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PTECH 3/24/2012 8:39pm
3/24/2012 8:39pm
Sherwood wrote:
If your going to make the main and simply roll around you should be black flagged.
AUS_Twisted wrote:
Yeah most other motorsports that I know off would black flag you for being so far off the pace (like some riders are in the main...
Yeah most other motorsports that I know off would black flag you for being so far off the pace (like some riders are in the main like it's the parade lap), can make for some very dangerous situations.
Agreed. In F1 you cant even race if you can't qualify within 107% of the pole time.
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BR_HERO 3/24/2012 8:45pm
3/24/2012 8:45pm
cheers_22 wrote:
If I were Kawi i would ask Weimy for my money back.
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Loved his comments....
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Mannequinforce wrote:
Unprofessional?

He said something like: I can't believe people make the main event and then just roll around.
miss poly prissy pants.... seriously?

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Insider347 3/24/2012 9:03pm
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Being slower than the leaders is one thing but when you stop trying and start rolling jumps, not doing triples etc. then get the fuck off the track. It's not like they are at a local race and need to stay out for track time. When you stop racing, they need to black flag you and no points (unless crash or mechanical). Nothing like being a squid and rolling a jump and roostin down the backside when you're in the MAIN event.
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Zycki11 3/24/2012 9:22pm
3/24/2012 9:22pm
It's kind of a catch 22. The rider deserves to be In the main if he makes it. On the other hand the rider should race. After all that is what he is there to do. The AMA announced at St Louis that the riders in the main event will be trying to advance or be black flagged. Ironic that they have not acted on it. I do see a pattern of the Alessis not getting the hell out of the way. I watched San Diego again this morning and I couldn't believe Mike didn't move. To me that should be a penalty. You can still race but get the fuck out of the way.
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gt80rider 3/24/2012 9:23pm
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Sherwood wrote:
If your going to make the main and simply roll around you should be black flagged.
BR_HERO wrote:
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Totally agree
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AZ35 3/24/2012 9:41pm
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So if they crash and are at the back, they should continue to ride as fast as they can? Seems simple.

Then the leader comes around, and tries to lap the rider, but he is racing his ass off so maybe he blocks the leader or leading riders a little while trying to try his hardest to come back from the back of the pack. Rear view mirrors are not standard equipment.

Then because he was "racing" someone who was lapping him, every one on the message boards says he is a moron and should move over because he is not in the "race". He should just get out of the way and let the "racers" past.

Flip side is he crashes and is at the back. I am pretty sure that none of the guys who make the main are doing this as a hobby, so trying to make some money is pretty important. So do they just say fuck it I crashed and pull off the track, so they do not block the leaders (who usually lap into the top 10 or so in every race). Or do they race their ass off like the example above? Or dio they just keep circulating the track slowly (to try to stay out of the way) and maybe pick up a few positions from other riders who drop out and DNF?

Amazing how all the internet couch potatoes can figure out the right answer every time. Hindsight must be available only on the internet.
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Zycki11 3/24/2012 9:57pm
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AZ35 wrote:
So if they crash and are at the back, they should continue to ride as fast as they can? Seems simple. Then the leader comes around...
So if they crash and are at the back, they should continue to ride as fast as they can? Seems simple.

Then the leader comes around, and tries to lap the rider, but he is racing his ass off so maybe he blocks the leader or leading riders a little while trying to try his hardest to come back from the back of the pack. Rear view mirrors are not standard equipment.

Then because he was "racing" someone who was lapping him, every one on the message boards says he is a moron and should move over because he is not in the "race". He should just get out of the way and let the "racers" past.

Flip side is he crashes and is at the back. I am pretty sure that none of the guys who make the main are doing this as a hobby, so trying to make some money is pretty important. So do they just say fuck it I crashed and pull off the track, so they do not block the leaders (who usually lap into the top 10 or so in every race). Or do they race their ass off like the example above? Or dio they just keep circulating the track slowly (to try to stay out of the way) and maybe pick up a few positions from other riders who drop out and DNF?

Amazing how all the internet couch potatoes can figure out the right answer every time. Hindsight must be available only on the internet.
Like you just did? The riders who are in the back say 15-20th place generally are rolling around. If a rider is being lapped on lap 5 and is rolling around, they should be black flagged. Of course riders still riding hard will still get lapped and all they have to do is stay our of the main line when the blue flag is out. The obvious upside to this rule would be the riders charge hard throughout the entire main event. As for the money. The reason you see the guys rolling around is because they make x amount for making the main. It doesn't change much 3 positions up. #coutchtyper
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Ride154 3/24/2012 10:11pm
3/24/2012 10:11pm
20 riders, 20 laps.

