Stewart Update from Matthes

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jwhitemx15 4/20/2012 4:34pm
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Has anyone checked out Vince Friese's twitter??? There was a link to his picture post on RacerX's main page, but it's gone now.

Go to his twitter page and he's got a pic of a #7 under the MotoConcepts tent.
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IceMan446 4/20/2012 4:35pm
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New bike with no seat time. And dint say he rode it all off season. That was SX not Moto. Huge difference.

Thats a perfect recipe for racing the nationals.

Doesnt suprise me that the Vital Pros know whats best for another person.

What should his rebound be set at fellas????
Ghost of Jabroni 4/20/2012 4:37pm
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Yeah, however he wants to spin it I guess. I've heard that about JGR & Suzuki but ever since they started they've talked about Toyota, and...
Yeah, however he wants to spin it I guess. I've heard that about JGR & Suzuki but ever since they started they've talked about Toyota, and Honda and Suzuki are in competition with Toyota so not so sure they would risk that relationship for him.
No spin. That's how I remember it happening as it was all going down.


Toyota wasnt going to get in the way of JGR signing with Suzuki. The problem was, Suzuki wouldnt commit as much money as Yamaha. I dont know, some of the facts of the story Ive got contradict themselves so I know I dont know exactly how it all went down. Ive heard a couple versions. But the one consistent tho is that Suzuki had their chance at both a great team in JGR and a great rider in Bubba and they didnt make it happen.
Stoop 4/20/2012 4:38pm
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meh, blue, yellow doesnt matter RV will drop the mic no matter what color

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ocscottie wrote:
Didnt all the Luuvvahs used say James could win on a moped? Laughing

i kid i kid!
He won twice this year, but nobody is going to beat RV for a championship unless he has some bad luck. JMO of coarse.
Lawrence929 4/20/2012 4:42pm
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meh, blue, yellow doesnt matter RV will drop the mic no matter what color
I see what you did there.
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Always drama with James and his teams. Makes him seem very hard to work with.

Your right though-he needs to be racing outdoors.
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Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
Im pretty sure that Bubba signed with JGR prior to JGR picking a brand. I could be wrong. But I remember Big James thinking they were...
Im pretty sure that Bubba signed with JGR prior to JGR picking a brand. I could be wrong. But I remember Big James thinking they were going to end up on Yellow.

But I agree with you, money talks. I dont blame JGR for staying with Yamaha. JGR is a business and needs to go with who pays the most. And considering they had the fastest guy, who has shown plenty of speed in the heats and practice, it wasnt a bad decision. That's why Im not hard on JGR. Fastest guy on worst bike, it was a worthy attempt.


Honda didnt suck for everyone. They just went a few years without a ELITE level guy. Now they got a guy who can win races and as a bonus, his style matches that bikes traits perfectly. Winning combo. Same with the new Kawi and RV.


Great points regarding the 100cc and no-linkage.
You are out of your mind if you believe he signed with JGR not knowing what brand of bike he would be riding.
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I am doing pretty well at my new job so I think I'll ask to go part time for more money...

Oh, and if I fuck up something, I will just blame it on my tools. Woohoo Tongue
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DrSweden wrote:
I'm just a vet B-rider, but Zook must be out of their minds if they think they can turn this wreck around by letting him having...
I'm just a vet B-rider, but Zook must be out of their minds if they think they can turn this wreck around by letting him having his way in skipping outdoors? Hasn't his last years strategy hit the same iceberg repeatably? I figure by now even the seagulls gets he needs seat time as in racing to improve or at least gain back some of that previous speed and confidence?

I hope zook force him out of his own misery...
I remember once an NFL player describing being on an NFL team, like being on a speeding train and everyone on there wanting to throw you off. I would think being a top mx racer as the same, but wanting to sit in the front seats.
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DrSweden wrote:
I'm just a vet B-rider, but Zook must be out of their minds if they think they can turn this wreck around by letting him having...
I'm just a vet B-rider, but Zook must be out of their minds if they think they can turn this wreck around by letting him having his way in skipping outdoors? Hasn't his last years strategy hit the same iceberg repeatably? I figure by now even the seagulls gets he needs seat time as in racing to improve or at least gain back some of that previous speed and confidence?

I hope zook force him out of his own misery...
Did you not read what he said? Suzuki is waiting on their 2013 budget to make an offer. As in next year. That doesn't mean he's allowed to skip outdoors.
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FroDiddy 4/20/2012 5:15pm
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What a waste of 7 months. He should have signed with Suzuki in the first place. Better late than never, I guess. He will lose me as a fan if he skips the outdoors again this season.
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tyler durden 4/20/2012 5:20pm
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This is how I feel right now since he isnt doing outdoors for the nth ear in a row

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wawazat 4/20/2012 5:23pm
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Another summer of James stroking the fans. At this point he just needs to go away. Release a pc press release and see ya at Anaheim one.
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IceMan446 4/20/2012 5:29pm
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wawazat wrote:
Another summer of James stroking the fans. At this point he just needs to go away. Release a pc press release and see ya at Anaheim...
Another summer of James stroking the fans. At this point he just needs to go away. Release a pc press release and see ya at Anaheim one.
How exactly is he stroking the fans?

