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TDeath21 9/27/2012 11:06pm
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TDeath21 wrote:
Yeah... 16 to 12. That's a little over 40% of those tracks in the US. Is that not close enough to "almost half" for you?
kongols wrote:
No it`s not close to half. 40% is closer to one third.
43%. 7% away from half and 10% away from a third.
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kongols 9/27/2012 11:09pm
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TDeath21 wrote:
Yeah... 16 to 12. That's a little over 40% of those tracks in the US. Is that not close enough to "almost half" for you?
kongols wrote:
No it`s not close to half. 40% is closer to one third.
TDeath21 wrote:
43%. 7% away from half and 10% away from a third.
3% is not a little over. 3% decides elections.
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TDeath21 9/27/2012 11:19pm
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kongols wrote:
No it`s not close to half. 40% is closer to one third.
TDeath21 wrote:
43%. 7% away from half and 10% away from a third.
kongols wrote:
3% is not a little over. 3% decides elections.
Maybe they should just go to each participating country once, then start the cycle over. That would make everyone happy and end all debate.
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kongols 9/27/2012 11:23pm
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Maybe they should just go to each participating country once, then start the cycle over. That would make everyone happy and end all debate.
Not all of them are able to afford it. It cost 1.2 million just for a license. I think that`s the reason non of USA tracks want`s to run them. Here in Latvia we got government to pay for that license to host 2014 MXDN, but with a capitalism system you have over there I doubt government would help out any of the tracks.

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TDeath21 9/27/2012 11:33pm
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Not all of them are able to afford it. It cost 1.2 million just for a license. I think that`s the reason non of USA tracks...
Not all of them are able to afford it. It cost 1.2 million just for a license. I think that`s the reason non of USA tracks want`s to run them. Here in Latvia we got government to pay for that license to host 2014 MXDN, but with a capitalism system you have over there I doubt government would help out any of the tracks.
You have a better government than we do. Lol.
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daveoevo 9/27/2012 11:47pm
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While I agree the USA should hold the mxdn, the race is'nt supported buy the fans over there. A quick look at attendance number's seem to be about 32,000 at Colorado compared to between 60,000 to 80,000 at the races held here in Eurolandsville.
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kongols 9/27/2012 11:58pm
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Not all of them are able to afford it. It cost 1.2 million just for a license. I think that`s the reason non of USA tracks...
Not all of them are able to afford it. It cost 1.2 million just for a license. I think that`s the reason non of USA tracks want`s to run them. Here in Latvia we got government to pay for that license to host 2014 MXDN, but with a capitalism system you have over there I doubt government would help out any of the tracks.
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You have a better government than we do. Lol.
What Kegums did they presented numbers to government of how many people would attend it , how many foreign people would come, how much they would spend, how much they would pay in taxes, how much that would add to economy of Latvia. They presented it as a long term investment.
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TFS 9/28/2012 12:06am
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Considering 95% of the people racing are not from the US, why on earth should they run it in the US every 3 years?
TDeath21 wrote:
The US is where half of the world's professional racers race at. The US is larger in size. France to Belgium is hardly anything, where as...
The US is where half of the world's professional racers race at.

The US is larger in size. France to Belgium is hardly anything, where as California to Maryland is much farther, even though it's technically still in the same country.

Almost half of the professional tracks of the GP and AMA series combined are in the US.

The US is the center of MX right now.

It's not fair for everyone except Europeans to have extensive travel every year.

There's a few good reasons for you.
The US market has MX nationals. The GPs and MXoN are run by different people and they are wasting their time with races in the US. They didn't make a pile at Budds MXoN and organizing here is a hassle due to jealous promoters that get in the way and try and hold them back because they don't own it, so they hate it.
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mccread 9/28/2012 1:47am
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Considering 95% of the people racing are not from the US, why on earth should they run it in the US every 3 years?
RealityZ wrote:
Because running it in France, Belgium, Germany is like running it in Mass, Michigan, California. I'm not saying every three years in US, just not three...
Because running it in France, Belgium, Germany is like running it in Mass, Michigan, California. I'm not saying every three years in US, just not three years in a row in Euro
France Belgium and Germany are three separate countries. The US is one country. States are not countries.
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Derpin' DJ 9/28/2012 2:15am
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Wheres it going in 2014? Was it Brazil or somewhere in south america?
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kongols 9/28/2012 2:20am
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Wheres it going in 2014? Was it Brazil or somewhere in south america?
Kegums. Latvia.
2015 is Brasil
2016 Maggiora, Italy.
TripleDigit 9/28/2012 2:25am
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Considering 95% of the people racing are not from the US, why on earth should they run it in the US every 3 years?
TDeath21 wrote:
The US is where half of the world's professional racers race at. The US is larger in size. France to Belgium is hardly anything, where as...
The US is where half of the world's professional racers race at.

The US is larger in size. France to Belgium is hardly anything, where as California to Maryland is much farther, even though it's technically still in the same country.

Almost half of the professional tracks of the GP and AMA series combined are in the US.

The US is the center of MX right now.

It's not fair for everyone except Europeans to have extensive travel every year.

There's a few good reasons for you.
Har! And the USA don't have any advantage over the little countries when it comes to the MXdN??

