2012 TM 125

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WORCSRacer 12/27/2011 10:13pm
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newmann wrote:
Big picture, how long does the US turn a blind eye to the resurgence of the 125?
WORCSRacer wrote:
ssssshhhhhhhh.... We don't want to upset the Japanese OEM's they might just take their teams and go home. Do you find it ironic that only the...
ssssshhhhhhhh.... We don't want to upset the Japanese OEM's they might just take their teams and go home. Do you find it ironic that only the companies who actually count on motorcycles for their existence still make two strokes...
Sherwood wrote:
And has yet to win a Sx/mx championship in America...
Really? I guess Yamaha doesn't count?

Anyhoo.... Can you do me a solid and explain to me how the hell a companies success in SX and MX has any significance on sales? I'll make it easier for you, do you buy your bikes because they have won a championship in SX?
The Fast Guy 12/28/2011 4:19am
12/28/2011 4:19am
WORCSRacer wrote:
ssssshhhhhhhh.... We don't want to upset the Japanese OEM's they might just take their teams and go home. Do you find it ironic that only the...
ssssshhhhhhhh.... We don't want to upset the Japanese OEM's they might just take their teams and go home. Do you find it ironic that only the companies who actually count on motorcycles for their existence still make two strokes...
Sherwood wrote:
And has yet to win a Sx/mx championship in America...
WORCSRacer wrote:
Really? I guess Yamaha doesn't count? Anyhoo.... Can you do me a solid and explain to me how the hell a companies success in SX and...
Really? I guess Yamaha doesn't count?

Anyhoo.... Can you do me a solid and explain to me how the hell a companies success in SX and MX has any significance on sales? I'll make it easier for you, do you buy your bikes because they have won a championship in SX?
I personally don't care what brand wins what (obviously). I have spent a majority of my riding career on Kawasakis with only a few years on on others. I got this new TM because I wanted a new 2T that wasn't a Yamaha or KTM. Also because of my job in the industry I wanted to buy a a new bike that wouldn't piss any of my dealers off because I didn't buy it from them. I would have gone the Husky route (I know people at Husky and rode for them years back) if I could not have got the TM. I still have my KX250AF and will probably always have a Kawi dirt bike in may garage, but I gotta say I like what TM is doing! Oh and as for parts, so far it has been a non issue. Everything I have ordered has been in stock. Go here for pics: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fast-Guy-Enterprises/140539694672?ref=ts
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tbanks 12/28/2011 5:01am
12/28/2011 5:01am
Bike looks sick IMO. Wish I had one.....
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Denn700 12/28/2011 6:45am
12/28/2011 6:45am
Im debating right now on a Ktm 350, a 12 kx450 or the tm300 or I could make my ktm 250 a 300.

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Denn700 12/28/2011 7:06am
12/28/2011 7:06am
Or a service Honda kx500af
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newmann 12/28/2011 7:08am
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Denn700 wrote:
Im debating right now on a Ktm 350, a 12 kx450 or the tm300 or I could make my ktm 250 a 300.
Your KTM250 is new isn't it? I'd go with the 300 kit and report back with a review of it.Wink
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mauidex 12/28/2011 7:17am
12/28/2011 7:17am
WOW!!!!! TM is finally breaking into the US market.............2 pages and over 1800 views on the Vital forum............homologation can't be too far away!!!!!
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Denn700 12/28/2011 7:24am
12/28/2011 7:24am
I am going to do the 300 kit when I have to put a piston in it. I still want the TM though. Smile I'm writing an article for twostrokemotocross.com when I finish doing my pipe test for the bike. I will also write one for the 300 kit and post it here.
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malachi177 12/28/2011 9:24am
12/28/2011 9:24am
There's a TM dealer 20 minutes from my house. Parts are available no problem. On a side note...there's also a new TM race team going to be racing the Canadian Nationals this summer. Should be interesting to see how the sky blue team does.
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Denn700 12/28/2011 11:13am
12/28/2011 11:13am
Holy shit!!!! I got the go ahead from the wife to order one if I get her a interior decorator!!!!
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WillyB 12/28/2011 11:31am
12/28/2011 11:31am
Denn700 wrote:
Holy shit!!!! I got the go ahead from the wife to order one if I get her a interior decorator!!!!
WINNING!!
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bvm111 12/28/2011 1:00pm
12/28/2011 1:00pm
It’s not 1985 where you are dependent on a dealer to order parts, in this day and age of the interweb why would parts availability or dealer support be a decision point in purchasing a new 2 stroke? Even back in 1985 I never went to a dealer to have my bike worked on and the only support they provided me was 10% off parts and I am sure you can beat that on the internet every day of the week!

