HTF Does Chiz Not Have A Ride?

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Markout 10/25/2012 9:17am
10/25/2012 9:17am
There is a lot more that goes into hiring a guy, and every company tells you good things, only to find out you didn't get the job. Maybe his interview skills aren't as good, who knows? I can tell you one thing, making comments like that on twitter is a reason not to give him a job. It may hurt his chances with another team as well.
Revelstoked 10/25/2012 9:45am
10/25/2012 9:45am
I love how everybody now assumes that Chiz was asking for a bunch of money and that Hill is riding for free, just cause some poster supposed it 's the case...

Even for the same $ i'd get Hill, common the guy seems to be healed and was running with RV and Dungey last time we saw him ready! Not saying he'll be there right away, but he has the talent to get top 5 within a few rounds, while Chiz doesn't. BTW, is that field stacked, as seen on that list somebody made above. Top ten will be a great performance next year, damm even to qualify for the main will mean something. Was a good call for JT$ to retire!
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HenryA 10/25/2012 9:59am
10/25/2012 9:59am Edited Date/Time 10/25/2012 10:01am
The fuck is happening, the list of unsigned riders is too long. Like, i get if some random 20th place guy doesnt get a ride but the list of names that are unsigned right now is crazy.
I REALLY hope that the unsigned riders gets a deal anytime soon, heck, there is even some podium material still out there. Make a team with Pourcel, Chisholm, and Hansen. A team like that could...no...WILL have some podium finishes here and there.
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MT MX 10/25/2012 10:08am
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Maybe RCH didn't want the distraction from Chiz and Tickle being such good friends.
Kyle will find a ride and I gaurantee he'll be on the line for A1. I GUARANTEE it. Some of utes need to calm down.

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TX24 10/25/2012 10:10am
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Markout wrote:
There is a lot more that goes into hiring a guy, and every company tells you good things, only to find out you didn't get the...
There is a lot more that goes into hiring a guy, and every company tells you good things, only to find out you didn't get the job. Maybe his interview skills aren't as good, who knows? I can tell you one thing, making comments like that on twitter is a reason not to give him a job. It may hurt his chances with another team as well.
Exactly.
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BobbyM 10/25/2012 10:11am
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hill may never get up to speed...one too many backflips
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flyinb501 10/25/2012 10:37am
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I feel bad for Chiz, but I'm sure he will land on his feet. He is solid. Hill on the other hand... I don't think he would've been picked up if not for RCH, and I really would like to see this kid make a comeback.
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IceMan446 10/25/2012 11:11am
10/25/2012 11:11am Edited Date/Time 10/25/2012 11:12am
Its not how you handle success, its how you handle failure.

Say RCH needed a fill in rider for an injured Hill. Do you think they would pick Chiz if he were available? Probably not after what he had to say about the ordeal.

Who needed who more? Looks like RCH made it clear.

