Wilsons bike good enough.

10/29/2012 3:27am Edited Date/Time 10/29/2012 3:31am
steed 2.0 wrote:
Would be pretty epic to have a British AMA 450 Supercross Champion one day!

He better hurry up then, Scottish independence referendum 2014
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hahaha!! Yes, you are right.
give it to them I say - fucking drain on England's resources anyway regardless of the North sea oil - which they won't be keeping as much as they like to think it.

on topic - hell yeah Deano will be up there, man when you look at the list though it is gonna be one exciting year in the 450 class, there is going to upwards of 7 or 8 swapping positions each night in my opinion.

I cannot wait for A1 - please ESPN get this sorted for 2013 !
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Jamie. I think you need to research that a little more.

90% of the oil will stay and has the largest oil resource in the EU
Massive energy exporter
Whisky trade 1.6bn in revenue for the UK in taxes
Fishing
Responsible for 28-30% of all computer technologies for the whole of the EU.
Textiles and Manufacturing is also very high on the list of overall UK exports.

Now the banks will be mentioned however, the RBS etc were all under the control of the Bank of England and the national debt will be divided rightly so by the population. Even so, you are still looking at a surplus.

I for one don't want to see it. As it will force the rest of the UK into a deep recession. However I do agree that Scotland should have more control over its own population as it has been subsidising for years the other 3 nations within the UK.

UK subsidies
Any lingering doubt that Scotland more than pays its way, or survives on subsidies, was dispelled by a new report published in October 2007. Whilst the Daily Mail, which by no stretch of the imagination could be described as a supporter of Scottish nationalism, devoted a whole page to the analysis of the report which was based on tax paid per capita as against spending, Northern Ireland received £4,212 more than it paid in tax, North East England £3,133, Wales £2,990, N.W. England £1732, South West England £978, West Midlands £931, East Midlands £185 and lastly Scotland £38. Only the South East corner produced a small surplus due to tax paid on the high wages within the city of London at this time (pre-Credit Crunch).

Analysis

It is no longer refuted that Scotland exports more per capita than the rest of the UK. In 1968 when I first discovered that Scotland was in surplus in relation to the rest of the UK, its exports could be broken down into whisky, meat, timber, fish, and of course tourism which is a huge hidden income. Those exports are supported by a population of only 5,000,000 as against 45,000,000 for the rest of the UK, quite a substantial advantage.

With the oil boom, Scotland's economy was transformed. Scottish oil has to date funded the Treasury with £300 billion, which has pushed Scotland up from 7th place in World Wealth rankings, had it been in control of its own resources, to 3rd place.

On 29 May 2008, Labour Chancellor Alistair Darling admitted in a back-handed way, that Scotland's oil revenue had been underwriting the UK's failure to balance its books for decades. There is still 30 years of oil supply left in the North Sea (some 150 million barrels) valued at 2008 prices at 1 trillion dollars. This excludes the new fields being brought into production in deeper waters west of Shetland. Which are coming online now as we speak and have the potential to extend that another 30 years.

Meantime whisky exports, which I listed in 1968 as one of Scotland's top assets, have risen at a phenomenal rate. For example, whisky exports to China amounted to £1 million in 2000/2001, by 2007 they had risen to £70 million. They have continued to rise, although I don't have more recent statistics.

On the economies of Independence, Scotland has also 18 times its requirements in North Sea gas, which on current trading is more expensive than oil. The country exports 24% of its surplus electricity south of the Border, with much of the back-up by Hydro Electric unused.

Even if nuclear is excluded, the future looks bright, the new Glen Doe hydro station on Loch Ness which was opened by Scotland's First Minister last year can produce enough electricity for 240,000 homes. Further projects down the Loch which have now reached the planning stage will increase this to over 1,000,000 homes. Wind and wave energy will also contribute significantly in the future.



All of the above is never taken into account by the UK parliament as they fear Scottish Independence as it will be costly for all parties involved with Scotland having any kind of financially viable way back out of the hole.
10/29/2012 4:57am Edited Date/Time 10/29/2012 5:02am
well ripped.

work in the oil and gas/energy sector myself so we will see how it pans out regards resource and distribution - that's my take from the inside anyway. should prob leave politics out of it and possibly a knee jerk reaction on my part as the whole saga pisses me off royally but hey ho.
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I work in the same sector as well boss.

Politics isn't my thing either but if they follow EU law on boundaries etc then the UK as a whole is going to lose a lot of revenue.

