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Highsider, I was at a few of those, I think they are right!

1975: Baldwin, Kansas for bikes

1976: Carlsbad for bikes (my old friend Ferrell McCollough from Maryland won the 125 class)

1977: Lake Sugar Tree for bikes, High Point Raceway for Youth

1978: Road Atlanta for bikes, Baja Acres in Michigan for Youth.

1979: Plymouth, CA for bikes, Otter Creek, Iowa for Youth

1980: Millville for bikes (won by the Hinkle brothers, Kreg Bigelow won the 125) and Brownsville, PA for Youth

1981: Red Bud, MI, for bikes, Rolling Hills, NC for Youth

1982 and on, Loretta Lynn's

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Not sure what that means, Sondra, but here's Doug Henry's results from 1990 at Loretta Lynn's: 125 A Mod: 5-19-4 for seventh overall behind, in order...
Not sure what that means, Sondra, but here's Doug Henry's results from 1990 at Loretta Lynn's:

125 A Mod: 5-19-4 for seventh overall behind, in order, Ryan Hughes, Mike Brown, Steve Herman, Phil Lawrence, Jeremy McGrath and Jeff Curry.

250 A Mod: 6-9-6 for fifth overall behind Hughes, Phil Lawrence, McGrath and Ray Crumb.

Anyone you guys are looking for, I have every moto, every finisher, every exaggerator!

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It means I thought it was a good legitimate post/question, makes ya think back to how many people have raced or not LL's, then to find...
It means I thought it was a good legitimate post/question, makes ya think back to how many people have raced or not LL's, then to find out that most did.

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Funny how the fast guys get noticed, helped out, and make it to the races regardless of how "well off" the family is.
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Highsider, I was at a few of those, I think they are right! 1975: Baldwin, Kansas for bikes 1976: Carlsbad for bikes (my old friend Ferrell...
Highsider, I was at a few of those, I think they are right!

1975: Baldwin, Kansas for bikes

1976: Carlsbad for bikes (my old friend Ferrell McCollough from Maryland won the 125 class)

1977: Lake Sugar Tree for bikes, High Point Raceway for Youth

1978: Road Atlanta for bikes, Baja Acres in Michigan for Youth.

1979: Plymouth, CA for bikes, Otter Creek, Iowa for Youth

1980: Millville for bikes (won by the Hinkle brothers, Kreg Bigelow won the 125) and Brownsville, PA for Youth

1981: Red Bud, MI, for bikes, Rolling Hills, NC for Youth

1982 and on, Loretta Lynn's

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Thanks for 'fixing' the years back into my memory.

1977: I was at Lake Sugar Tree helping Ben Decker in the Open A/500 Class

1980 Millville helping Jimmy White 250A class (and other riders)

1981 Redbud helping Willis VanZee 500A class, Steve Downey 250A class
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DC wrote:
Not sure what that means, Sondra, but here's Doug Henry's results from 1990 at Loretta Lynn's: 125 A Mod: 5-19-4 for seventh overall behind, in order...
Not sure what that means, Sondra, but here's Doug Henry's results from 1990 at Loretta Lynn's:

125 A Mod: 5-19-4 for seventh overall behind, in order, Ryan Hughes, Mike Brown, Steve Herman, Phil Lawrence, Jeremy McGrath and Jeff Curry.

250 A Mod: 6-9-6 for fifth overall behind Hughes, Phil Lawrence, McGrath and Ray Crumb.

Anyone you guys are looking for, I have every moto, every finisher, every exaggerator!

DC
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It means I thought it was a good legitimate post/question, makes ya think back to how many people have raced or not LL's, then to find...
It means I thought it was a good legitimate post/question, makes ya think back to how many people have raced or not LL's, then to find out that most did.

S
Sherwood wrote:
Funny how the fast guys get noticed, helped out, and make it to the races regardless of how "well off" the family is.
It doesn't matter how much money your family has in moto, usually the kids with money don't make it big, it's the kids who don't get things handed to them that succeed !

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That may have been '92 and up, let me look again MX Mat, I did not see him first time through.... But in 1987 Jeremy McGrath...
That may have been '92 and up, let me look again MX Mat, I did not see him first time through....

But in 1987 Jeremy McGrath went 1-1-2 in the 125 C Novice class for the title. I just realized he got beat in his last moto by someone I have never heard of.... Does anyone here want to venture a guess to that all-time trivia question: Who beat Jeremy McGrath in the last moto of the '87 Loretta Lynn's race?

