The CBS coverage suxed!

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1/22/2012 10:31am
T-Fish wrote:
Was it on TV at all?

Yes, so stop crying. Be happy it's being broadcast at all.
Sherwood wrote:
Your attitude is why they never make improvements. Don't tell them that they're doing it wrong just bend over and take it.
No, I see it as coverage I can suffer through. I know there will be many more rounds of live coverage by Speed, so I'm able to suck it up and be thankful they're covering it at all.



How many of you would rather CBS not broadcast it at all?
1/22/2012 10:33am
P wrote:
E-mails and phone calls will help. Bitching here might not do much, but it will add to the effort. I remember people complaining a few years...
E-mails and phone calls will help. Bitching here might not do much, but it will add to the effort. I remember people complaining a few years back about not getting the full coverage because of NASCAR or something like that and it never happened again. The fans do have a voice.


P
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1/22/2012 10:33am
It is not live coverage. We should not miss 3 laps while they go to commercial. They refuse to reorganize the production of the races that are not live.
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1/22/2012 10:36am
Collusion? Maybe CBS is a "taste" of what you can have if you subscribe to Speed?

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1/22/2012 10:40am
wait until CBS tells the owners of SX that they need to change the actual "Race" format to mimick the broadcast format, so they can show the "Whole" race.
It's obvious that CBS has a different "idea" of how SX should be broadcast, and I think it would be a shame if CBS changed the "Sport" just for TV. (read $$$$$)
It happens all the time.
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1/22/2012 10:40am
We already saw what might happen if "the market" tries to do anything. That's why AMA SX is still billed as and FIM World Championship.


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1/22/2012 10:42am
In a taped race they go to commercial at lap 9 and come back with 8 to go!!!???? I don't usually complain about any race coverage but what are they doing? Lessen the heat highlights, lessen the GoPro James heat footage, lessen the red arrow lap map if that's what it takes to fit the whole freaking 20 minute race in to an hour long telecast. Oh, and yeah, RV and Stewart are less than a second apart for 3 or more laps at the end and we get Brock Tickle rolling through a corner and Kyle Partridge stalling his bike. Why would they not show that battle AT ALL, even if from their own desire to have the most exciting product for the viewer? Makes you wonder how whoever is working in the director's chair ever got his job. Any moran could do a better job by accident.
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1/22/2012 10:47am
P wrote:
E-mails and phone calls will help. Bitching here might not do much, but it will add to the effort. I remember people complaining a few years...
E-mails and phone calls will help. Bitching here might not do much, but it will add to the effort. I remember people complaining a few years back about not getting the full coverage because of NASCAR or something like that and it never happened again. The fans do have a voice.


P
This is the truth. Negative feedback regarding why they are doing a horrible job could make a difference.
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1/22/2012 10:50am
Wow.....an entire half hour of coverage.......

What happened to Brayton??
1/22/2012 10:51am
mxking6 wrote:
Wow.....an entire half hour of coverage.......

What happened to Brayton??
did a sweet 180 degree spin in the whops in the LCQ, factory honda, not even in the main.
1/22/2012 11:02am
rcm406 wrote:
did not even show the last 5 laps of JS & RV battling.
Exactly !!! I was thinking the Exact same thing. Is Sucked..........................................
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1/22/2012 11:05am
SOmeone who has connections please tell speed that they need to have all the races live and if not all live the ones that can't be need to be aired next day on speed. FUCK CBS!!! They suck and have no idea how to broadcast a SX race... Here are some reasons.
only showed 1 heat race
Only highlighted 2nd heat race and LCQ
Missed a lot of good racing battles
Only showed podium speech from Reed (what about Dungey & Stewart)

P.S. CBS You suck and don't deserve the honor of broadcasting Supercross!!!
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1/22/2012 11:08am
I don't know either, but why not put it on Speed then? Are CBS and Speed affiliated? It HAS to be more expensive to put on CBS over Speed, no? Is it CBS' call to put it on CBS instead of Speed? Speed somehow is savvy enough to have no interruption mains when it is LIVE. If they are affiliated and it is the same crew (director's, camera men, etc) how or why does the actual quality of the production change? The Live telecast is supposed to be the hard one to pull off. SO much doesn't add up here. It is almost like whoever is in charge has some office politics type of agenda and wants the SX telecast to fail.
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1/22/2012 11:10am
Fuck, I WAS gonna find it online and watch it. I guess I'll go smash my nuts in a vice instead.
1/22/2012 11:13am
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hey, don't take a dig at Emig and Ralph, they are essentially in our corner.
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1/22/2012 11:21am
Get whoever runs the Canadian MX TV broadcast to do it. I like the Canadian enthusiasm and the race coverage throughout the pack. They do the best TV MX race shows I have viewed on TV.
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1/22/2012 11:26am
Guys,

I love ya all and always love the kudos you give our projects but I want to stick up for the Feld TV crew and perhaps peel back a little of the curtain on the magic because there are always TV coverage bashing threads and misinformation.

