill boy, just saying, after competing in only 2 races in MX since moving up to 450, and 2 in 2012 SX maybe his approach needs to be adjusted. He did show his talent during the 2011 SX until missing the last 3 rounds, and is with out a doubt capable of running in the top five. 2013 SX champion, unlike you and a few other fans, I find that unrealistic. Is that possible, anything thing is possible, but from where I'm sitting it is an unrealistic goal. I just want to see TC stay healthy and happy. I question some of the TC fans win or die BS.
So what do you want him to do, putter around and get just a top ten finish just to say he can finish a season? Are you serious??? He is contracted to win races and that is what he will try and do. To do that he has to ride on the edge, thats what professional motocrossers do...sometimes you get unlucky and certainly Trey has had his fair share. I doubt it is in Trey's approach to not go for the win, I think his sponsors and American Honda will like him to as well.
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11/18/2012 1:34pm
mrquick wrote:
Barcia doesn't have the speed to run with Canard....That also goes for Reed and Dungey.
peelout wrote:
LOL

gotta be kidding me.

U drunk, Bro?
I'm as sober as a church mouse....I'm just telling it like it is...not trying to convince anyone otherwise.

The Canard reign starts at A1. just sayin.
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11/18/2012 2:04pm
Unrealistic goals? What does that mean? What unrealistic goals do you happen to know Canard set for himself? When you're a tippy-top guy, which Trey is...
Unrealistic goals? What does that mean? What unrealistic goals do you happen to know Canard set for himself?

When you're a tippy-top guy, which Trey is, winning races and championships is your goal by default. I'm not sure what else you could be talking about.
Husqerdo wrote:
Chill boy, just saying, after competing in only 2 races in MX since moving up to 450, and 2 in 2012 SX maybe his approach needs...
Chill boy, just saying, after competing in only 2 races in MX since moving up to 450, and 2 in 2012 SX maybe his approach needs to be adjusted. He did show his talent during the 2011 SX until missing the last 3 rounds, and is with out a doubt capable of running in the top five. 2013 SX champion, unlike you and a few other fans, I find that unrealistic. Is that possible, anything thing is possible, but from where I'm sitting it is an unrealistic goal. I just want to see TC stay healthy and happy. I question some of the TC fans win or die BS.
kiwifan wrote:
So what do you want him to do, putter around and get just a top ten finish just to say he can finish a season? Are...
So what do you want him to do, putter around and get just a top ten finish just to say he can finish a season? Are you serious??? He is contracted to win races and that is what he will try and do. To do that he has to ride on the edge, thats what professional motocrossers do...sometimes you get unlucky and certainly Trey has had his fair share. I doubt it is in Trey's approach to not go for the win, I think his sponsors and American Honda will like him to as well.
Pull your head out of your ass and read what I wrote. Can you comprehend the reality of TC's 450 record? It is amazing how some self proclaimed TC fans find it better for him to crash out (and almost end his career) then to actually compete for a entire season.
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11/18/2012 5:50pm
Husqerdo wrote:
Chill boy, just saying, after competing in only 2 races in MX since moving up to 450, and 2 in 2012 SX maybe his approach needs...
Chill boy, just saying, after competing in only 2 races in MX since moving up to 450, and 2 in 2012 SX maybe his approach needs to be adjusted. He did show his talent during the 2011 SX until missing the last 3 rounds, and is with out a doubt capable of running in the top five. 2013 SX champion, unlike you and a few other fans, I find that unrealistic. Is that possible, anything thing is possible, but from where I'm sitting it is an unrealistic goal. I just want to see TC stay healthy and happy. I question some of the TC fans win or die BS.
kiwifan wrote:
So what do you want him to do, putter around and get just a top ten finish just to say he can finish a season? Are...
So what do you want him to do, putter around and get just a top ten finish just to say he can finish a season? Are you serious??? He is contracted to win races and that is what he will try and do. To do that he has to ride on the edge, thats what professional motocrossers do...sometimes you get unlucky and certainly Trey has had his fair share. I doubt it is in Trey's approach to not go for the win, I think his sponsors and American Honda will like him to as well.
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Pull your head out of your ass and read what I wrote. Can you comprehend the reality of TC's 450 record? It is amazing how some...
Pull your head out of your ass and read what I wrote. Can you comprehend the reality of TC's 450 record? It is amazing how some self proclaimed TC fans find it better for him to crash out (and almost end his career) then to actually compete for a entire season.
But you have completely missed my point.

From what I can see you want him to not race for the win, just finish each race and stay injury free.

Now pull your head in, what factory is going to want their rider to just get points and stay injury free? They are paying thair riders big bucks to get results i.e. win championships, there is ALWAYS a risk of them getting injured because of the speed of these guys these days.