Dont know the details but there was a reason they picked Hill over Chislom.
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mag23 10/25/2012 11:41am
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what did everybody expect? Complain to the donkeys who made up the lites points rules. Not saying Chiz would be a lites team candidate, but wtf do you expect with a system like sx has? Flawed rationale and judgement forcing a professional racer out of a classification... dumbs down the lites class, and puts guys like Chiz, Hanny and IT9 on the sidelines, or in a pickup truck.
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chrisbuehler 10/25/2012 12:20pm
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BobbyM wrote:
hill may never get up to speed...one too many backflips
Absolutely true. Let's he does though
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chrisbuehler 10/25/2012 3:51pm
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Why does Tedesco deserve a ride?
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When y'all foot the bill and run a supercross team of your own you can put any rider you want on it. Until then put chiz on your fantasy team if you like him so much.
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chrisbuehler wrote:
Why does Tedesco deserve a ride?
Don't know. I kinda feel bad for the H&H guys. Kenny mentioned on the pulp show that their relationship went sour. Along with Hanny's. Sucks because Kenny and Hart have done a lot for both of them for quite a few years.
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englishman 10/25/2012 4:12pm
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Chiz will be back at JWR.
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umagumadog wrote:
When y'all foot the bill and run a supercross team of your own you can put any rider you want on it. Until then put chiz...
When y'all foot the bill and run a supercross team of your own you can put any rider you want on it. Until then put chiz on your fantasy team if you like him so much.
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machine 10/25/2012 4:46pm
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RCH is rolling the dice with Hill, but it might pay off and don't have much to lose in the process.
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mx 219 10/25/2012 5:04pm
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chrisbuehler wrote:
X2. Chisholm will struggle to even crack the top ten. That's not a put down, he just doesnt have that next level speed. Solid rider but...
X2. Chisholm will struggle to even crack the top ten. That's not a put down, he just doesnt have that next level speed. Solid rider but tier 2. The economy sucks and rides are few and far between. That's just the way it is, get over it
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It is stacked for sure: RV Stewart Dungey Reed Barcia Wilson Canard Weimer Millsaps Brayton Grant Short That's 12 riders already that i don't think Chiz...
It is stacked for sure:

RV
Stewart
Dungey
Reed
Barcia
Wilson
Canard
Weimer
Millsaps
Brayton
Grant
Short

That's 12 riders already that i don't think Chiz can beat on a regular basis and I've even forgotten Alessi, kdub, tickle, tedesco.

I can see the reasoning from RCH. Why pay Chiz a salary (which he deserves) to have him around the 12 spot. You can get Hill for almost free and hope he'll make the main then wait for a few guys to crash and bang he's top 15... If you follow that logic I would have got kiniry like Matthes says, less money than Chiz but more reliable than Hill.
This pretty much sums it up...Chiz will be battling for 10th on a good day. Field is stacked, even if a few guys get hurt it should still be really good this year.

Also, lets not forget Tomac, I believe he is slated to race a 450 outdoors in '13.

Also, you forgot Rattray and Metcalfe, and Hansen if he can get a decent ride. What about Stroupe?? Just think if we had Pourcel and J Law racing too!!

Gonna be a good year.
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normanmx 10/25/2012 5:42pm
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chrisbuehler wrote:
X2. Chisholm will struggle to even crack the top ten. That's not a put down, he just doesnt have that next level speed. Solid rider but...
X2. Chisholm will struggle to even crack the top ten. That's not a put down, he just doesnt have that next level speed. Solid rider but tier 2. The economy sucks and rides are few and far between. That's just the way it is, get over it
jo2910 wrote:
It is stacked for sure: RV Stewart Dungey Reed Barcia Wilson Canard Weimer Millsaps Brayton Grant Short That's 12 riders already that i don't think Chiz...
It is stacked for sure:

RV
Stewart
Dungey
Reed
Barcia
Wilson
Canard
Weimer
Millsaps
Brayton
Grant
Short

That's 12 riders already that i don't think Chiz can beat on a regular basis and I've even forgotten Alessi, kdub, tickle, tedesco.

I can see the reasoning from RCH. Why pay Chiz a salary (which he deserves) to have him around the 12 spot. You can get Hill for almost free and hope he'll make the main then wait for a few guys to crash and bang he's top 15... If you follow that logic I would have got kiniry like Matthes says, less money than Chiz but more reliable than Hill.
mx 219 wrote:
This pretty much sums it up...Chiz will be battling for 10th on a good day. Field is stacked, even if a few guys get hurt it...
This pretty much sums it up...Chiz will be battling for 10th on a good day. Field is stacked, even if a few guys get hurt it should still be really good this year.

Also, lets not forget Tomac, I believe he is slated to race a 450 outdoors in '13.

Also, you forgot Rattray and Metcalfe, and Hansen if he can get a decent ride. What about Stroupe?? Just think if we had Pourcel and J Law racing too!!