To set the records straight. This is the EXACT same production crew (Director, Producer, Editors, Graphics, Spotters, etc.) that is used for CBS, Speed, NBC, etc, (That's right the outdoor series too). Each week they have a difficult job to do balancing racing, features, and most importantly...sponsor commitments. That's right, most importantly. That TV time and those production crews don't come cheap (I know) and the sponsors could care less if the LCQ wasn't covered. Unhappy sponsors and you don't get 10 LIVE races and dozens of hours of original programming and repeats on three different networks for 2013. Remember when....

I was there last night and watched today just to see what I missed. I was pleasantly surprised to see the first heat race covered completely at the the top of the show. Almost thought the 2nd was going to be covered complete too the way I felt the timing of the show was going, but wasn't disappointed either.

And if you go back and watch the race up until JS7 fell they caught all the key moments in the race. And after that, CR22 and RD5 pulled away and were riding good but just riding around...The only story left was RV's amazing run through the pack and they did a good job going back and showing his key passes. The last 5 laps there was no "battle" between RV and JS. RV never got close enough to "battle". Maybe there was some strategy on RV's part to wait and "battle" on the last lap to avoid any retaliation on JS' part but he waited too long or James was going too fast still or something but it didn't happen.

So what to do with 4-5 laps that were "just there". How about catch up some other stories of the race, maybe give a little airtime (aka LOVE) to other teams and riders? Remember, there are some new teams (equals SPONSORS) in the sport so show something on Shorty, Grant, etc. Would I have liked to see an interview with James or Ryan after...sure, but I thought Chad's interview was great, humble, and concerned about Trey and Ryan, etc. Replace the nice KTM First WIn feature for a couple of interviews? No way, that was really interesting and good for the sport and KTM...Remember, KTM is NOT a sponsor of the series like Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki.

From my semi-professional point of view I think the crew did a fine job as the night unfolded balancing all on their plates. I know next time I see them I will thank them for giving us all the opportunity to be critical Smile Perhaps you guys might join me because I know they don't hear it enough...or at all.

Go San Francisco!
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1/22/2012 11:26am
TV is so XX century...
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1/22/2012 11:29am
someone please post a youtube or torrent
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1/22/2012 11:33am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2012 11:33am
as a spectator, the coverage was just enough, as a fan .......well:Angry
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1/22/2012 12:25pm
CBS coverage isn't made for us core fans, we repeat the same shit over and over again every season. i'm wondering if we are not starting to see the dangerous effect of home fugging schooling.
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1/22/2012 12:32pm
MX-Files wrote:
Guys, I love ya all and always love the kudos you give our projects but I want to stick up for the Feld TV crew and...
Guys,

I love ya all and always love the kudos you give our projects but I want to stick up for the Feld TV crew and perhaps peel back a little of the curtain on the magic because there are always TV coverage bashing threads and misinformation.

To set the records straight. This is the EXACT same production crew (Director, Producer, Editors, Graphics, Spotters, etc.) that is used for CBS, Speed, NBC, etc, (That's right the outdoor series too). Each week they have a difficult job to do balancing racing, features, and most importantly...sponsor commitments. That's right, most importantly. That TV time and those production crews don't come cheap (I know) and the sponsors could care less if the LCQ wasn't covered. Unhappy sponsors and you don't get 10 LIVE races and dozens of hours of original programming and repeats on three different networks for 2013. Remember when....

I was there last night and watched today just to see what I missed. I was pleasantly surprised to see the first heat race covered completely at the the top of the show. Almost thought the 2nd was going to be covered complete too the way I felt the timing of the show was going, but wasn't disappointed either.

And if you go back and watch the race up until JS7 fell they caught all the key moments in the race. And after that, CR22 and RD5 pulled away and were riding good but just riding around...The only story left was RV's amazing run through the pack and they did a good job going back and showing his key passes. The last 5 laps there was no "battle" between RV and JS. RV never got close enough to "battle". Maybe there was some strategy on RV's part to wait and "battle" on the last lap to avoid any retaliation on JS' part but he waited too long or James was going too fast still or something but it didn't happen.

So what to do with 4-5 laps that were "just there". How about catch up some other stories of the race, maybe give a little airtime (aka LOVE) to other teams and riders? Remember, there are some new teams (equals SPONSORS) in the sport so show something on Shorty, Grant, etc. Would I have liked to see an interview with James or Ryan after...sure, but I thought Chad's interview was great, humble, and concerned about Trey and Ryan, etc. Replace the nice KTM First WIn feature for a couple of interviews? No way, that was really interesting and good for the sport and KTM...Remember, KTM is NOT a sponsor of the series like Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki.

From my semi-professional point of view I think the crew did a fine job as the night unfolded balancing all on their plates. I know next time I see them I will thank them for giving us all the opportunity to be critical Smile Perhaps you guys might join me because I know they don't hear it enough...or at all.

Go San Francisco!
Thanks for posting that. I thought it was the same production company...

I was there, too, but I avoided watching the "coverage" this morning... and it sounds like I didn't miss anything except as few replays.

I understand your point of showing some "love" to the other teams during the final laps, but seeing how Monster is series sponsor and their number one rider was chasing down a possible podium after starting last AND it was James Stewart he was chasing, if I were directing I would have shown that to the fans instead of showing riders farther back in the pack.

