Dungey straight up crushed MX1 world champ Cairoli in th 2012 MXON

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mxr300ex 10/9/2011 11:33am
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I know what you're saying but Dungey beat him last year too.
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mxgeoff 10/9/2011 11:40am
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I know what you're saying but Dungey beat him last year too.
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of the day the results say more than anything. Villopoto and Dungey have proven they are number one and two in the World at the moment.
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mxr300ex 10/9/2011 11:51am
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mxr300ex wrote:
I know what you're saying but Dungey beat him last year too.
mxgeoff wrote:
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of...
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of the day the results say more than anything. Villopoto and Dungey have proven they are number one and two in the World at the moment.
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the world in both classes.
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pilotdude 10/9/2011 11:58am
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mxr300ex wrote:
I know what you're saying but Dungey beat him last year too.
mxgeoff wrote:
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of...
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of the day the results say more than anything. Villopoto and Dungey have proven they are number one and two in the World at the moment.
mxr300ex wrote:
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the...
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the world in both classes.
It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that Roczen is faster than Ryan Villopoto, I am going to say you are absolutely full of shit. That is a slap in the face of obvious reality and you Roczen ball sucking aholes are making statements that are quite simply foolish.

If Ken Roczen is the fastest rider in the world, why didn't he win his qualifier at the MXdN? Why didn't he win either of his motos? Why did he crash himself silly during supercross? I mean really, shut the hell up already and give some effing respect to the riders that have proven themselves faster than him just in the last 2 weeks for fucks sake.

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mxr300ex 10/9/2011 12:02pm
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mxgeoff wrote:
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of...
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of the day the results say more than anything. Villopoto and Dungey have proven they are number one and two in the World at the moment.
mxr300ex wrote:
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the...
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the world in both classes.
pilotdude wrote:
It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that...
It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that Roczen is faster than Ryan Villopoto, I am going to say you are absolutely full of shit. That is a slap in the face of obvious reality and you Roczen ball sucking aholes are making statements that are quite simply foolish.

If Ken Roczen is the fastest rider in the world, why didn't he win his qualifier at the MXdN? Why didn't he win either of his motos? Why did he crash himself silly during supercross? I mean really, shut the hell up already and give some effing respect to the riders that have proven themselves faster than him just in the last 2 weeks for fucks sake.
Calm down boy. I said possibly the fastest. If he was on a 450 who knows.
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mxgeoff wrote:
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of...
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of the day the results say more than anything. Villopoto and Dungey have proven they are number one and two in the World at the moment.
mxr300ex wrote:
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the...
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the world in both classes.
pilotdude wrote:
It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that...
It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that Roczen is faster than Ryan Villopoto, I am going to say you are absolutely full of shit. That is a slap in the face of obvious reality and you Roczen ball sucking aholes are making statements that are quite simply foolish.

If Ken Roczen is the fastest rider in the world, why didn't he win his qualifier at the MXdN? Why didn't he win either of his motos? Why did he crash himself silly during supercross? I mean really, shut the hell up already and give some effing respect to the riders that have proven themselves faster than him just in the last 2 weeks for fucks sake.
he beat dungey on a 250f in the main race
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mxr300ex 10/9/2011 12:06pm
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mxgeoff wrote:
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of...
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of the day the results say more than anything. Villopoto and Dungey have proven they are number one and two in the World at the moment.
mxr300ex wrote:
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the...
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the world in both classes.
pilotdude wrote:
It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that...
It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that Roczen is faster than Ryan Villopoto, I am going to say you are absolutely full of shit. That is a slap in the face of obvious reality and you Roczen ball sucking aholes are making statements that are quite simply foolish.

