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I would love to see our sport gain the notoriety it had before. And lets get it straight, moto is and never will be mainstream, but dirt biking was and hopefully will be again. MXA talked about how they hoisted their own petard with the development of the fourstroke and the rule changes. I don't think that people are addressing the damage of the Japanese manufacturers refinement of the product. Many people on this site are core moto and demand progression, but that is partially what has destroyed this sport. The old adage applies: you can make it fast, reliable, or cheap. Look at what the tracks are like now and what level of ability it takes for both bike and rider. No wonder MOTO IS DODO.
The new bikes we have are amazing, but the additional cost for the progression and refinement of the Japanese manufactures has led to race bike quality and capacity and COST. It was mentioned in another thread that are cheaper. the only way that we can do that is to reduce one of aforementioned three areas. I know what my solution to saving our sport is and that is more riding areas and that will only come with increased DEMAND. But how are we going to increase demand? We need to bring back the low cost XRs and keep maintenance cheap for off road and race models so we can get back to 1 in 200 people owning an offroad motorcycle.
Schoolboy is a great class, but that's a pretty small demographic and obviously not enough to keep all of the manufacturers interested in developing bikes just for it. If your local tracks are big enough to have a dedicated 125 class, that's great news to hear and more power to them! But Schoolboy seems like the only real place for them in AMA events or LL, and that's what I mean by an amateur structure to promote them. I think this is also happening at such a bad time in the economy that there isn't much hope of them resurging without the rule book changing.
So the question is, do I want as a spectator to see some second teir guys or the fastest girls in the county? I also think it's a nice balance to the program to no only have Monster and Rockstar girls, but to have some girl racers out there kicking ass too. As DC said, it's a bonus event after all. By growing the sport, I don't think we're talking about just how many people start riding or racing. There's TV viewership, ad revenue, clothing and accessory sales, and of course media coverage.
Ok, I'm done, I think all of our opinions are pretty set.
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duplicated in sports promotion. Well done.
I’m going to speak to the CONCEPT of women in Pro MX. I don’t like it. Cheapening the life's work of some of the World’s top athletes by elevating a group of inferior competitors is wrong.
Qualify for the premier classes or stay out on National day.
As much as I admire the skill and determination of this generation of mx warriors, I despise your politically correct need to put your women in battle.
Here’s a podium for ya....
RIGHT ANSWERS for him, you - or American Motocross, is left to be decided by the individuals and the sport itself.,
Since it has only been me and my esteemed (yet lowly paid) staff at THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED
MOTOCROSS STUDIES that has come up with a genuine, sincere and well- thought -out PLAN for our sport, I consider
my bad self a visionary and, a progressive thinker. To be fair, a progressive thinker that still listens to The Zeppelin
and The Stones. I do have an agenda though, for sure.
Your atttitude towards how people feel about the Women... it comes across as if we dont like it then go eat a hot dog...LAME!
I think its pretty obvious what the majority of the fans want but dosnt seem like you slightly care. How about we do a pole in Racer X? Lets really see what the fans want!
And now that Im picking bone, I have yet to hear one good reason Glen Helen was dropped...that race went on year after year and all of a sudden its not good enough for MX sports? What...Bud didnt put in a new toilet, fence...pool w hot girls?
Loosing GH was an insult to us all!
Second of all, I think I am allowed to bench race with someone when they say "girls are ruining motocross" here because I disagree, and I believe they do offer a great additional storyline to these races. But it's obviously not for everyone, so I suggested that they please don't let it ruin their day at the races, that they just take a break at that moment... If you didn't realize that my response to Burn and WORCS and Rupert was tongue-in-cheek then....
Wait, I am debating humor and women's motocross with someone named "bearded clam."
DC
MX Sports
The new 250 and 450 classes have left a big dead space in motocross. Bringing the 125 back to the national stage would be a good thing and I can only imagine it is a Japanese OEM or two that is preventing DC to agree with me. A one or two round gig with mixed bikes would probably be as big of a flop as the CRF150R cup. I have yet to hear of anyone who gave that class a thumbs up.
You have to wonder what would happen if DC actually said he would try it. What type of persecution would he face? Would Honda Kawasaki Suzuki threaten to pull out of the MX series? As long as no money has changed hands, this is the only thing they could do. Would be interesting, but I doubt they would. Hopefully, their bark is worse than their bite.
What would the series be like without them?
How did this happen? Its not because kids want them but because the
people who actually pay most of the bills in this sport >35 year olds are demanding it. They want to race them for $$ reasons and the people they pay for (their kids) are going to have to race them for $$ reasons too. I can tell you from what ive heard talking to many parents (who aren't hostage to contingency programs) is the kids don't want to race two strokes not because they aren't fun. Not because they aren't fast but because they aren't thought of as cool by other kids. Peer pressure is a powerful thing but given the choice between riding and not riding kids are choosing to ride what they are given at least the ones who are shaping up to be MX lifers anyway.
It's time they change displacement and then both 2 and 4-strokes can ride together. Won't happen.
No one goes to a National to watch the C class.
As for the Douchers bitching about the classes at LL....C'mon ya bunch of whiners!
Every year there is more and more complaining about classes. They should just give you a championship at the gate in the "guy that drives a blue truck rides a yamaha and wears his riding clothes to the track plus 32 1/2 class" and be done with it.
Why did I never hear this much bitching during all of those years of the KTM Junior SX Challenge? After all, some of those kids could barely get around the track! What an embarrassment to the sport that must have been!
I've raced triathlon since '88 only about ten years after it became a sport and I learned quickly just how incredibly capable women in endurance sports can be, especially when treated as equal within it's culture. But that's the key, the culture of the group has to not be caught up in the sort of male dominance that is inherent in motorsports (in our case).
I guess a good question is whether MX is an endurance sport or strictly a motorsport. I think EVERYONE on this board knows quite well which one it is.
Enthusiast sports need professionals and hero's (or heroines) which allow youngsters to see an example to strive toward. Ashley and Jessica (and all the rest) provide that.
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Cheers.
I never said they were ruining motocross...I just said that it seems us the fans dont agree that its fun to watch.
You think there are pleanty of people that do so I say lets do a "poll"...sorry for my spelling. Lets see!
I also hear we have limited TV this year as of now and if Im hearing correct there will be Womens racing on live tv?
And what really happened to GH...Ill put in new toilets if thats what you want. Did Bud piss in your Cheerios?
I am doing what I think is best for the Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship, and part of that is living up to commitment to the WMX and the girls who don't have any place else to ride. They participate in support of the two men's classes that make up the championship, and not only do I think they add a unique storyline to the series, I believe we have a responsibility to give them a chance. You don't like them and I respect that. I am sure there are people who go to many different types of sporting events and don't appreciate or enjoy all of the entertainment presented to them, but hopefully the core of the event -- the 250 and 450 divisions -- are enough to keep you coming back. The crowds are growing, the TV audience is growing, the top riders are all back on the tour, with the best international riders coming here too, so it seems like we're headed in a good direction, given the challenges we all have right now.
And for the last time, Glen Helen canceled their national and did a longterm deal to produce GP races and maybe even a Motocross of Nations. I am not sure what else I need to explain here. I went to the GP last year and it was a very good event.
DC
MX Sports
DC
MX Sports
yeah, MX sports needs to drop WMX IMO ..cause no one cares..
Alexah is def a hottie though
6 125 for a championship
Let the fans decide which one they like.
All I want for Christmas is a new race season. Oh, and an eco-fuel endurocross sidehack trials class.
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