Gate drops, 5 laps to sprint.

After lap 5, 16-20th place off, that's where they finished.

After each lap for the next 10, the person in last is eliminated, that's where they finish.

Last 5 laps there are 5 riders remaining with no lappers. Let them battle.


...had a few whiskeys tonight after that snoozer of a SX on the tv! Flame away!
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AZ35 3/24/2012 10:24pm
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AZ35 wrote:
So if they crash and are at the back, they should continue to ride as fast as they can? Seems simple. Then the leader comes around...
So if they crash and are at the back, they should continue to ride as fast as they can? Seems simple.

Then the leader comes around, and tries to lap the rider, but he is racing his ass off so maybe he blocks the leader or leading riders a little while trying to try his hardest to come back from the back of the pack. Rear view mirrors are not standard equipment.

Then because he was "racing" someone who was lapping him, every one on the message boards says he is a moron and should move over because he is not in the "race". He should just get out of the way and let the "racers" past.

Flip side is he crashes and is at the back. I am pretty sure that none of the guys who make the main are doing this as a hobby, so trying to make some money is pretty important. So do they just say fuck it I crashed and pull off the track, so they do not block the leaders (who usually lap into the top 10 or so in every race). Or do they race their ass off like the example above? Or dio they just keep circulating the track slowly (to try to stay out of the way) and maybe pick up a few positions from other riders who drop out and DNF?

Amazing how all the internet couch potatoes can figure out the right answer every time. Hindsight must be available only on the internet.
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Like you just did? The riders who are in the back say 15-20th place generally are rolling around. If a rider is being lapped on lap...
Like you just did? The riders who are in the back say 15-20th place generally are rolling around. If a rider is being lapped on lap 5 and is rolling around, they should be black flagged. Of course riders still riding hard will still get lapped and all they have to do is stay our of the main line when the blue flag is out. The obvious upside to this rule would be the riders charge hard throughout the entire main event. As for the money. The reason you see the guys rolling around is because they make x amount for making the main. It doesn't change much 3 positions up. #coutchtyper
Yeah, like I just did....

Exactly my point, there is no easy answer.

And yes all the "racers" have to do is just stay out the way? Really, I guess if it was that easy- then no one would ever have an issue with a lapped rider. Thank god you figured that one out. We should just pass out a memo for the next race and all is good.

And tell the last 5 guys that the money "does not change much for 3 positions up". I guess a few hundred bucks means nothing to you but it might to them. Again, hindsight and internet make a beautiful match.
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zippy895 3/24/2012 10:31pm
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Sherwood wrote:
If your going to make the main and simply roll around you should be black flagged.
BR_HERO wrote:
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
gt80rider wrote:
Totally agree
once apon a time, other riders probably said the same about weimer.
weimer has better stamina and he feels everyone who makes a main should have equal amount of stamina/
makes one wonder/
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dirtnapper 3/24/2012 10:31pm
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I liked his comments. Its true. Don't keep circling the track if your not racing, causing others to crash.

I think Weimer should get more credit than he does - he seems like a real good kid.
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kongols 3/24/2012 10:35pm
3/24/2012 10:35pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2012 10:36pm
I thought there was a warning from AMA about this, why didn`t they follow through with a threats?
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dak446 3/24/2012 10:43pm
3/24/2012 10:43pm
Weimer shouldn't even mention his sponsors if he's going to have that tone in his voice, really. He was pissed (justifiably or not is up to you guys to whine about) but when he was "listing" his sponsors in his and RV's typically boring fashion, his voice was extraordinarily unprofessional. He should separate his bitching and his thanking the people who helped get him to where he is. He's biting the hand that feeds him, and if he doesn't start producing at a "factory" level, it might be a sad day at the Weimer camp when contract renewal time comes around.
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seth505 3/24/2012 10:48pm
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I thought it was good for him to speak his mind. I actually was thinking while watching the mains "man there are lots of dudes in the background putt-ing around not jumping stuff.
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motokawi818 3/24/2012 11:09pm
3/24/2012 11:09pm
Mstock wrote:
Total truth. Total Pro. There is zero reason for 20 rider mains. Maybe 10 but 5 would be better. If your not capable to win the...
Total truth. Total Pro. There is zero reason for 20 rider mains. Maybe 10 but 5 would be better. If your not capable to win the race stay home. The injury situation would not be a problem if there was a minimum qualifying level. 101% rule or something. Shit is not working as is. Sorry but I'm not about providing employment/income opportunities like the USA expects. Motocross racing is win or die. If they don't like it they should race nascar and make millions for last place.
I sure hope that whole post is sarcastic because if not it is possibly the dumbest post I have ever read on here.
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ocscottie 3/24/2012 11:38pm
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kongols wrote:
I thought there was a warning from AMA about this, why didn`t they follow through with a threats?
Yep, and the warning came with a black flag.