If Ken Roczen is the fastest rider in the world, why didn't he win his qualifier at the MXdN? Why didn't he win either of his motos? Why did he crash himself silly during supercross? I mean really, shut the hell up already and give some effing respect to the riders that have proven themselves faster than him just in the last 2 weeks for fucks sake.
You need to watch the second MOTO where Roczen and villopoto battled almost the entire MOTO passing each other back and forth and Roczen was on a 250.
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ayearinmx 10/9/2011 12:10pm
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they really need to change up the whole organisation of the MXDNs...... they should put the main races on the Saturday, and then have the qualifying races on the Sunday..... y'know, because they are sooooo important after all Whistling
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mxr300ex wrote:
You need to watch the second MOTO where Roczen and villopoto battled almost the entire MOTO passing each other back and forth and Roczen was on...
You need to watch the second MOTO where Roczen and villopoto battled almost the entire MOTO passing each other back and forth and Roczen was on a 250.
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mxr300ex 10/9/2011 12:22pm
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Before that clip Villopoto struggled for a while with Roczen.
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pilotdude 10/9/2011 12:31pm
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mxr300ex wrote:
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the...
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the world in both classes.
pilotdude wrote:
It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that...
It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that Roczen is faster than Ryan Villopoto, I am going to say you are absolutely full of shit. That is a slap in the face of obvious reality and you Roczen ball sucking aholes are making statements that are quite simply foolish.

If Ken Roczen is the fastest rider in the world, why didn't he win his qualifier at the MXdN? Why didn't he win either of his motos? Why did he crash himself silly during supercross? I mean really, shut the hell up already and give some effing respect to the riders that have proven themselves faster than him just in the last 2 weeks for fucks sake.
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Calm down boy. I said possibly the fastest. If he was on a 450 who knows.
Don't call me boy again, you hear me?
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kongols 10/9/2011 12:37pm
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I`m telling you, Roczen will get booed big time in USA if he starts winning there.
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pilotdude 10/9/2011 12:43pm
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I've seen a lot of foreign riders race and win here and I've not noticed any booing. I've heard Pourcel got booed a bit though but I didn't see any of that at Washougal. I've heard Chad Reed get booed when he was supercross only. Same for Stewart. Carmichael got booed huge when he switched to Honda from Kawasaki. Personally I don't think Roczen has much to worry about other than some over the top fanboys making ego bets they want his body to cash.
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mxgeoff 10/9/2011 12:45pm
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I`m telling you, Roczen will get booed big time in USA if he starts winning there.
I think Roczen is such a good kid he won't get booed. I think he is already like an America. They will all love him.
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kongols 10/9/2011 12:47pm
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I`m telling you, Roczen will get booed big time in USA if he starts winning there.
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I think Roczen is such a good kid he won't get booed. I think he is already like an America. They will all love him.
I don`t believe it anymore...Sad Unsure Dry
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pilotdude 10/9/2011 12:53pm
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kongols wrote:
I`m telling you, Roczen will get booed big time in USA if he starts winning there.
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I think Roczen is such a good kid he won't get booed. I think he is already like an America. They will all love him.
Exactly. He's not some mysterious, pouting, "enigma". He's got a positive attitude and he rips.
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broman64 10/9/2011 1:06pm
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If your going for bait you should have used RV on your hook. . . because Roczen straight up crushed 2010 SX & MX champ Dungey...
If your going for bait you should have used RV on your hook. . . because Roczen straight up crushed 2010 SX & MX champ Dungey on a 250f Wink
whatever you say, We will see all of his crushing this year when he leaves your gp level too up his game in the America...
I don't think he buys that same rhetoric, and he is wisting the throttle, not you... You are a fool, and because of you, and ones like you, KROC will have a rude awakening, as well an uphill battle, acceptance wise... Now, time to push away from the table and stfu...
Now I know you're a biased idiot too... what a joke you are...
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broman64 10/9/2011 1:09pm
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mxgeoff wrote:
I think Roczen is such a good kid he won't get booed. I think he is already like an America. They will all love him.
no thanks to your, "euro guys rock and US guys suck", idiots... I say, stay home where your core fans are... I, for one, can do without the fools that come out and think they have anything to do with a racers speed...
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scooter5002 10/9/2011 1:33pm
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mxgeoff wrote:
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of...
I don't think it would be correct to not rate Dungey better than Cairoli and we can keep thinking of excuses, but at the end of the day the results say more than anything. Villopoto and Dungey have proven they are number one and two in the World at the moment.
mxr300ex wrote:
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the...
I agree with you and in an unbiased point of view I think Roczen is the fastest 250 rider and possibly the fastest rider in the world in both classes.
pilotdude wrote:
It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that...
It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that Roczen is faster than Ryan Villopoto, I am going to say you are absolutely full of shit. That is a slap in the face of obvious reality and you Roczen ball sucking aholes are making statements that are quite simply foolish.

