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5 or 6 off the top of my head that I can think of in just the last few years.
And if I count all the states in America then that number jumps up considerably. The rural southern states of America are poor as fuck. Florida is great but its poor areas look no different than any other 3rd world country in that region. Dont get me started on California. I love LA but Im not going to pretend that it's all Melrose Place.
Look, its not about how many youve been too. Its about how we mistakenly perceive our own countries superiority. I dont hate America or anything, Im simply not ignorant to the bullshit that goes on in our own backyard. And when Ive driven across our own country, the scenery looks no different than most comparable 3rd world places Ive been.
I dont expect you to particularly understand. Nobody is more high on themselves than the British. That's not meant as a insult to you, please dont take it personal. But when talking superiority complexes, your country takes the cake IMO.
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But go ahead and talk up the nice spots. Florida is about 1% West Palm beach and 99% poor-as-fuck.
Since when is a AK a prerequisite for traveling thru a 3rd world country? Way to sensationalize your point. Youre losing this debate in a landslide when that is the best you can come up with.
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I love cheesesteaks though. It's very difficult to find an authentic cheesesteak outside of Philly.
But it aint the weather that's got me miserable or anything like that hahaha. I havent been to PA in about a year. Im currently very happy where I live.
People get too defensive about shit. I actually really like Florida. I like the culture, I like the food, hillbilly swamp festivals, Southbeach, it's a great place to visit and I came quite close to moving there a couple times in my life. Im just not into the whole glass-house-stone-throwing bit. Despite my affection for Florida I know its not without its faults, just like any place.
Ive yet been to a country or state that I could honestly say has a legitimate privilege to talk down on the rest of the world. There are some tropical places in the Caribean that would probably give that argument a solid run for its money. And Switzerland seems like damn near a perfect country but I'd be a fool to ignore the fact that they're main industry is banking and its likely that the banking complex is a major cause for most of the worlds problems/wars/etc.
Show me a truly sovereign state with kick ass weather, great food, a self sufficient economy, and a healthy, happy, and non-violent citizenship and then those people can bitch and moan that they should have gotten the GP over Mexico and then you wont see me playing devils advocate.
Anyway, back to the thread. I agree with Booby. I couldn't believe they actually planned a race in Mexico. That place is a nightmare, and it seems to be getting worse no matter how much legal money we throw at it. We really should legalize drugs and take away those drug cartels powers.
Teams dont get any transport, so fuck them to.
YS and GL get a fucking HUGE check and literally lay out NO money except a supposed coverage package. And knowing the intraweb figures, they are making a fucking killing on that also because the viewer has to pay to see it! oh, the tv package... hmmm, I have 500 channels on DTV, cant seem to find a single thing about the GP's... in the worlds largest advertising market.
I feel some here are very accurate in drawing the parallel with a 3rd world country violence wise.
random acts of violence vs. tourists is higher in mexico. mexico also seem very popular for people who want to off someone. they take them on vacation there and then plead innocent when they come up missing or found dead.
does mexico have nice places to visit or live...sure, every country does...but you can't tell me mexico is better than brazil or canada (as example).
also, you can't even remotely compare to the holding a major motocross event in U.S. vs. Mexico...We have done it every weekend for 30 years without someone laying a dead body on the driveway as a message...
As for you comment on the planned race in Mexico. Im not surprised they had the event there. Im surprised they didnt have the place crawling with police like they do at the X-Games or they did at the recent F1 race in Bahrain. This thread is evidence enough that with enough police presence and positive PR spin, any place can be made to look safe to have a race and the masses will buy it hook line and sinker. If Youthstream is guilty of anything is that they did a horrible job at planning this event and handling its PR.
It's unfortunate yet understandable why so many within the law enforcement end up taking the bribes. You have almost certain death in one hand, or a heap load of cash and the safety of your family in the other.....
Anyway ive been to pretty much all those countries seedy areas and never had a problem, not once..
I live in bermuda, one of the nicest countries in the world .. when i was 15 i worked at a gas station and got a gun pulled to my head at 3 in the afternoon .. When i was 22 i got a gun pulled to my head in tampa florida leaving a restaurant ..