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knowitalloveragainnovice 3/25/2012 1:43am
3/25/2012 1:43am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2012 1:44am
I think if you have only 2 podiums in the class, you ai't the guy we should be listening to about how it is up in therace.

Especially when you were not in the main event last week.

I just wish Jake didn't break his arm last year, I really felt he would have been the surprise of the season with speed and consistency.

Now I'm wondering where he fits in?

With speedy,stewie, rd out......he should be folllowing his practice partner around for 20 in the rounds.

And with trey and bam bam coming.....and maybe a crafty frenchman, a scotsman,......jake should not be worrying about lapped riders since on occasion he has been one.
Aussie_power_sports 3/25/2012 1:59am
3/25/2012 1:59am
Ride154 wrote:
20 riders, 20 laps. Gate drops, 5 laps to sprint. After lap 5, 16-20th place off, that's where they finished. After each lap for the next...
20 riders, 20 laps.

Gate drops, 5 laps to sprint.

After lap 5, 16-20th place off, that's where they finished.

After each lap for the next 10, the person in last is eliminated, that's where they finish.

Last 5 laps there are 5 riders remaining with no lappers. Let them battle.


...had a few whiskeys tonight after that snoozer of a SX on the tv! Flame away!
Aussie super x had this as one of its formats, it was pretty cool
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BR_HERO 3/25/2012 2:43am
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knowitalloveragainnovice wrote:
I think if you have only 2 podiums in the class, you ai't the guy we should be listening to about how it is up in...
I think if you have only 2 podiums in the class, you ai't the guy we should be listening to about how it is up in therace.

Especially when you were not in the main event last week.

I just wish Jake didn't break his arm last year, I really felt he would have been the surprise of the season with speed and consistency.

Now I'm wondering where he fits in?

With speedy,stewie, rd out......he should be folllowing his practice partner around for 20 in the rounds.

And with trey and bam bam coming.....and maybe a crafty frenchman, a scotsman,......jake should not be worrying about lapped riders since on occasion he has been one.
"I think if you have only 2 podiums in the class, you ai't the guy we should be listening to about how it is up in therace"

Really? The guy who makes podiums shouldn't have a say in what happens on the track huh? Well one thing's for sure and that's nobody should listen to you.

"Now I'm wondering where he fits in?"

It's his rookie season and he has made two podiums while RV CR JS and RD were all healthy.

"And with trey and bam bam coming.....and maybe a crafty frenchman, a scotsman,......jake should not be worrying about lapped riders since on occasion he has been one."

Yes he should, a mistake by lapper/roller's tonight affected Jakes safety and his results, he has every right to "worry".
dirtbikersa 3/25/2012 3:05am
3/25/2012 3:05am
i agree black flag the rollers. I would also be pretty pissed if i paid good money to watch a race and there are riders rolling around the track to collect a cheque. I would rather watch slower riders that are giving it 100%.
neverwasfastenuf 3/25/2012 3:20am
3/25/2012 3:20am
What if one of the guys in the points chase has a mechanical problem or injury but decides to gut it out and gain some points even if it means slowly circling and/or rolling the track to do so? Should they be black flagged? And who gets to make the decision to not allow them to get whatever points they can on that night? What if that black flag loss of points affects the championshipat the end of the year? What if it affected the bonus that they would receive at the end of the year for their final placing in the series?
TripleDigit 3/25/2012 3:24am
3/25/2012 3:24am
AZ35 wrote:
So if they crash and are at the back, they should continue to ride as fast as they can? Seems simple. Then the leader comes around...
So if they crash and are at the back, they should continue to ride as fast as they can? Seems simple.