Gonna be a good year.
And you suppose Hill will fit in here someplace between??. C,Mon!!(hope he proves me wrong) Looks like a Good year indeed..and all live on SPEED...ahhhh...

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machine wrote:
RCH is rolling the dice with Hill, but it might pay off and don't have much to lose in the process.
they have been rolling the dice on hill for some time now...

HTF did he get re signed over Hanny, he at least put in solid rides in SX last year... not a fan even i was surprised at how consistent he was..

I like Hill but damn..
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petie11o5 wrote:
How the f*** does Kyle Chisolm not have a ride? This is a complete joke. He finished 8th overall in MX and 11th in SX. I...
How the f*** does Kyle Chisolm not have a ride? This is a complete joke. He finished 8th overall in MX and 11th in SX. I wish I had some cash and wasn't in college I would love to help him out. It must be politics as Hanny mentioned. Also, you know there is something wrong when a solid kid like Chiz is bitching about a team. Keep your head up bud.

Britney Chisholm ‏@BritneyChizzy
@KyleChisholm11 I just want you to know I'm proud to be your wife! Your dedicated & hard-working and HUMBLE. Not too cool to go racing with your dad as your mechanic on stock bikes with duct tape helmets. And that's kind of attitude will pay off. Promise. Love you with all my ❤!

Britney Chisholm ‏@BritneyChizzy
People who lead people on just to hurt them in the end are the worst kind of people

Kyle Chisholm ‏@KyleChisholm11
Well now I know how @jimmyalbertson felt when he tried out for the MotoConcepts Team a couple years ago! #BS #WasteMyTime
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Thats why he has no ride. Economy
x2

I feel for Kyle Chisolm but hes not the only one who is getting beat out for jobs...life is a zero sum game.
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Trauma 10/25/2012 9:09pm
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Oh yes of course, it's Barack Obamas fault that Hill was picked over Chizzy.

Why do you have to make it political?
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mag23 10/25/2012 9:12pm
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Trauma wrote:
Oh yes of course, it's Barack Obamas fault that Hill was picked over Chizzy.

Why do you have to make it political?
you're the only one bringing up politics... what's your problem?
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Trauma 10/25/2012 9:15pm
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Trauma wrote:
Oh yes of course, it's Barack Obamas fault that Hill was picked over Chizzy.

Why do you have to make it political?
mag23 wrote:
you're the only one bringing up politics... what's your problem?
Might want to read the post directly above mine let alone the entire thread, then try again.
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therealjonon 10/26/2012 8:40am
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I like both riders but I hope Hill shuts up a lot of Haters.
As for Chisholm, he should have no problem landing another ride. The reason he is so upset is that ride was factory based already. But, i do think if hes back on JWR and teammates with Dean Wilson, a lot will change this year as far as support goes. And, hopefully both riders on JWR get the same equal support unlike JGR did with Millsaps and Stewart as far as gas tank and special parts go....
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luvmx 10/29/2012 6:20pm
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petie11o5 wrote:
When there are guys who have finished way worse that have a ride it's a complete joke. Actually, you're wrong. When you finish 8th in SX...
When there are guys who have finished way worse that have a ride it's a complete joke.

Actually, you're wrong. When you finish 8th in SX and 11th in MX you DESERVE a ride.
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8th and 11th... With those kind of numbers and no ride; that makes our sport look like a complete joke! Makes me sick!! Anyone who says...
8th and 11th...