I say buy the damn thing and have a blast with it… not to mention you will have a bike that less than 5% of the country has ever even seen in person!
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mxtech1 12/28/2011 1:01pm
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Charles Bronson wrote:
you are joking right? its the same engine. and the ktm is and has been a 144. when they up the model years on the ktm...
you are joking right? its the same engine. and the ktm is and has been a 144. when they up the model years on the ktm, they have a habit of upping the displacement number without upping the actual displacement. i.e. their 510/520/525

the tm uses the same motor.
mxrose3 wrote:
Where are you getting your info from? The TM motor is built in-house. It doesn't even look the same. And I'm pretty sure they use a...
Where are you getting your info from? The TM motor is built in-house. It doesn't even look the same. And I'm pretty sure they use a different bore and stroke on the KTM 144.

I wish all the bikes had an internal thread cut into the end of the shifting-shaft to use an 8mm bolt to hold the shifter on. Such a better idea than a pinch shifter with the bolt that points down and usually right into the frame rail.
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KGAspeed 12/28/2011 1:11pm
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Charles Bronson wrote:
US dealer support? thats all they need to blow up over here. have to convince people you can get parts, since everyone seems to "plan" on...
US dealer support? thats all they need to blow up over here. have to convince people you can get parts, since everyone seems to "plan" on breaking shit.
TM has always manufactured their own engines from start to finish.

I've ridden a 125. Light-switch motor; very hard to ride compared to Yamaha or KTM.
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zJerky 12/28/2011 1:17pm
12/28/2011 1:17pm
my first car

can get you and 2 other friends to the track with ease.... even go 70 up the cajon.....
you need the 2 friends because its hard to spend money on a 8mpg truck, lol
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Motodude 12/28/2011 4:35pm
12/28/2011 4:35pm
bring back the 2 stroke!
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Flatliner 12/28/2011 6:26pm
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malachi177 wrote:
There's a TM dealer 20 minutes from my house. Parts are available no problem. On a side note...there's also a new TM race team going to...
There's a TM dealer 20 minutes from my house. Parts are available no problem. On a side note...there's also a new TM race team going to be racing the Canadian Nationals this summer. Should be interesting to see how the sky blue team does.
Too bad its only half the country.
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HuskyEd 12/28/2011 7:47pm
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malachi177 wrote:
There's a TM dealer 20 minutes from my house. Parts are available no problem. On a side note...there's also a new TM race team going to...
There's a TM dealer 20 minutes from my house. Parts are available no problem. On a side note...there's also a new TM race team going to be racing the Canadian Nationals this summer. Should be interesting to see how the sky blue team does.
From the TM Racing web site:

We have plans for a new TM racing team for the 2012 Canadian Motocross season that will be announced soon and we will be attending several Canadian Nationals as well as competing in the Quebec Provincials. The new team will make its debut at the Toronto Supercross and will also attend a couple US Motocross Nationals.

http://tmracingmotorcycles.com/

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mauidex 12/29/2011 12:00am
12/29/2011 12:00am
well they are welcome to "attend" a few US nationals but unless the rules get changed or they bring in enuf scooters to meet homologation they won't be lining up at the gate................

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