People here things on the news and internet and say.. no way im going there with those animals.. not even experiencing the country 1st hand.. get out and travel, bottom line shit happens everywhere, it just so happens from my personal experiences that america is justas if not more dangerous than any where
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We've had plenty of "desperate situations" here, they just dont get the same press.
Take the middle east for example, if you went by what the news told you then you'd think the entire middle east is nothing but snipers, constant car bombings, and Al Quida running around. I had a great talk about this subject the other day with an Israeli buddy of mine. Same thing with an Afgani friend of mine. They cant believe the way their countries are portrayed in the USA media. It's nothing like the way we are sold it is.
Jabroni there is no debate to win, your points are absurd.
In Mexico they simply can't deal with the situation as a country, they are gradually losing day by day. There is no one there that's untouchable. In truth they need outside help from the U.S.
btw....the Mexican flag is the new state flag in Texas. I believe California has adopted it as well, with Arizona soon to follow.
A U.S. anti-kidnapping expert was abducted by gunmen in northern Mexico last week, a sign of just how bold this nation's kidnapping gangs have become.
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I live in El Paso so I actually know how dangerous/horrible it is right now in Mexico. 1 out of 4 have left Juarez in the last 2 years...
Oh the irony....
In 2009 there was 1 murder per 20,000 U.S. inhabitants. When compared to Mexico’s current rate of 1 murder per 8,300 Mexican residents, an individual runs a greater risk of being violently murdered in Mexico than in the United States.
And there have been over 47,000 in the last 5 years as of Jan.
That's with 1/3 the population...Where are you getting your figures, exactly?
My sentiments seem to be in line with anyone else who has traveled extensively outside of their home country. Notice how all the other foreigners in this thread seem to have the same sentiments as me? Meanwhile, the people who get their news from the American TV and are afraid to leave their home state are absolutely scared as fuck of the rest of the world.
And why do you guys seem to gloss over the fact that the cartels are fighting over the right to supply OUR COUNTRY with drugs? I mean shit, name one war or conflict that is going on in the world and ask yourself how it doesnt lead back one way or another to the benefit of the American/British empire? It's really hard to condemn these other places when we are far from perfect or without some form of influence on the situation. But that is another topic all-together. My posts are about the fact that we got no right to bitch about how dangerous Guadalajara is when in fact we hold races in some equally dangerous areas.
Shit in our own backyard simply doesnt get reported because of where it happens and what race of people they are happening too. Unless youve spent time in the ghetto, you just arent going to understand. There are places in Baltimore and Oakland that are absolute war zones. Dont get me started on Detroit. There are guns shots going on EVERY SINGLE NIGHT by the old strip in Vegas. Our media simply chooses to ignore it but meanwhile we portray Mexico as fucking Beirute at its worst. This race wasnt held anywhere near the violent border towns you Texans despise so much so lets compare apples to apples.
Compare the murder rate of Oakland to that of Guadalajara and tell me what you come up with. I'd say to give me some figures on Vegas too but I doubt we'd find anything accurate as that city doesnt want its dirty secrets being reported accurately, bad for business. I personally witnessed the way Vegas can protect its business interests in the way it covered up the Pacman Jones situation. There are actual video tapes of Pacman when he and his associate shot up that strip club and left a man paralyzed. Nobody ever saw those tapes because it would have been bad for business to throw a client like Pacman under the bus. So I dont expect much of Vegas' violence to be reported accurately.
Say anything you want but you cannot change the FACT that within blocks of our SX races in Vegas, Los Angeles, and Oakland, there are places no less safe than the rest of the world (with exception to South Africa as that place is in its own league when it comes to danger). Our own races are sometimes in places you wouldnt dare walk at night and in some cases, broad daylight. Im telling you because Ive witnessed it, not because I get my info from our fucked up media. I'll keep beating this drum til the end, and that is that we have no business casting judgment on the fact that this race was held in Guadalajara Mexico.
I sent my kid to Camaroon for 6 weeks last summer, so I'm not on the list of being afraid to travel. That's 3rd world.
yes we have our fair share, but I haven't been hearing about 49 bodies piled up somewhere in Vegas, but we do get news about gunfire at all times of the day right across the border.
Good on you for pushing your kid to travel. It's single handidly the most effective, cheap, and rewarding education experience I can imagine. I never knew how important it was until I lucked into traveling myself.
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