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flarider 10/20/2011 8:11am
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He's had it a month, tell him to fuck off

and you know you're going to get it back ragged out. Be funny to have him drag it back so you can see it and refuse to take it back because it is not in the same condition in which you delivered it.

"Hey, air filter is dirty. Sorry, I am not going to take it back since it is not in the same condition I delivered it. You obviously used it. I am not a rental agency. Have a nice day."
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smoker 10/20/2011 8:21am
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dude, tell him to beat it.
TripleFive 10/20/2011 8:22am
10/20/2011 8:22am
Under no circumstance should you take it back. Even if there is something sketch that would allow him to return the bike, you are still entitled to compensation for the use of the bike while he has had it.
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Racer111 10/20/2011 8:23am
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mxtech1 wrote:
I recently sold a used Honda CR250 to guy. it ran good and everything he bought it in cash no big deal. I gave him the...
I recently sold a used Honda CR250 to guy. it ran good and everything he bought it in cash no big deal. I gave him the registration and papers for the bike which he didn't really look at that well, he basically just threw them in his truck and we loaded the bike up for him. we chatted a bit before he left, he told me he was going to take the bike riding that weekend and then he was going on a vaction for a week after that.

About 10 days later, i got a text from him saying he needed a bill of sale to go along with the registration because after he looked at the registration closer, he found it had not been signed over correctly from the previous sellers. I tell him no big deal and I would get a bill of sale wrote up. He came by later that day. I gave him the bill of sale, he read it and then declined to sign off on it.

At that point he lifts up his shirt and shows me a badge and says hes an off-duty cop. He goes into this story about how it is required for him to have every auto, bike, toy, etc. registered with the state but he can't register the bike because of the problems with the registration and he is worried it might be stolen, even though the registration papers match the bike. I 100% know the bike is not stolen and I bought it through a legit transaction. I offer to get the title straightened out or offered to apply for a bonded title for the bike because i'm thinking he wants to keep the bike since he got it at a pretty good price. He says no to all that and says he just wants to return it for his money back. Starting to get kind of pissy with him, I just told him yea whatever just to bring it back and ill refund his money and i'll get the title straightened out myself.

Well all this started in early september. it seems everytime i set up a time with him to return the bike he makes an excuse why he can't come and keeps re-scheduling. It seems he's just jerking me around because he's a cop and might think he has something since the registration was not signed correctly. I have a gut feeling he's just been riding the bike and is going to return it when the cold weather comes here soon. I guess it's partially my fault because I did not look at the papers close enough before I sent him off with it, but i feel like the way he's dragging this whole deal out is not right. If it was within a cuple days after the transaction he made a return...yea no big deal. But it sucks because I had already used the money from the bike sale to buy materials to finish off my garage (the only reason i sold the bike in the first place) so I had to do some begging and borrowing to get his return money and now it's just sitting.
You have pics of the bike as it looked when you sold it, correct? Take pics of it when he returns it. Then take him to court of the bike is damaged at all.

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crashnburn11 10/20/2011 8:27am
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You have pics of the bike as it looked when you sold it, correct? Take pics of it when he returns it. Then take him to...
You have pics of the bike as it looked when you sold it, correct? Take pics of it when he returns it. Then take him to court of the bike is damaged at all.
Nah, don't take him to court, just tell him to go kick rocks if it isn't in the same condition
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kopfjaeger 10/20/2011 8:27am
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From a cop.. Hes a frickin crook whether he is a cop or not!! Dont give him shit back. Ask who he works for and what his badge/id number is. Then tell him not to contact you again or you will report him to his internal affairs dept for official oppression Or harrassment however your states penal code identifies using the color of your office for personal/illegal activity. If your state allows one party consent then record any conversations with him. Be sure to record yourself saying how you attempted to provide a bill of sale but that you will not return a bike he has had so long. Be super nice and cool no matter how pissy he gets. Give a copy of that convo to his iad. I fuckin hate crooked cops. And he could be lying so you could report the impersonation. GOod luck
TripleFive 10/20/2011 8:28am
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Racer111 wrote:
You have pics of the bike as it looked when you sold it, correct? Take pics of it when he returns it. Then take him to...
You have pics of the bike as it looked when you sold it, correct? Take pics of it when he returns it. Then take him to court of the bike is damaged at all.
No. Don't let him return it. Don't give him the cash. Tell him to contact your attorney.
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jeffro503 10/20/2011 8:31am
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MXTECH1...........DO NOT take that bike back! Selling a used bike is a "AS IS" type sale! You don't know what kind of riding he has been doing with it , and I'll bet my ass he has been out just beating the crap out of it. Obviously it runs fine , so there was never anything wrong with it.