With those kind of numbers and no ride; that makes our sport look like a complete joke! Makes me sick!! Anyone who says otherwise is on crack!
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Exactly! Someone else gets it! As a fan of the sport I'm honestly pissed off and aggravated by this. I want to see the BEST guys...
Exactly! Someone else gets it! As a fan of the sport I'm honestly pissed off and aggravated by this. I want to see the BEST guys in our sport compete every weekend. What a freaking joke...
WOW Chiz you really should have known when to keep your mouth shut and when to tell wife to keep her stupid mouth shut! This isn't your first year out there, You know how it works. You don't dis a team that gave you a chance all over twitter! Any team will see that behavior and not want anything to do with you! Don't be a cry baby, suck it up and go on.
All of you that have said that Chiz deserved the ride-- ask yourself this question...in all the years that Chiz has been in the Pros, has he EVER been on the podium? Has he ever won either a SX or outdoor event? The answer is no! He is a 15 place rider at best, the only time he finishes better is at the end of the season when all the better riders are hurt! REALLY lets call a spade a spade, his best years are behind him. RC knows what he is doing. At least Hill has done something in his career
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WOW Chiz you really should have known when to keep your mouth shut and when to tell wife to keep her stupid mouth shut! This isn't...
WOW Chiz you really should have known when to keep your mouth shut and when to tell wife to keep her stupid mouth shut! This isn't your first year out there, You know how it works. You don't dis a team that gave you a chance all over twitter! Any team will see that behavior and not want anything to do with you! Don't be a cry baby, suck it up and go on.
All of you that have said that Chiz deserved the ride-- ask yourself this question...in all the years that Chiz has been in the Pros, has he EVER been on the podium? Has he ever won either a SX or outdoor event? The answer is no! He is a 15 place rider at best, the only time he finishes better is at the end of the season when all the better riders are hurt! REALLY lets call a spade a spade, his best years are behind him. RC knows what he is doing. At least Hill has done something in his career
I totally agree with you. As far as winning a event though, he did win bercy.
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Big 10/30/2012 1:55am
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I decided to like Chiz because he's showing true emotions after missing a tryout. Thats what athletes do. Much better than just same rubbish like the neutral podiumspeeches. Blablablabla? Anythin is better than that crap? A lot of people loved to hear Lawrence and he didn't sound like the sharpest knife too. But at least they are human and speak trough their harts sometimes.
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Big 10/30/2012 1:59am
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luvmx wrote:
WOW Chiz you really should have known when to keep your mouth shut and when to tell wife to keep her stupid mouth shut! This isn't...
WOW Chiz you really should have known when to keep your mouth shut and when to tell wife to keep her stupid mouth shut! This isn't your first year out there, You know how it works. You don't dis a team that gave you a chance all over twitter! Any team will see that behavior and not want anything to do with you! Don't be a cry baby, suck it up and go on.
All of you that have said that Chiz deserved the ride-- ask yourself this question...in all the years that Chiz has been in the Pros, has he EVER been on the podium? Has he ever won either a SX or outdoor event? The answer is no! He is a 15 place rider at best, the only time he finishes better is at the end of the season when all the better riders are hurt! REALLY lets call a spade a spade, his best years are behind him. RC knows what he is doing. At least Hill has done something in his career
So you meaning that Dungey is only winning because of RV and JS got injured.Whistling
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DH502 wrote:
WTH are the chizzy's freaking out about. He went to a try out and didn't make the cut! This is professional sports people. No one 'deserves'...
WTH are the chizzy's freaking out about. He went to a try out and didn't make the cut! This is professional sports people. No one 'deserves' anything
petie11o5 wrote:
When there are guys who have finished way worse that have a ride it's a complete joke. Actually, you're wrong. When you finish 8th in SX...
When there are guys who have finished way worse that have a ride it's a complete joke.

Actually, you're wrong. When you finish 8th in SX and 11th in MX you DESERVE a ride.
Ummmmmm, maybe the team just didn't feel like they could work as well with him as with the rider that they picked. In other professional sports they bring in players all the time and then decide to go in another directions for one reason or another. It doesn't mean that the player isn't good. There are guys that get cut from teams multiple times and then land somewhere and do really well.


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UpTiTe 10/30/2012 7:02am
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I hate when people say "he deserves a ride". If a guy deserves a ride he will get one, managers sometimes can see things Vitalers can't, sometimes.

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