If Ken Roczen is the fastest rider in the world, why didn't he win his qualifier at the MXdN? Why didn't he win either of his motos? Why did he crash himself silly during supercross? I mean really, shut the hell up already and give some effing respect to the riders that have proven themselves faster than him just in the last 2 weeks for fucks sake.
Duuuuude................take a breath, step away from the keyboard and repeat after me. Oooohhhhmmm. Oooohhhhmmm. There, feel better? It's just the I N T E R N E T. It has people with "opinions" on it. I know, really. That's all they are.
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carlosmacho 10/9/2011 1:40pm
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Dungey won with Cairoli all over him, not exactly a crushing then AC broke his wrist. Pretty much proved what everyone knows ... the level in...
Dungey won with Cairoli all over him, not exactly a crushing then AC broke his wrist. Pretty much proved what everyone knows ... the level in America is similar to the level in the world championship.

If you want to prove your better than the World Champ beat him in the World Championship... anything else doesn't really count.

why did you not post a similar thread when Frossard, Desalle or Bobby beat AC in the GPs? or do you use double standards as to what an individual race victory means ?
If Everts won 7 FIM Championships in a row would you not say that he was on a different level than his competition and would you not say that he was dominant for that era? Well the Americans have won 7 years straight in the MXDN, that would mean that they are the dominate riders of this era and they are not on the same level as the Europeans.
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pilotdude 10/9/2011 1:41pm
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"Duuuuude................take a breath, step away from the keyboard and repeat after me. Oooohhhhmmm. Oooohhhhmmm. There, feel better? It's just the I N T E R N E T. It has people with "opinions" on it. I know, really. That's all they are."


I'm perfectly calm. Does it make you feel superior to talk down to people if they call someone out on their bullshit? How did Team Canada do this year in the MXdN?
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carlosmacho 10/9/2011 1:57pm
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You have to be realistic, bike sales in America are huge compared to bike sales in Italy, Belgium, England or even Australia for that matter. No...
You have to be realistic, bike sales in America are huge compared to bike sales in Italy, Belgium, England or even Australia for that matter.

No team should beat Team USA, it's nearly an impossible taste with the amount of riders you guys have and the face teams come close every year is gives more respect to those teams than to Team USA.

I think all the non-American fans can hope for is that the racing is close and the GP guys get their share of moto wins. The last five or so years it's been just that, with names like Desalle, Paulin, Cairoli, Bobryshev, Philippaerts, Pourcel, Roczen, Herlings and others showing that the GP guys are just as fast as the AMA guys.

I am happy with that and that is why I don't need to shout anymore how great the GP guys are, because they prove it every year at the MXoN.
"You have to be realistic, bike sales in America are huge compared to bike sales in Italy, Belgium, England or even Australia for that matter."
Sales for soccer balls are huge in America compared to Italy, Belgium, England or ever Australia because of sheer numbers however America is not dominating the World Cup are they? How ever if the USA had won the World Cup for the last 7 years, I think even you would have to admit that the USA was at a different level than the rest of the world.

"No team should beat Team USA..."
No team can. Probably because we are on a different level.