Bottom line here......just because he's a cop , does NOT mean he's an honest person. Tell him to go screw himself! Also tell him , that if he doesn't like it......go get a friggin' lawyer.

Most of these guys in this thread have given you some great advice........my advice would be to listen to them! Don't let some guy take advantage of you just because he says he's a cop! He is a person just like the rest of us. Having a badge does NOT mean he gets to make the rules and take advantage of people.
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Cygnus 10/20/2011 8:34am
10/20/2011 8:34am Edited Date/Time 10/20/2011 8:35am
If you give this guy his money back dont come back here. there is lots of good advice on here. Use it.
miedosoracing1 10/20/2011 8:42am
10/20/2011 8:42am Edited Date/Time 10/20/2011 8:46am
MX, I wasn't completely talking about the bike, when I said all info was possibly not given. I'm talking about you personally. Do you have anything to worry about, from any officers? Things like that. Not just one thing or the other, I was referring to the fact that you are stating you will still give the money back even though everyone here has given very good advice, including an officer. Thus, why I asked, did you leave anything out as to why you would still go against what we said? We've shown there isn't a possiblity for legal action, other than him trying to sue you. Anyone can sue anyone for any reason. So that has no basis. So to say you are worried about legal action still would make me believe you are worried about something else.
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MOTODAD422 10/20/2011 8:44am
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If the VIN on the title matches the VIN on the bike no matter what mistakes were made in signing this line or that line, the sale is legit. Tell him you will go to a notary with him to have the issue resolved. Do not give him his money back.
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lucero10x 10/20/2011 8:45am
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mxtech1 wrote:
Like I said...i'm just trying to avoid legal action over a dirt bike. I HAD no problem returning his money because I know the bike will...
Like I said...i'm just trying to avoid legal action over a dirt bike. I HAD no problem returning his money because I know the bike will re-sell easily because I have it priced below average for a quick sale becuse I needed the money for my garage. At this point i'm fed up. I was trying to be accomodating because yes he did intimidate me with the fact that he involvled his status as a cop. I think now i just need to stand up for myself and deal with anything that happens after that because I haven't done anything wrong. I'm not witholding information, i described the events as they happened. I figured I would tell the story, and I did without bias towards either party and get the feelings of a neutral party (you guys)

The transaction took place the week of the 19th-25th of september and he has had the bike since. He first contacted me about a return on october 6th.
did you give him back his money?
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mxtech1 10/20/2011 8:45am
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MX, I wasn't completely talking about the bike, when I said all info was possibly not given. I'm talking about you personally. Do you have anything...
MX, I wasn't completely talking about the bike, when I said all info was possibly not given. I'm talking about you personally. Do you have anything to worry about, from any officers? Things like that. Not just one thing or the other, I was referring to the fact that you are stating you will still give the money back even though everyone here has given very good advice, including an officer. Thus, why I asked, did you leave anything out as to why you would still go against what we said? We've shown there isn't a possiblity for legal action, other than him trying to sue you. Anyone can sue anyone for any reason. So that has no basis. So to say you are worried about legal action still would make me believe you are worried about something else.
Nope I've never been in any type of trouble with the police minus a speeding ticket and a bar fight..lol. I have nothing in regards to that matter....im a law obiding citzen.
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mxtech1 10/20/2011 8:47am
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I appreciate everyone's advice. I am not going to see him tomorrow for the return and I will be going to the local police department after work today to explain the situation and go from there.
miedosoracing1 10/20/2011 8:47am
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MX, I wasn't completely talking about the bike, when I said all info was possibly not given. I'm talking about you personally. Do you have anything...
MX, I wasn't completely talking about the bike, when I said all info was possibly not given. I'm talking about you personally. Do you have anything to worry about, from any officers? Things like that. Not just one thing or the other, I was referring to the fact that you are stating you will still give the money back even though everyone here has given very good advice, including an officer. Thus, why I asked, did you leave anything out as to why you would still go against what we said? We've shown there isn't a possiblity for legal action, other than him trying to sue you. Anyone can sue anyone for any reason. So that has no basis. So to say you are worried about legal action still would make me believe you are worried about something else.
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Nope I've never been in any type of trouble with the police minus a speeding ticket and a bar fight..lol. I have nothing in regards to...
Nope I've never been in any type of trouble with the police minus a speeding ticket and a bar fight..lol. I have nothing in regards to that matter....im a law obiding citzen.
Sounds good, then following the law now, would mean bike is sold. End of story.
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MXD 10/20/2011 8:51am
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mxtech1 wrote:
I appreciate everyone's advice. I am not going to see him tomorrow for the return and I will be going to the local police department after...
I appreciate everyone's advice. I am not going to see him tomorrow for the return and I will be going to the local police department after work today to explain the situation and go from there.
Thats a step in the right direction but I wouldn't waste your gas driving there. Tell him to enjoy his new bike. If there is any legal issue, let him figure it out. Don't do his work for him, let him waste his time.
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jeffro503 10/20/2011 8:53am
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mxtech1 wrote:
I appreciate everyone's advice. I am not going to see him tomorrow for the return and I will be going to the local police department after...
I appreciate everyone's advice. I am not going to see him tomorrow for the return and I will be going to the local police department after work today to explain the situation and go from there.
You are doing it right! I respect officers for what they do ( most of them ) , but this guy sounds like a complete douche'! What pisses me off is , he showed you his badge as if he was trying to intimidate you and get his money back.....after he went out for a month and thrashed your bike! I wish I could be there to see the look on his face when you tell him to go pound sand. That takes a lot of nerve to try and screw someone over like that.