On your penultimate point, are you saying that they don't hear enough gratitude for doing what they do?
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1/22/2012 12:43pm Edited Date/Time 1/22/2012 12:44pm
CBS wants it produced for the non moto viewer.

This is a fringe sport, everyone that uses Moto and NASCR comparisons are dreaming.
This is what it will become, TV wise, if it really blows up.
Base moto fans are a tiny, tiny audience.

Non moto fan wants to see the mechanic writing on a pit board as you hear the crowd roar for....who knows, camera is on the drama of the mech. writing in repose on his pit board.

Sorry, for all the DC comments of 'wow, moto on NBC or CBS, how cool is that?'
Not very cool Bro, lets keep our Speed coverage, please.
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1/22/2012 12:52pm
motoplook wrote:
CBS coverage isn't made for us core fans, we repeat the same shit over and over again every season. i'm wondering if we are not starting...
CBS coverage isn't made for us core fans, we repeat the same shit over and over again every season. i'm wondering if we are not starting to see the dangerous effect of home fugging schooling.
No, but judging by your spelling public school sucks as well.
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1/22/2012 12:52pm
Pdub,

"On your penultimate point, are you saying that they don't hear enough gratitude for doing what they do?"

Let's just say that over the years it seems the percentage of "haters" threads on the TV coverage is disproportionately greater than "thankers" threads for even giving us what they do.

Might just be me because I'm sensitive to it. (I've been known to tear up during chick flicks and "Field of Dreams".)

Smile
1/22/2012 12:57pm
"These guys don't get paid enough!"

"We need more outside sponsors brought in!"









"Why did they show the guys in the back just riding around?!"
1/22/2012 1:32pm
MX-Files wrote:
Guys, I love ya all and always love the kudos you give our projects but I want to stick up for the Feld TV crew and...
Guys,

I love ya all and always love the kudos you give our projects but I want to stick up for the Feld TV crew and perhaps peel back a little of the curtain on the magic because there are always TV coverage bashing threads and misinformation.

To set the records straight. This is the EXACT same production crew (Director, Producer, Editors, Graphics, Spotters, etc.) that is used for CBS, Speed, NBC, etc, (That's right the outdoor series too). Each week they have a difficult job to do balancing racing, features, and most importantly...sponsor commitments. That's right, most importantly. That TV time and those production crews don't come cheap (I know) and the sponsors could care less if the LCQ wasn't covered. Unhappy sponsors and you don't get 10 LIVE races and dozens of hours of original programming and repeats on three different networks for 2013. Remember when....

I was there last night and watched today just to see what I missed. I was pleasantly surprised to see the first heat race covered completely at the the top of the show. Almost thought the 2nd was going to be covered complete too the way I felt the timing of the show was going, but wasn't disappointed either.

And if you go back and watch the race up until JS7 fell they caught all the key moments in the race. And after that, CR22 and RD5 pulled away and were riding good but just riding around...The only story left was RV's amazing run through the pack and they did a good job going back and showing his key passes. The last 5 laps there was no "battle" between RV and JS. RV never got close enough to "battle". Maybe there was some strategy on RV's part to wait and "battle" on the last lap to avoid any retaliation on JS' part but he waited too long or James was going too fast still or something but it didn't happen.

So what to do with 4-5 laps that were "just there". How about catch up some other stories of the race, maybe give a little airtime (aka LOVE) to other teams and riders? Remember, there are some new teams (equals SPONSORS) in the sport so show something on Shorty, Grant, etc. Would I have liked to see an interview with James or Ryan after...sure, but I thought Chad's interview was great, humble, and concerned about Trey and Ryan, etc. Replace the nice KTM First WIn feature for a couple of interviews? No way, that was really interesting and good for the sport and KTM...Remember, KTM is NOT a sponsor of the series like Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki.

From my semi-professional point of view I think the crew did a fine job as the night unfolded balancing all on their plates. I know next time I see them I will thank them for giving us all the opportunity to be critical Smile Perhaps you guys might join me because I know they don't hear it enough...or at all.

Go San Francisco!
Thanks for posting this - I still think with technology today they could provide a more compelling show. The sponsors MUST get their exposure - that is a MUST. They could go split screen with the racing and the features. Showing Grant roll through a section to talk about JWR does not do much for their their sponsors. They could go split screen and show the different battles. Even if RV was not close enough to battle or make a pass, it would have been nice to see it, along with other battles going on deeper in the race.

With the heat races, they could show most of both of them and not all of one and a few highlights of the second. The LCQ should just be quick highlights.

But the one thing I do not understand is it is they have all the stories of the racing but dont get it in the show. It is a taped show and they should be able to get the majority of the start, the battles, the finishes and post race interviews.
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1/22/2012 1:37pm
The features are worthless, If I care what kind of shampoo RV uses or whatever I can find it on the net, I don’t want them to have features for a good half of the entire broadcast time. Don't understand the point of these features?
If they have the camera on the wrong guy may be bad but start with the most easy quick fix, get rid of the features!!! (What´s my ” features” count? :p)

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