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DrSweden 9/16/2011 6:58pm
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DownSouth wrote:
Like every year, the US team will be fast and consistent while all the other teams will be unable to put 5 good moto scores together.
That's most likely what will happen, with the 2003 mxDn being the exception to that rule of course. I have seen with my own eyes where at least one of the team members of the US brainfarts, only to see team France, or Italy topping that x 2! Smile

Damn, this will be awesome!!!
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cmess77 9/16/2011 7:01pm
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mohammed wrote:
Americans like fast tracks , this track wont be good for there style.
Hallzilla wrote:
your right, with all that supercross racing for half the year, Those tracks are so long and wide open, that won't help at all.
Well Pourcel has won 2 regional SX championships, and Paulin has gotten like a 6th once in a race. Yeah, The Ryan's SX stats pale in comparison to those two gems right there. And look Pala was a super fast track apparently and what did the Americans do there? Bagget only got a 2nd! Compare that to Musquin's 3rd and obviously the Americans don't stand a chance. Fast track / Slow track it doesn't matter, French have it in the bag.
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SL91 9/16/2011 7:05pm
9/16/2011 7:05pm Edited Date/Time 9/16/2011 7:07pm
It's hard to bet against the US, but to say they are unbeatable is going too far. Baggett might be the weak link, then there are mechanicals, crashes, shitty starts, etc. that can come into play for any of the riders no matter how good the team is. Besides, home track advantage has got to help the French team, and Musquin, Paulin, and Pourcel are no slouches. Don't think for a second that Pourcel especially isn't hungry for redemption by proving all the naysayers (especially American ones) wrong!
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rbigair40 9/16/2011 7:17pm
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USA will be the champs !!!!!!!!!! Pourcel has no heart and tryed the ama was a top 10 guy in the 450s (sad) ! and Musquin is good but not good enough but ! and paulin he wont get it done

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pilotdude 9/16/2011 7:35pm
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SL91 wrote:
It's hard to bet against the US, but to say they are unbeatable is going too far. Baggett might be the weak link, then there are...
It's hard to bet against the US, but to say they are unbeatable is going too far. Baggett might be the weak link, then there are mechanicals, crashes, shitty starts, etc. that can come into play for any of the riders no matter how good the team is. Besides, home track advantage has got to help the French team, and Musquin, Paulin, and Pourcel are no slouches. Don't think for a second that Pourcel especially isn't hungry for redemption by proving all the naysayers (especially American ones) wrong!
This is a smart statement. Both Cairoli and Reed got taken out in the 2nd moto in 2009. There are variables that are beyond your control that can bite hard. On a pure speed and racing level, I'm not worried in the least about our boys--it's those "unknowns" and "uncontrollables" that worry me. On the other hand, if someone's bike blows up or someone gets taken out the way Reed or Cairoli did in 09, there is really nothing to be done about it.

This is a dogfight, the participants are almost all aces, and they are all riding the "fighter jets" of the motocross world. Should be good.
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DrSweden 9/16/2011 7:45pm
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Both Ryans' are so damn good, that if they start dead last, they would still end up top ten assuming thier bikes are ok. The risk of than happening is unlikely, and the weak link is Bagget who should for sure get an overall top ten, and if doing good still could win because when he's riding good he's really fast.

One thing to maybe consider is that the field is less than it's usually, as in depth. Many of these riders (?) or at least some wouldn't normally qualifying for a Nationals of GP, but because their country has one or two fast riders they anyway might end up in the A-finals, so the top guys might even have a better chance to climb up if they screw up the start?
Interstellar Overdrive 9/16/2011 8:13pm
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mohammed wrote:
if the americans dont win this weekend. RV and RD are faster but so are paulin and pourcel. I dont think the difference in speed is...
if the americans dont win this weekend. RV and RD are faster but so are paulin and pourcel. I dont think the difference in speed is too much. Home crowd will pump our boys up. Should be interesting. AC will come with a vengence to show the 2 ryans what type of speed he has. The Us boys are faster in SX but MX euros can hang. Its going to be a great weekend of racing.
LOL.
lostboy819 9/16/2011 8:18pm
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i keep readding posts from americans all pumped about the 2 ryans.........no one can beat them, they will be on another level, etc.etc...........don't see the same...
i keep readding posts from americans all pumped about the 2 ryans.........no one can beat them, they will be on another level, etc.etc...........don't see the same support and confidence on baggett.....and it takes the 3 of them to win it....!!!!!
i guess he deserved a bit more cheers from his own team fans......this way he will have a huge weight on its shoulders on sunday....this atitude of us fans to only bragg on the 2 ryans could bild the weak point on the team.... i think the kid really needs his nation moral support, he's on the tougher spot of the 3....!!!!!!
Baggets the week link and he reminds me of the banjo player.