OH yeah.....since he's into bikes / MX....tell him to sign up here. I'll give him a verbal lashing , along with everyone else. He'll need therapy afterwords. hehe.
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FastEddy 10/20/2011 9:05am
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mxtech1 wrote:
I appreciate everyone's advice. I am not going to see him tomorrow for the return and I will be going to the local police department after...
I appreciate everyone's advice. I am not going to see him tomorrow for the return and I will be going to the local police department after work today to explain the situation and go from there.
Check your email and let me know if that if that is him...or not.
I will do some more digging....if it isn't.

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jeffro503 10/20/2011 9:10am
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mxtech1 wrote:
I appreciate everyone's advice. I am not going to see him tomorrow for the return and I will be going to the local police department after...
I appreciate everyone's advice. I am not going to see him tomorrow for the return and I will be going to the local police department after work today to explain the situation and go from there.
FastEddy wrote:
Check your email and let me know if that if that is him...or not.
I will do some more digging....if it isn't.
Eddy can find any dirt on anyone! Glad i'm friends with the dude! The cop will be scrubbin' toilets in Antarctica after Eddy gets done with him! HAHA!! Woohoo Woohoo
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FastEddy 10/20/2011 9:14am
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mxtech1 wrote:
I appreciate everyone's advice. I am not going to see him tomorrow for the return and I will be going to the local police department after...
I appreciate everyone's advice. I am not going to see him tomorrow for the return and I will be going to the local police department after work today to explain the situation and go from there.
FastEddy wrote:
Check your email and let me know if that if that is him...or not.
I will do some more digging....if it isn't.
jeffro503 wrote:
Eddy can find any dirt on anyone! Glad i'm friends with the dude! The cop will be scrubbin' toilets in Antarctica after Eddy gets done with...
Eddy can find any dirt on anyone! Glad i'm friends with the dude! The cop will be scrubbin' toilets in Antarctica after Eddy gets done with him! HAHA!! Woohoo Woohoo
Grinning LOL
We were just seeing if the guy was a cop...or not.
I had no last name to go off of,but got a hit lol.
If not the dude has a shady looking brother that is into scooters...that could be using his brothers badge. lol
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BuDz34 10/20/2011 9:18am
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mxtech1 wrote:
Like I said...i'm just trying to avoid legal action over a dirt bike. I HAD no problem returning his money because I know the bike will...
Like I said...i'm just trying to avoid legal action over a dirt bike. I HAD no problem returning his money because I know the bike will re-sell easily because I have it priced below average for a quick sale becuse I needed the money for my garage. At this point i'm fed up. I was trying to be accomodating because yes he did intimidate me with the fact that he involvled his status as a cop. I think now i just need to stand up for myself and deal with anything that happens after that because I haven't done anything wrong. I'm not witholding information, i described the events as they happened. I figured I would tell the story, and I did without bias towards either party and get the feelings of a neutral party (you guys)

The transaction took place the week of the 19th-25th of september and he has had the bike since. He first contacted me about a return on october 6th.
you can call his bureau and inform them of the situation.. he's using his role as a member of the PD(or whatever he is) to take advantage of the situation.
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lilbulld 10/20/2011 9:27am
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mxtech1 wrote:
I guess my only concern is if it's really my fault because I gave him invalid registration and did not do a bill of sale at...
I guess my only concern is if it's really my fault because I gave him invalid registration and did not do a bill of sale at the time of the transaction? If he has something on me there i'm not sure i can legally do anything but accept his request for a return.