And why should he do what others think is best for him?

Ride a bike with no recent seat time and risk further injury. And is he even completely healed up yet?

There are a lot of assumptions going on and the fact that people talk like they know what he should or shouldnt do is funny.

He is his own man. If you dont like it go root for some one else.
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OldYZRider1 4/20/2012 5:33pm
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Get out of the contract, get a KTM 250SX, put on a 300 kit or mod it, and get back to his roots is what he should do. His career really got screwed by the change to the four strokes. Time to rebuild and have fun, probably gain some new fans too.
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wawazat wrote:
Another summer of James stroking the fans. At this point he just needs to go away. Release a pc press release and see ya at Anaheim...
Another summer of James stroking the fans. At this point he just needs to go away. Release a pc press release and see ya at Anaheim one.
His mistake especially if he thinks he is NASCAR worthy. The way he treats his fans is deplorable. He would make a terrible NASCAR ambassador. I'm actually ashamed he did Coach Gibbs wrong. Sad.
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OldYZRider1 wrote:
Get out of the contract, get a KTM 250SX, put on a 300 kit or mod it, and get back to his roots is what he...
Get out of the contract, get a KTM 250SX, put on a 300 kit or mod it, and get back to his roots is what he should do. His career really got screwed by the change to the four strokes. Time to rebuild and have fun, probably gain some new fans too.
I hope you're joking.

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dboivin 4/20/2012 5:48pm
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if he's dropping JGR now....his best move is to ride Chads bike for rest of season and make a play for 2013 with a new contract somewhere.

as long as chad and james are not directly competing, he would be fine on 22. it would be a win/win for both of them..and chads bikes are IMO some if not the best bike out there besides RV's. It would probably be the BEST move to shut everyone up and take pressure off having to win. If he signs a deal with Suzuki, he will be expected to beat RV every weekend.
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Tand16 4/20/2012 5:48pm
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As much as every one keeps saying once Stewart gets off Yamaha he will instantly start winning again people have to understand that it is not only the bike it is in his head. Many people have stepped off Yamaha with their new design saying that it can't win but that is not the only thing. The backwards design has won 2 outdoor championships and a Supercross championship in Australia so it does work in a racing situation.

For Syewart to start winning again he has to sort his head out first. Everyone has stepped up their game and Stewarts head cannot understand why he can't win with ease so he pushes the limits more and this leads to his countless crashes. If he were to work out how to step up his game to match Reeds and Villopotos pace without riding over his head he may start winning again but until then i can only see crashes and excuses on why he can't win
CraCKerJacK 4/20/2012 5:59pm
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I really think Villopoto's speed has got into Stewarts head. If he feels he needs to change bikes to feel comfortable running that ridiculous pace, then more power to him. Stewart at his best never had corner speed like Villopoto does. That kid is back on the gas in a corner sooner than than I have ever seen ANYONE, and the aggression he rides with has not been matched since Stewart himself at 17.

Hopefully someone can step up, because a healthy, confident 'Poto is a danger to the 450 riders injury list.
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mx5471 4/20/2012 5:59pm
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James is done. He's just wants to pick up a contract for some more bucks. He can't run outdoors because he can't last that long. That's what blew his career. What better way to compete in supercross, than running motocross? All your competition is there. If your not, you lose. He already lost his fastest man on the planet title. When was the last time you heard that? I wouldn't be looking for anything great from him. I think he has reached his peak. He's got enough money to last him, can pick up a little more, older now and a little out of shape. Much harder for him also. No give me races. The new guys will be on his ass, or ahead of him. The scene has changed, and he has not been a part of it. Not good for him. He will race supercross again, but I don't see him winning a championship. In 2 years, every one will have forgotten about him. I like James. At Loretta's one year he was there walking with an AMA guy and my wife said , go ask him if he'll take a picture with me. I asked him, and he did. A couple weeks later, I showed it to my friend, and he said give it to me. He went to the Broome National, and gave it to James, and he signed it for us. He was very nice all the time. I don't dislike him at all, but this is just my opinion of what you all speculate about with him. Time will tell. I wish him good luck. He is a nice person. He fought his way up the first time, I hope he can do it again.
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The common notion is that racers get 10 years of pro racing before they're used up. Some get a little more, lots don't get that far, but that's a good rule of thumb. This is Stewart's 11th year, and since 2005 I think he's hit the ground harder and more often than anyone, so whatever races he rides from here on out, I'll be stoked to see him out there. The guy is a certified genius on a bike (no matter what you think of his lifestyle or whatever) and anyone who loves this sport should consider themselves lucky to see him ride; SX or MX or part seasons or whatever. It's a pure joy to watch that guy do what he does.
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Drfletcher 4/20/2012 6:11pm
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This whole Supercross season has stunk. Everyone is hurt -

I wouldn't pay any money to see the remainder of it.