Interstellar Overdrive 9/16/2011 8:19pm
9/16/2011 8:19pm
lostboy819 wrote:
Baggets the week link and he reminds me of the banjo player.

Bagget's the weak link? If that's the case, then I think we will do pretty darn good.
lostboy819 9/16/2011 8:24pm
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Interstellar Overdrive wrote:
Bagget's the weak link? If that's the case, then I think we will do pretty darn good.
when the weak link won more motos this year than all the euros combined, I agree we are sitting pretty.Wink
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RealityZ 9/16/2011 8:24pm
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Anybody else notice how dry the track looked today? Shouldn't they have been soaking it for a long weekend of racing.

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Did they not realize the Ryans went tooth and nail on a dry Steel City just two weeks ago. Baggets good on the dry too.
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dboivin 9/16/2011 8:38pm
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i'll take baggett as the weak link all day long...lol. thats a pretty sweet "weak" link. All he's gotta do is stay up and finish. He's also better on the hard pack tracks...you guys baggin on him are gonna eat crow.
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mohammed wrote:
if the americans dont win this weekend. RV and RD are faster but so are paulin and pourcel. I dont think the difference in speed is...
if the americans dont win this weekend. RV and RD are faster but so are paulin and pourcel. I dont think the difference in speed is too much. Home crowd will pump our boys up. Should be interesting. AC will come with a vengence to show the 2 ryans what type of speed he has. The Us boys are faster in SX but MX euros can hang. Its going to be a great weekend of racing.
Only way we don't win is if there is a wreck/mechanical, or it rains. No way anyone beats the Ryans straight up. The only one that can is racing trucks and is also from the US.
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I know that I won't be suprised that Mohammed will once again slip into lurk mode until next years mxdn.
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mohammed wrote:
if the americans dont win this weekend. RV and RD are faster but so are paulin and pourcel. I dont think the difference in speed is...
if the americans dont win this weekend. RV and RD are faster but so are paulin and pourcel. I dont think the difference in speed is too much. Home crowd will pump our boys up. Should be interesting. AC will come with a vengence to show the 2 ryans what type of speed he has. The Us boys are faster in SX but MX euros can hang. Its going to be a great weekend of racing.
lostboy819 wrote:
I would be very surprised if they dont win this weekend, infact I would be very surprised if they didnt win again next year, and the...
I would be very surprised if they dont win this weekend, infact I would be very surprised if they didnt win again next year, and the next year and the next. etc.
I don't KNOW who is going to win this year. But,I think if we were all completely honest,there is one thing that all of us from every country could agree on.We would all be SURPRISED if the US doesn't win again.Wink
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moto282 9/16/2011 9:10pm
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mohammed wrote:
if the americans dont win this weekend. RV and RD are faster but so are paulin and pourcel. I dont think the difference in speed is...
if the americans dont win this weekend. RV and RD are faster but so are paulin and pourcel. I dont think the difference in speed is too much. Home crowd will pump our boys up. Should be interesting. AC will come with a vengence to show the 2 ryans what type of speed he has. The Us boys are faster in SX but MX euros can hang. Its going to be a great weekend of racing.
Didn't you make a similar post last year before MXDN then disappear from vital for a few months?
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7I3N 9/16/2011 9:23pm
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mohammed wrote:
if the americans dont win this weekend. RV and RD are faster but so are paulin and pourcel. I dont think the difference in speed is...
if the americans dont win this weekend. RV and RD are faster but so are paulin and pourcel. I dont think the difference in speed is too much. Home crowd will pump our boys up. Should be interesting. AC will come with a vengence to show the 2 ryans what type of speed he has. The Us boys are faster in SX but MX euros can hang. Its going to be a great weekend of racing.
You guys have a strong team this year, but you are gonna shit when you see how fast the Ryans are. Seriously. Wink