How do i go about finding out if he's really a cop without coming across as a dick face and pissing him off?
It is not right, and if you have a decent local PD contact Internal Affairs and they should take care of it for you and maybe give you the information you need... I had a run in with an off duty cop once that was ridiculous and when I contacted them and gave them all the info and the situation they were very apologetic, saying they would get to the bottom of it and what happend was not alright... It would be no different than anyone else buying a bike, he knew what he was getting, but I would say that every bike or car Ive sold in the past whether I have the title or not, do a bill of sale just for this reason.. as long as the bike is not stolen, him being an off duty cop is irrelevant in this situation... most of the local credit unions around here do the same as well as far as the bill of sale in addition to title
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CR250Rider 10/20/2011 9:38am
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prob not really a cop anyway.

keep us updated, ok?
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mxtech1 10/20/2011 9:52am
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FastEddy wrote:
Check your email and let me know if that if that is him...or not.
I will do some more digging....if it isn't.
jeffro503 wrote:
Eddy can find any dirt on anyone! Glad i'm friends with the dude! The cop will be scrubbin' toilets in Antarctica after Eddy gets done with...
Eddy can find any dirt on anyone! Glad i'm friends with the dude! The cop will be scrubbin' toilets in Antarctica after Eddy gets done with him! HAHA!! Woohoo Woohoo
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:lol: LOL We were just seeing if the guy was a cop...or not. I had no last name to go off of,but got a hit lol...
Grinning LOL
We were just seeing if the guy was a cop...or not.
I had no last name to go off of,but got a hit lol.
If not the dude has a shady looking brother that is into scooters...that could be using his brothers badge. lol
I don't think the picture was him but their was some resemblance in body build and in the face to the guy who bought the bike. brother info?
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FastEddy 10/20/2011 10:06am
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I don't think the picture was him but their was some resemblance in body build and in the face to the guy who bought the bike...
I don't think the picture was him but their was some resemblance in body build and in the face to the guy who bought the bike. brother info?
Check yer email...

Also keep in mind the first photos I sent you are about a year old or so.
If he is working undercover now...he may have changed his appearance some,that is usually typical.
Look at eyes & nose...etc..

By the way...was he driving a chevy silverado?
Because that is what guy #1 owned I believe.
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txmxer 10/20/2011 10:42am
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Even NEW dirt bikes are sold "As Is" with no warranty.
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peelout 10/20/2011 10:50am
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he pulled his shirt up and showed you his badge?

what a douche bag, cop or not. show him both middle fingers and tell him to fuck off
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mxtech1 10/20/2011 11:29am
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I don't think the picture was him but their was some resemblance in body build and in the face to the guy who bought the bike...
I don't think the picture was him but their was some resemblance in body build and in the face to the guy who bought the bike. brother info?
FastEddy wrote:
Check yer email... Also keep in mind the first photos I sent you are about a year old or so. If he is working undercover now...he...
Check yer email...

Also keep in mind the first photos I sent you are about a year old or so.
If he is working undercover now...he may have changed his appearance some,that is usually typical.
Look at eyes & nose...etc..

By the way...was he driving a chevy silverado?
Because that is what guy #1 owned I believe.
He picked the bike up in a late model Tacoma. When he returned for a bill of sale he was driving a late model Jeep wrangler
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Racer111 10/20/2011 11:32am
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mxtech1 wrote:
I don't think the picture was him but their was some resemblance in body build and in the face to the guy who bought the bike...
I don't think the picture was him but their was some resemblance in body build and in the face to the guy who bought the bike. brother info?
FastEddy wrote:
Check yer email... Also keep in mind the first photos I sent you are about a year old or so. If he is working undercover now...he...
Check yer email...

Also keep in mind the first photos I sent you are about a year old or so.
If he is working undercover now...he may have changed his appearance some,that is usually typical.
Look at eyes & nose...etc..

By the way...was he driving a chevy silverado?
Because that is what guy #1 owned I believe.
mxtech1 wrote:
He picked the bike up in a late model Tacoma. When he returned for a bill of sale he was driving a late model Jeep wrangler
He probably returned the Tacoma as it didn't have a clear title. Tongue
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FastEddy 10/20/2011 11:42am
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He picked the bike up in a late model Tacoma. When he returned for a bill of sale he was driving a late model Jeep wrangler
I sent you a list of every LEO that is employed with either a State,County or City law enforcement agency in the state of IL,that has the same legal first name you gave me. With each agency they work for...(there is only 7 with that name).
The closest one to you was guy #1 (the first pics I sent)...that you said sorta resembled him.
He was hired on in November of 2005. (He once busted a guy named James Stewart for a meth lab lol-true story)
If it isn't any of those guys on the list...then he isn't a LEO.

I would have a friend call that cell number you have for him,and be like hey whats up is this "refer to him by the last name I gave you". See if it's him... Wink

If not call the police give that number and info to them..etc.

Hope that helps.

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