How about sharing the race equally between the countries that compete,that's pretty fair,oh wait that's how it is, apart from the Aussies/Kiwis get a rough deal

The US had 2 in the last decade,a Trans-Am series could go to each country in turn but not the MXdN

Same old story,wanting the cake and eating it all,the race is much bigger and much more of an attraction in Europe too
Finnish_Flash_62 9/28/2012 3:51am
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kongols wrote:
Kegums. Latvia.
2015 is Brasil
2016 Maggiora, Italy.
I was going to ask about where it will be after Kegums, thanks for the info Smile I went to my first and so far only mxon two years ago in Colorado and I'm definetly going again the next time it's going to be held somewhere in the US, definetly a great trip. I agree that the attendance isn't anywhere near what it has been at the other ones held in europe (based on what I have heard and seen on tv), but from my standpoint I'm not complaining since it made watching the racing a lot easier Cheerful
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line-up 9/28/2012 4:15am
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Considering 95% of the people racing are not from the US, why on earth should they run it in the US every 3 years?
TDeath21 wrote:
The US is where half of the world's professional racers race at. The US is larger in size. France to Belgium is hardly anything, where as...
The US is where half of the world's professional racers race at.

The US is larger in size. France to Belgium is hardly anything, where as California to Maryland is much farther, even though it's technically still in the same country.

Almost half of the professional tracks of the GP and AMA series combined are in the US.

The US is the center of MX right now.

It's not fair for everyone except Europeans to have extensive travel every year.

There's a few good reasons for you.
TFS wrote:
The US market has MX nationals. The GPs and MXoN are run by different people and they are wasting their time with races in the US...
The US market has MX nationals. The GPs and MXoN are run by different people and they are wasting their time with races in the US. They didn't make a pile at Budds MXoN and organizing here is a hassle due to jealous promoters that get in the way and try and hold them back because they don't own it, so they hate it.
Somebody said MX nationals track owners are not allowed to make deals to host GPs. Is that true?
Moens_Andy 9/28/2012 5:42am
9/28/2012 5:42am
@Kongols please keep in mind that the AMA riders already done the SX series of 17 rounds if i'm not mistaking + 12 outdoors on every single time a Decent track that is 29 races over a season

Where Luongo give's 16 GP's where there r half of them on shitty tracks and there is 1 or 2 tracks that can say its a real motocross track ST Jean D'Angely and Materley Basin , all the rest on the schedule r maid by machine that is not a real outdoors season in my opinion.

AMA Has the best Tracks HANDS DOWN the first european that disagrees with that is probably blinded by the Circus that Luongo puts up on every race .

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DonM 9/28/2012 6:19am
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Yes , but it has nothing to do with Motocross of NATIONS. USA is just one participant out of many. This is not GP`s vs AMA...
Yes , but it has nothing to do with Motocross of NATIONS. USA is just one participant out of many. This is not GP`s vs AMA race.
That's a shocker....in reading most of the posts in this forum lately you would think that it was!!! HaHaHa!!!!
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Won`t happen in this decade.
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KlootZak 9/28/2012 6:24am
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Wheres it going in 2014? Was it Brazil or somewhere in south america?
kongols wrote:
Kegums. Latvia.
2015 is Brasil
2016 Maggiora, Italy.
Hmm I thought Germany would also get a MXoN in Teutschental?
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DonM 9/28/2012 6:29am
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Wheres it going in 2014? Was it Brazil or somewhere in south america?
kongols wrote:
Kegums. Latvia.
2015 is Brasil
2016 Maggiora, Italy.
KlootZak wrote:
Hmm I thought Germany would also get a MXoN in Teutschental?
They did...2013
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kongols 9/28/2012 7:41am
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ayearinmx wrote:
looks like you guys got your wish...

Glen Helen in 2015 - http://vurbmoto.com/news/2015-mxon-back-usa/11194/
G-man wrote:
Glad the Powers at Be took my advise—THANK-YOU!

Can’t wait—this is going to be off the charts! Woohoo
Do you think there will be more people than in previous YS race there?
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kongols 9/28/2012 7:43am
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ayearinmx wrote:
looks like you guys got your wish...

Glen Helen in 2015 - http://vurbmoto.com/news/2015-mxon-back-usa/11194/
Overdrive wrote:
lol, What happened to Brasil? Kongols I think they cut you out of the loop on that one. Smile
Yeah, they better not fuck with us that way. People put in a lot effort to get that money to pay for a license.
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G-man 9/28/2012 7:52am
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ayearinmx wrote:
looks like you guys got your wish...

Glen Helen in 2015 - http://vurbmoto.com/news/2015-mxon-back-usa/11194/
G-man wrote:
Glad the Powers at Be took my advise—THANK-YOU!

Can’t wait—this is going to be off the charts! Woohoo
kongols wrote:
Do you think there will be more people than in previous YS race there?
Oh yes I'm sure it will be packed. Who knows maybe they might advertise it more than just on MXActions Website.

No advertising and no top Americans competing with nothing at stake = small turnout.

It was a recipe for disaster finanically. I went both years and luved it though!



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CamP 9/28/2012 8:57am
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kongols wrote:
Do you think there will be more people than in previous YS race there?
Yes, the crowd will resemble the one that gathered at Budds Creek for 2007 MXon.

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FastEddy 9/28/2012 9:02am
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ayearinmx wrote:
looks like you guys got your wish...

Glen Helen in 2015 - http://vurbmoto.com/news/2015-mxon-back-usa/11194/
G-man wrote:
Glad the Powers at Be took my advise—THANK-YOU!

Can’t wait—this is going to be off the charts! Woohoo
kongols wrote:
Do you think there will be more people than in previous YS race there?
Yeah,there should be.
Budds & Lakewood both had decent turnouts I believe.
GH should have quite a bit larger turnout then both of those, I would assume.
The reason the GP didn't have a good turnout was because there were hardly any top Americans racing it and most do not follow that series in a hardcore way like they follow the Nats or SX.
However,the MXoN will bring most of the hardcore guys out,plus many folks from other countries.
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ocscottie 9/28/2012 9:11am
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Eddy, chk yer email jackass! Woohoo

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