"I think all the non-American fans can hope for is that the racing is close and the GP guys get their share of moto wins. The last five or so years it's been just that, with names like Desalle, Paulin, Cairoli, Bobryshev, Philippaerts, Pourcel, Roczen, Herlings and others showing that the GP guys are just as fast as the AMA guys."

You better hope you win next year because all I hear now from the Euro's is how fast your guys are in the sand. Maybe you should hope we send another "B Team" instead of Stewart, Villopoto and Dungey

"I am happy with that and that is why I don't need to shout anymore how great the GP guys are, because they prove it every year at the MXoN."

The Euro's are definitely fast, they are just not on the same level as the USA guys, and that is proven every year at the MXDN.
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jeffro503 10/9/2011 1:59pm
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I`m telling you, Roczen will get booed big time in USA if he starts winning there.
No he won't. People here already love the guy. Are we booing other foreign riders here? Does Reed , Rattray , Metcalf , wilson and the others get booed? They are cherished over here.
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kongols 10/9/2011 2:03pm
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kongols wrote:
I`m telling you, Roczen will get booed big time in USA if he starts winning there.
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No he won't. People here already love the guy. Are we booing other foreign riders here? Does Reed , Rattray , Metcalf , wilson and the...
No he won't. People here already love the guy. Are we booing other foreign riders here? Does Reed , Rattray , Metcalf , wilson and the others get booed? They are cherished over here.
Again- none of them beat top american racers constantly. Reed was the best of them but RC and JS had him covered and now, ten years later, he`s a houshold name in US.
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They didn't just win the mxon, Villopoto and Dungey beat every top rider from every country in the world to win the MX1 and MX3 overall...
They didn't just win the mxon, Villopoto and Dungey beat every top rider from every country in the world to win the MX1 and MX3 overall at the MXON.
Wrong again brains,no Desalle,Frossard,Phillipearts,Nagl and more,looks like that other thread for you all bitter and twisted,

Until a top American does a GP series you can't say they're the best,The GP and the AMA series are as fast as each other,its all about adapting.Roczen won here,if he goes over there and wins there's no more argument as he goes to race in a new country on new tracks and a new lifestyle,and it should all favour the AMA guys .Even with Kenny gone,if you sent Baggett over for a season here he'd croak like he did in France,if he said he'd never ridden a track as hard as that on Sunday then don't send him to Lommel

The US will always be favourites,its a numbers game,the USA is into MX massively compared to anywhere else in the world,especially some of the tiny countries that compete in the MXdN,
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mxr300ex 10/9/2011 2:21pm
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It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that...
It's all good and fine to be agreeable and such, but if you are telling me that from an unbiased point of view you think that Roczen is faster than Ryan Villopoto, I am going to say you are absolutely full of shit. That is a slap in the face of obvious reality and you Roczen ball sucking aholes are making statements that are quite simply foolish.

If Ken Roczen is the fastest rider in the world, why didn't he win his qualifier at the MXdN? Why didn't he win either of his motos? Why did he crash himself silly during supercross? I mean really, shut the hell up already and give some effing respect to the riders that have proven themselves faster than him just in the last 2 weeks for fucks sake.
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Calm down boy. I said possibly the fastest. If he was on a 450 who knows.
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Don't call me boy again, you hear me?
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See what you've gone and done Geoff. Smile
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Calm down boy. I said possibly the fastest. If he was on a 450 who knows.
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Don't call me boy again, you hear me?
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Ok boy!
Tell you what, why don't you tell me what races you plan to go to. We can meet up and settle it in person you fat fuck.
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Don't call me boy again, you hear me?
mxr300ex wrote:
Ok boy!
pilotdude wrote:
Tell you what, why don't you tell me what races you plan to go to. We can meet up and settle it in person you fat...
Tell you what, why don't you tell me what races you plan to go to. We can meet up and settle it in person you fat fuck.
I'm going to Budds Creek and Atlanta Supercross boy.

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