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I just put on a new FMF full system on my 2012 honda 450, The bolts all lined up ok, but the straight part if the pipe that comes back across the frame, is slightly at an angle, wich just doesnt seem right, but again, all the bolts lined up easily, anyone know if the pipe is suppose to be pretty straight around the front of the frame or not??? I apreciate any info..
Few years ago (back when people actually still had money at the track) I used to demo exhaust systems and would install them typically before the second moto. Pipes aren't always about more power but more about changing the power. More often than not people would come in after the second moto talking about how much easier the bike was to ride especially 450 riders.
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Case in point this year Stewart's boys built him a dyno motor that had huge HP but he couldn't ride it. James won SX races with a 52 to 53 HP motor when he was on Kawi so I always chuckle when I read about a 60 HP 450.
Best of luck with your Loudmouth sales....it is a very good product but IMHO it is a compliment to not a substitute for a pipe....never has been and never will be....... except in your sales pitch for a Loudmouth.
Question: Do you have any feedback from teams on how Loudmouth affects sound for the 2 M Max test? I remember it did raise the sound level slightly for static 94 db testing. 2012 will be an interesting year since it is MUCH harder to have a 2 M max compliant bike than passing 94 db.
Fortunately pro racers (who expect everything for free anyway) aren't the target market for anyone interested in making a living in this industry so I assume Loudmouth is focusing on the huge amateur market..
The average rider needs to put $ into suspension and always having good tires before buying any exhaust.
Now if $$ isn't really an object then yeah, exhaust is sweet and FMF is the best choice in my opinion.
So if youve got money, and you want a really good handling bike, maybe spend money on suspension, tires and try out a few different exhaust set ups.
IMO, Pipes and suspensions are a total waste of money for 99% of mxer's. Tires on the other hand are the best performance part you can buy for your bike. They might not look cool but they are difference makers. All that other crap you can put on a bike, Not so much.
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The manufacturers make a stock suspension to suit the masses. So 99% of all mxers must all have the same weight, riding style, ability, ride the same sort of tracks and pretty much no nothing about suspension set up.
I was only responding to the comment that pipes aren't needed for 450s and just shared the feedback I got from working with 450 riders, Depends on the rider and what bike they bought what needs to be done first but no argument suspension is key just as in being in shape is.
If you aren't going the same speed (or at least close to it) on the last lap as you were the first otherwise it really won't matter what suspension, what pipe or tire you're running if your tongue's in the spokes when the white flag comes out.
ebers-Appreciate you posting that.
Fat Fingers-What I described with the pipe demos was one of the first things I did in the industry a few years ago but now focus on providing US made hi quality muffler packing and steel wool to aftermarket exhaust companies.
never needed a pipe for it so it stayed stock, played around with gearing to get power to suit, not ideal but was the cheap way of doing it and easily changeable depending on the type or riding i was doing.
Did think of putting a pipe on the 450, well just the slip on, but that would have been all about looks and nothing else but never had the money.
conversely, the Yosh i bought fit very well.
all the other haters need to realize the poster asked about fitment, not your opinion as to his money should be spent....aftermarket parts put money into the sport and into the economy and those are good things so get a life!
This is why I never got a service Honda 500. LOL. Also why I hated early 4 bangers, now my 05 Honda 450 with Pro-action motor and vortex bored carb with a Yosh system screamed. Scared most poeple but you can ride anything if you practice allot. (Not sure about a 500 2t though) LOL
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