I was reading on the plane the other day about the amount of tax taken vs the amount given back and it was 9.8% vs 9.4%. So a surplus of 0.4%. That does not include the revenue from Oil/Gas, energy, whisky, textiles, Computer related industry or manufacturing being given to the Scots so to speak. If they get all their revenues to themselves it puts them in the top 3 in the world for monies earned vs population. They do cost more in terms of state money but they do outperform everywhere in the uk bar London and the SE.

Those kind of numbers speak for themselves in my opinion. I hope it doesn't happen though.

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10/29/2012 7:34am Edited Date/Time 10/29/2012 7:36am
Dean's Canadian, I'm claiming him, whether he likes it or not.

My Dad was an Irish immigrant, and is buried here in Canada, that the way it roles. When Dean gets his US citizenship, he can be American.

It would never happen, but what if UK and Canada went to war. The UK sandbagged at the Olympics somewhat I would say, Scotland, Ireland, England should have three separate countries.

Anyway, I don't know how we got here from bikes. I'm sure the parts will be there for him, but will people like Mitch and Bones? Team is going to have growing pains. I think Dean will be 7th in SX next year, and a title threat outdoors. Bigger boy like him should do better on the starts on the big bikes, but the start is everything in SX, too much if you ask me. He had better be nailing them.

I compare him to Barcia, like others, but wrongly so right now. Barcia is better indoors, Deano is great under the sun.
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newmann wrote:
Better have full works suspension or he will die. Learned that here on Vital.....
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Tweaked stock.
Its only shims and washers.
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newmann wrote:
Better have full works suspension or he will die. Learned that here on Vital.....
Jakes Dad wrote:
Tweaked stock.
UpTiTe wrote:
Its only shims and washers.
Will never work, he'll die. If he is going to compete with Villo for podiums, everything has to be works. Even after Vollo wrapped up the c/ship and I suggested he ride a factory prepped "stock" bike and shoot for a win, top level Vitalers stated that he would die. Heard it here, so it has to be true..... LOL
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I don't get the 'hate' (not hate but i can't find the right english word for it) towards Wilson. The guy competed for the SX championship until he got injured and took an outdoor title. He's blazing fast and has the same speed (or had, need to see where he is after the injury) as his competition in the lights... My guess is the dude will battle for podiums all season long if he stays healthy.
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Katoom72 wrote:
I don't get the 'hate' (not hate but i can't find the right english word for it) towards Wilson. The guy competed for the SX championship...
I don't get the 'hate' (not hate but i can't find the right english word for it) towards Wilson. The guy competed for the SX championship until he got injured and took an outdoor title. He's blazing fast and has the same speed (or had, need to see where he is after the injury) as his competition in the lights... My guess is the dude will battle for podiums all season long if he stays healthy.
Wilson is hilarious. Remember the SX interview where he tried to make a muscle on his skinny little arms? Cracked me up. He hangs it out with the best and I hope to see him in the mix. Not afraid to go big.
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Lowlander wrote:
I work in the same sector as well boss. Politics isn't my thing either but if they follow EU law on boundaries etc then the UK...
I work in the same sector as well boss.

Politics isn't my thing either but if they follow EU law on boundaries etc then the UK as a whole is going to lose a lot of revenue.

I was reading on the plane the other day about the amount of tax taken vs the amount given back and it was 9.8% vs 9.4%. So a surplus of 0.4%. That does not include the revenue from Oil/Gas, energy, whisky, textiles, Computer related industry or manufacturing being given to the Scots so to speak. If they get all their revenues to themselves it puts them in the top 3 in the world for monies earned vs population. They do cost more in terms of state money but they do outperform everywhere in the uk bar London and the SE.

Those kind of numbers speak for themselves in my opinion. I hope it doesn't happen though.
The primary reason they want independance is the hatred that they have of England. We all know it.
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10/29/2012 11:01am
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JWR got factory support for next year, so i dont see it being a problem.
After a conversation I had at the MEC, it sounds like there may be a little less factory support than I've heard in the past.

Plenty of bikes? Yes.

Access to advice and tech support? Yes.

Wide-open access to parts and such? Maybe not so much.

I hear similar for the RCH squad. One factory bike for their top guy, one that's more production-based for their second guy, and not exactly wide-open access to the parts cage.
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Not so sure about that. Lived on both sides of the Border and haven't seen any hatred except during a football or rugby game (understandable). The majority of Scottish are well educated and are very street smart to know when they are being duped.