And James results will be the same on the Suzuki as the Yamaha.
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OldYZRider1 wrote:
Get out of the contract, get a KTM 250SX, put on a 300 kit or mod it, and get back to his roots is what he...
Get out of the contract, get a KTM 250SX, put on a 300 kit or mod it, and get back to his roots is what he should do. His career really got screwed by the change to the four strokes. Time to rebuild and have fun, probably gain some new fans too.
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Stewart not riding the nationals would be a disaster. The can't win no matter what he does...but him not racing isn't helping him get faster. Come...
Stewart not riding the nationals would be a disaster.

The can't win no matter what he does...but him not racing isn't helping him get faster.

Come on Stewart, race the nationals on the yamaha (even if you don't win...just ride around in 3rd every round if you have to)...switch to Suzuki in the off season.

I'm not convinced its the bike...He's not meeting expecations (of the fans, and sponsors....but most importantly himself! He expects to win...and when he doesn't he doesn't like it) and is simply looking for a change, any change, to mix things up a bit (I'd prefer the "change" being he races the nationals).

If he switches to Suzuki and doesn't win, it will be a disaster for him...and I predict he'll be out of the sport in a couple of years. And Yamaha and JGR will get the last laugh.

If he switches to Suzuki and does win...then it'll be a disaster for yamaha as no top guys will want to ride their bike...and that will mean that JGR will have to switch brands if they want a condender. And if they don't want to/can't switch brands, then they'll kill their SX/MX team and go some place else (of course, they are from NASCAR, where a 10th is good...so maybe they'll be content with a solid and consistent top 10 guy?).

That's my take on the entire thing...and I know, I know...I'm a clueless nobody that doesn't know what I'm talking about and I'm probably wrong...blah blah blah
bingo!
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Drfletcher wrote:
This whole Supercross season has stunk. Everyone is hurt - I wouldn't pay any money to see the remainder of it. And James results will be...
This whole Supercross season has stunk. Everyone is hurt -

I wouldn't pay any money to see the remainder of it.

And James results will be the same on the Suzuki as the Yamaha.
So, I guess you won't be having a drink w/us in Vegas?

Oh, well...
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Hando 4/20/2012 7:22pm
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hope he gets on the zook and shuts all yall haterz up
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Denn700 4/20/2012 7:28pm
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Toyota owns part of yamaha. Anyone who thinks they were going to Suzuki is crazy.
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RacerX just posted their Racerhead #16, and Matthes had this to say: And there is something to the James Stewart-leaving-JGR thing: it’s real and there are...
RacerX just posted their Racerhead #16, and Matthes had this to say:

And there is something to the James Stewart-leaving-JGR thing: it’s real and there are talks behind the scenes. Whether he does or not, we should know real soon. If he goes anywhere, it will be factory Suzuki and it will be officially for the start of the 2013 supercross series, although my sources say that if he feels comfortable on the yellow bike, later on in June or July he could show up for some nationals. But I don’t think he’s racing motocross on a JGR Yamaha—he doesn’t have to by the terms of his contract, and with the way his year is going, I’m not looking to see him on the line at Hangtown on blue or yellow. Best-case scenario is later on in the summer, methinks.

Whether or not it’s true, the fact that James thinks the Yamaha is not the bike for him is in his head. And if you’ve ever dealt with riders, you know that the brain is often the strongest tool these guys have. Whether it’s true or not, James thinks the bike is part of the reason why he’s not having the same success as before and that’s an open or shut deal. What are you going to do? Convince him otherwise by typing out an online manifesto on why the Yamaha works for you in the local Vet B class?

So what’s the hold-up? Well, like a lot of things, it’s the dollars and cents of the deal. We know that James almost went yellow before the season but the deal just wasn’t good enough, and when Stewart rode the JGR Yamaha, he was convinced that the guys there could make a bike that worked for him. Sources also tell me that Suzuki is going to be able to find out its budget for 2013 this week and that it would take “a couple of days” for Stewart and his lawyers to get out of the JGR deal. I’m told the JGR guys, some of the nicest people in the pits, would be open to James getting out of his contract if he asked because we can all see it’s not working and they’re shelling out some serious money for not-so-serious results.

So let’s wait and see what happens. I know the fans and the industry are salivating with every rumor they hear but for right now, we’re all just waiting. These things aren’t easy to do—a lot of pieces have to come together, and in the end, if Suzuki can’t make it work for Stewart, it’s back to the drawing board for Stewart and JGR.
you know that the brain is often the strongest tool these guys have.


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