TC has had some injuries, we all know that...but it is not in his DNA to just ride around staying taking less risks to stay injury free, that is his call. As soon as you do that you wont be winning a championship.

Why dont you write to Trey telling him not to race at 110%, I am sure he will tell you to knob off (in a nice way of course).

Why dont you write to Honda and all his sponsors and say ...hey guys, please tell Trey not to ride at 110% because I dont want him to get hurt again ...I ma sure they will tell you to knob off as well

By the way, his last major accident was pure and simple bad luck, not because he was riding over his head ...pure and simple bad luck. When was the last time you saw that sort of accident??
11/18/2012 7:24pm
Husqerdo wrote:
Chill boy, just saying, after competing in only 2 races in MX since moving up to 450, and 2 in 2012 SX maybe his approach needs...
Chill boy, just saying, after competing in only 2 races in MX since moving up to 450, and 2 in 2012 SX maybe his approach needs to be adjusted. He did show his talent during the 2011 SX until missing the last 3 rounds, and is with out a doubt capable of running in the top five. 2013 SX champion, unlike you and a few other fans, I find that unrealistic. Is that possible, anything thing is possible, but from where I'm sitting it is an unrealistic goal. I just want to see TC stay healthy and happy. I question some of the TC fans win or die BS.
I never said Canard had a realistic shot at the title this year. Not in SX, anyway.

When he first injured himself in 2011 he was testing for the coming outdoor season. At that point, why would goals of race wins and a title be unrealistic?

When he finally entered the series at Millville six rounds in or whatever, I'm positive he had no intention of winning the championship. Probably not that second moto at Washougal either, since he got left in moto1. Nope, no unrealistic goals there. Just got a little too revved up is all.

This year he was willing to skip A1 to make sure he was ready. Probably no championship goals there. In L.A. he qualified 9th, behind Millsaps, Brayton, Weimer and Tedesco, and finished 3rd in his heat race, posting a lap a full .5 seconds off Dungey's best, who was himself a second off Villopoto. Looks like he was keeping it within his limits to me.

In closing, I'm pretty sure you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
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11/19/2012 6:25pm
Husqerdo wrote:
Chill boy, just saying, after competing in only 2 races in MX since moving up to 450, and 2 in 2012 SX maybe his approach needs...
Chill boy, just saying, after competing in only 2 races in MX since moving up to 450, and 2 in 2012 SX maybe his approach needs to be adjusted. He did show his talent during the 2011 SX until missing the last 3 rounds, and is with out a doubt capable of running in the top five. 2013 SX champion, unlike you and a few other fans, I find that unrealistic. Is that possible, anything thing is possible, but from where I'm sitting it is an unrealistic goal. I just want to see TC stay healthy and happy. I question some of the TC fans win or die BS.
I never said Canard had a realistic shot at the title this year. Not in SX, anyway. When he first injured himself in 2011 he was...
I never said Canard had a realistic shot at the title this year. Not in SX, anyway.

When he first injured himself in 2011 he was testing for the coming outdoor season. At that point, why would goals of race wins and a title be unrealistic?

When he finally entered the series at Millville six rounds in or whatever, I'm positive he had no intention of winning the championship. Probably not that second moto at Washougal either, since he got left in moto1. Nope, no unrealistic goals there. Just got a little too revved up is all.

This year he was willing to skip A1 to make sure he was ready. Probably no championship goals there. In L.A. he qualified 9th, behind Millsaps, Brayton, Weimer and Tedesco, and finished 3rd in his heat race, posting a lap a full .5 seconds off Dungey's best, who was himself a second off Villopoto. Looks like he was keeping it within his limits to me.

In closing, I'm pretty sure you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
WTF is tippy-top, TC has finished where in the 450 class? I think you should just except reality, and.... give it up dumbass.
11/19/2012 8:42pm
Husqerdo wrote:
WTF is tippy-top, TC has finished where in the 450 class? I think you should just except reality, and.... give it up dumbass.
So instead of acknowledging anything I just wrote you conveniently fixate on a silly word I used several posts ago. Interesting that you didn't catch it the first time you responded. A good gauge I guess for how carefully you're reading what others are saying.

Tippy-top, as it was used above, means a dude or bro who can win on any given night. Mind-bending, I know.
11/19/2012 9:47pm
mrquick wrote:
Barcia doesn't have the speed to run with Canard....That also goes for Reed and Dungey.
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11/19/2012 10:09pm
mrquick wrote:
Barcia doesn't have the speed to run with Canard....That also goes for Reed and Dungey.
Where the hell can I get whatever it is you are smoking??

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