Personally I think they see where Westminster has headed being completely out of touch for the peoples needs and the future of getting involved in a lot that we shouldn't be. Our country like the US is financially on it's knees and priorities of fixing what's needed at home should be first and not chasing oil rich countries making up issues on weapons of mass destruction etc etc.

We all have a duty to help each other but there are a lot of countries that pose a bigger threat to humanity than Iraq/Afghanistan has or ever will and yet we don't stop them. Why? No natural resources that we need.
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ocscottie wrote:
JWR got factory support for next year, so i dont see it being a problem.
GuyB wrote:
After a conversation I had at the MEC, it sounds like there may be a little less factory support than I've heard in the past. Plenty...
After a conversation I had at the MEC, it sounds like there may be a little less factory support than I've heard in the past.

Plenty of bikes? Yes.

Access to advice and tech support? Yes.

Wide-open access to parts and such? Maybe not so much.

I hear similar for the RCH squad. One factory bike for their top guy, one that's more production-based for their second guy, and not exactly wide-open access to the parts cage.
So there is a good chance he could die? Can't let it happen, I like the kid. We need to start a paypal account for Dean promptly in an effort to raise enough money to buy him some works suspension from Europe. You can still get the good stuff over there, right?Smile
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10/29/2012 11:31am
I don't think Dean will be hurting for good suspension.
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10/29/2012 12:41pm Edited Date/Time 10/29/2012 12:41pm
Katoom72 wrote:
I don't get the 'hate' (not hate but i can't find the right english word for it) towards Wilson. The guy competed for the SX championship...
I don't get the 'hate' (not hate but i can't find the right english word for it) towards Wilson. The guy competed for the SX championship until he got injured and took an outdoor title. He's blazing fast and has the same speed (or had, need to see where he is after the injury) as his competition in the lights... My guess is the dude will battle for podiums all season long if he stays healthy.
I agree. If anything, the 450 should be right up Dean's alley, given his size.
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10/29/2012 1:06pm Edited Date/Time 10/29/2012 1:07pm
If Wilson was riding a factory kawasaki, he would have had enormous pressure to perform great. Now he can 'ease' in the 450 class without the super pressure from a factory team (like Barcia is having right now). He just has to finish the season (so no injuries), learn as much as he can and shine in some of these races. Then the 'factory gate' will open and next year he will be a force to recon with!

However if he get injured again this year, he might be trapped in the 'low-confidence-zone' and never get out of it (and only be a top 10 guy instead of a championship contendor guy)
10/29/2012 3:29pm
kloot - i don't think Dean is in the low confidence zone, he got wounded by some American youth who went 1 step too far. Confidence issues are far from the place he is likely to be/is in right now.
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Alex Salmond is a smug ass-hat. I say good luck to the Scots with the Euro if they do vote that way. Atleast we'll still have a half decent mxdn team Wink


I'm looking forward to seeing how Dean does on the JWR Kawi!
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10/29/2012 3:57pm
Hate to say it but I will be surprised if he can get in the top ten. Barring crashes from others I think he will be hanging around 8-10th. Have alot of fast guys that will all be there come A1, now outdoors I think he is a viable top 5 guy. SX however I think he will struggle a bit more.
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10/29/2012 4:11pm
GuyB wrote:
I don't think Dean will be hurting for good suspension.
2013 air forks? Massaged? Or will they toss them to the side for spring forks? Or some Bones specials?
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Just read a Dirtrider test, these guys aren't superhero pro's, but they know how to test ride. THE JWR bikes didn't give the magic feelings the factory bikes did to the testers. Leading Edge Kawasaki makes a super bike in Canada, but SX is very specialized. I think in SX the bike is more important than outdoors, the frigging mains are only 12-13 minutes!

I'm a KTM and JS7 fan, but I did make the big drive to TO this year, and Brayton's bike seemed magic, bet he will miss it.
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10/29/2012 8:02pm
He has a lanky build that should work good for the big bike........I predict he'll be super fast.......... The young guns are comin...........
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10/29/2012 8:09pm
Wilson's bike will be fine. Wilson will be lucky to crack the top 5. He's a great outdoor rider but he's not that strong at supercross.
Villo, Dungey, Reed, Barcia, Stewart, Canard, Weimer even. Stacked, barring injuries.
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GuyB wrote:
I don't think Dean will be hurting for good suspension.
newmann wrote:
2013 air forks? Massaged? Or will they toss them to the side for spring forks? Or some Bones specials?
Kyb guys and BLT are getting the air forks dialed in for them, Dean is quite happy so farCool

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