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the verbal diarhea that people come up with in some strange effort to discredit the US's chances at an MXdN title absolutely blows my f*cking mind. I live in a foreign country, so i deal with anti-american rhetoric everytime i try to order a beer. but to see it spill into the motocross scene, on a US based site just makes me vomit.
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chrisbuehler 9/16/2011 11:48pm
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mohammed wrote:
if the americans dont win this weekend. RV and RD are faster but so are paulin and pourcel. I dont think the difference in speed is...
if the americans dont win this weekend. RV and RD are faster but so are paulin and pourcel. I dont think the difference in speed is too much. Home crowd will pump our boys up. Should be interesting. AC will come with a vengence to show the 2 ryans what type of speed he has. The Us boys are faster in SX but MX euros can hang. Its going to be a great weekend of racing.
7I3N wrote:
You guys have a strong team this year, but you are gonna shit when you see how fast the Ryans are. Seriously. Wink
Just watch Pala , BOTH motos.Their pace through the pack after bad starts was jaw-dropping. AC can run it I hope because it will make for a great race. The rest of those guys I doubt it. I cant wait to see Roczen and would be surprized if Wilson beats him.
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plowboy 9/16/2011 11:53pm
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I posted to a similar thread the other night. This is racing (albeit a really BIG race) and anything can happen but barring any bad luck the US should be on top of the box. I'm not putting down the euros or their speed/skill. I just think the Ryans are two of the most gutsy and determined riders in the sport at the moment. I can't comment about Bagget because even though he's had a good season, he's a rookie at the Nations. I'm sure he'll do his dead level best. Other nations have excellent/awesome riders and if they didn't then this wouldn't be so exciting and captivating. Let's get this thing started and all enjoy the worlds best doin' it in the dirt. (Hope all the guys wear as much protection as possible cause St. Jean is a rocky mofo).
GoldenState54 9/17/2011 12:29am
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Don't be surprised if an el chupacabra shows up in MX2.
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mx_563 9/17/2011 1:02am
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I won't be surprised if France wins. I think it would be cool, actually. I was at Namur when they won in 2001 with Demaria, DV12 and Seguy. But you gotta like USA's chances. I think they have less pressure than the French team (not to mention that RV, RD and BB are not exactly slow)

BTW: I love when mohammed stirs the pot. Ha ha!
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MX_Andrew83 9/17/2011 6:23am
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I will take Bagget as our weak link any day over Pourcel as a strong suit.
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dboivin 9/17/2011 9:35am
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i'll take baggett as the weak link all day long...lol. thats a pretty sweet "weak" link. All he's gotta do is stay up and finish. He's...
i'll take baggett as the weak link all day long...lol. thats a pretty sweet "weak" link. All he's gotta do is stay up and finish. He's also better on the hard pack tracks...you guys baggin on him are gonna eat crow.
oh snap.
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ehr400 9/17/2011 9:54am
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dboivin wrote:
i'll take baggett as the weak link all day long...lol. thats a pretty sweet "weak" link. All he's gotta do is stay up and finish. He's...
i'll take baggett as the weak link all day long...lol. thats a pretty sweet "weak" link. All he's gotta do is stay up and finish. He's also better on the hard pack tracks...you guys baggin on him are gonna eat crow.
dboivin wrote:
oh snap.
X2^

I hear crickets from the Euro groupies.
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SlowMoFo 9/17/2011 9:57am
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mohammed wrote:
Americans like fast tracks , this track wont be good for there style.
Thanks God the track doesn't favor the Americans! They went 1-1-1 on qual! lol
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Don't be Surprised.

LMAO
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SlowMoFo 9/17/2011 10:02am
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500guy wrote:
Don't be Surprised.

LMAO
I know, same story every year!

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