Then the leader comes around, and tries to lap the rider, but he is racing his ass off so maybe he blocks the leader or leading riders a little while trying to try his hardest to come back from the back of the pack. Rear view mirrors are not standard equipment.

Then because he was "racing" someone who was lapping him, every one on the message boards says he is a moron and should move over because he is not in the "race". He should just get out of the way and let the "racers" past.

Flip side is he crashes and is at the back. I am pretty sure that none of the guys who make the main are doing this as a hobby, so trying to make some money is pretty important. So do they just say fuck it I crashed and pull off the track, so they do not block the leaders (who usually lap into the top 10 or so in every race). Or do they race their ass off like the example above? Or dio they just keep circulating the track slowly (to try to stay out of the way) and maybe pick up a few positions from other riders who drop out and DNF?

Amazing how all the internet couch potatoes can figure out the right answer every time. Hindsight must be available only on the internet.
Missing the point bigtime,its not about getting lapped that's the problem,its about how that lapper is circulating the track,as long ad he's going at a half decent pace its ok,if he's rolling around then the leaders close in very quickly and can't even see them until the last second,like if the lappers are not doing triples etc

As you mention about picking up a few positions,he's more likely to pick up more by going faster,thats logic

Also if Alessi crawls round the track "hollywood" style lots more guys lapped him compared to if he was going at speed? More guys lapping him=more chance of problems (he probably wouldn't have made as hash of that jump and endo'ed too)
Ghost of Jabroni 3/25/2012 3:32am
3/25/2012 3:32am
New rule. Get lapped....have to pull off the track. Yer done for the night.
neverwasfastenuf 3/25/2012 3:35am
3/25/2012 3:35am
Ghost of Jabroni wrote:
New rule. Get lapped....have to pull off the track. Yer done for the night.
Sounds easy, but with lap times under one minute if one of the top guys crashes and it takes more than a minute to get the bike started they can easily make up several positions if they get going again.
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blusmbl 3/25/2012 5:41am
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dak446 wrote:
Weimer shouldn't even mention his sponsors if he's going to have that tone in his voice, really. He was pissed (justifiably or not is up to...
Weimer shouldn't even mention his sponsors if he's going to have that tone in his voice, really. He was pissed (justifiably or not is up to you guys to whine about) but when he was "listing" his sponsors in his and RV's typically boring fashion, his voice was extraordinarily unprofessional. He should separate his bitching and his thanking the people who helped get him to where he is. He's biting the hand that feeds him, and if he doesn't start producing at a "factory" level, it might be a sad day at the Weimer camp when contract renewal time comes around.
Exactly. He had the complaining tone even when thanking everyone, man up and don't sound like you're whining when Kawasaki is paying you to ride a factory bike. I can understand why he was frustrated, but it seems almost every interview he is blaming something else. Gain knowledge from what happened, and get better next week. Don't complain that a lapper ruined your line or Dungey stuffed you in a corner.
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Mstock wrote:
Total truth. Total Pro. There is zero reason for 20 rider mains. Maybe 10 but 5 would be better. If your not capable to win the...
Total truth. Total Pro. There is zero reason for 20 rider mains. Maybe 10 but 5 would be better. If your not capable to win the race stay home. The injury situation would not be a problem if there was a minimum qualifying level. 101% rule or something. Shit is not working as is. Sorry but I'm not about providing employment/income opportunities like the USA expects. Motocross racing is win or die. If they don't like it they should race nascar and make millions for last place.
motokawi818 wrote:
I sure hope that whole post is sarcastic because if not it is possibly the dumbest post I have ever read on here.
This guy is not joking. He has said it before. Now I can't read his posts without laughing.
thephoenix 3/25/2012 7:00am
3/25/2012 7:00am
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i think when you get lapped, they should score you where you are, then black flag you
That's plain silly as well. So you are saying when RV/Reed/Bubba/etc. lap up into the top ten, that the guys in 7th-10th should be blackflagged?

It's not as simple as it would seem...where do you draw the line...top 5, top10?

I think the 100%+ rule would be better...what % is the hard part.
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nickm 3/25/2012 7:03am
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I'm a Wiemer fan, but like any other sport, he should focus on what he needs to do to get up front and stop worrying about everyone else. Everyone on the podium had to deal with the same riders on the track as he did...shit happens, deal with it and worry about getting on the podium.

Saying your piece is fine, but right now it just sounds like frustration (which is cool, everyone goes through that).

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