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Robbie Neeley beat MC that year, but it was in the slow race. Robbie say`s he got tired of sitting still after passing MC`s time and went on. Only to have the rider behind him go longer than Robbie and win.
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Wet Paint, it wasn't McGrath that Neeley waited and passed, it was Tony DiStefano in the Vet class! Neeley had some amazing rides down there, and he and Tony D. crashed across the finish line together, but Robbie still won.

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MXMat, your old friend who passed on, Jon Rightmire, from Groton, NY, raced 125 B Mod in 1992, the same year that Ping won that class. Jon went 4-15-20 in his three motos and finished 14th overall.

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Maybe Ricky Dietrich? Haven't seen anyone mention him
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Tucker is from Minnesota, eh?

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Ddavis wrote:
Ever racing an amateur national. (Lake Whitney, Oak hill/Mosier Valley, World Mini, Ponca, LL, Mini Os) I'm not saying "Win" an amateur national, I'm talking about...
Ever racing an amateur national. (Lake Whitney, Oak hill/Mosier Valley, World Mini, Ponca, LL, Mini Os)

I'm not saying "Win" an amateur national, I'm talking about racing an am national.
Go away idiot.

I raced LL and Ponca, along with Mini Os and Vegas in the late 80s and all through the 90s till 2001, and then back again in 2009 in the +25 class. believe me, it was just as hyped. Just because there was no internet to cover it doesnt mean it wasnt as big of a deal. we started getting ready for LL after gainesville just like everyone does now. ask anyone who has ever raced it any year how big of a deal it was.

dont question something you know nothing about. i was racing 125b there the year you were born.
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Ddavis wrote:
Ever racing an amateur national. (Lake Whitney, Oak hill/Mosier Valley, World Mini, Ponca, LL, Mini Os) I'm not saying "Win" an amateur national, I'm talking about...
Ever racing an amateur national. (Lake Whitney, Oak hill/Mosier Valley, World Mini, Ponca, LL, Mini Os)

I'm not saying "Win" an amateur national, I'm talking about racing an am national.
Most of the So Cal riders Ron Lechien, Larry Brooks, Scott Burnsworth, Eric Kehoe, Mike Healey, back then I don't remember any of us going to those races. But we did have other big World Mini amateur races at Saddleback, Escape Country, Barona Oaks, Indian Dunes, And Elsinore. They included what was the Yamaha Race of Champions back in So Cal.
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7/19/2011 6:41pm
of all the threads Ddavis has started this actually turned out pretty good except for the asholes trying to feel good about themselves by bashing him.
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500guy wrote:
of all the threads Ddavis has started this actually turned out pretty good except for the asholes trying to feel good about themselves by bashing him.
It's his douchebag attitude. I said John Dowd as a possibility and he answers in all caps (i can just imagine a whiny ass teenager voice here...) that he wants something different because apparently 80s and 90s amateur motocross is irrelevent... LOL.

All I replied with was "Don't yell Kid" because I knew others would tear him apart...
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7/19/2011 6:50pm Edited Date/Time 7/19/2011 6:51pm
Btw, didn't see anyone say much about Dowdy after I put his name out there. What did his amateur career consist of? Im quite curious.
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500guy wrote:
of all the threads Ddavis has started this actually turned out pretty good except for the asholes trying to feel good about themselves by bashing him.
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It's his douchebag attitude. I said John Dowd as a possibility and he answers in all caps (i can just imagine a whiny ass teenager voice...
It's his douchebag attitude. I said John Dowd as a possibility and he answers in all caps (i can just imagine a whiny ass teenager voice here...) that he wants something different because apparently 80s and 90s amateur motocross is irrelevent... LOL.

All I replied with was "Don't yell Kid" because I knew others would tear him apart...
Yep I didn't see where you said anything bad some of the others get a little rough. And yes the boy is all Kid

I have no idea on who did or didn't race LL's for me that race might as well of been in China, no way I would have ever had the time to get there.
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No they did not........
mrquick wrote:
I've watched all three of these riders race at L.L. Alessi was nothing but ba at the ranch....watched bubba ride a pw 50 there.
You must have confused them with people that just had their same number. My research shows they werent ever there
Dude...i live two hours from the ranch...i've been going since 1985....i know the difference from real riders and someone running their numbers...trust me on this one...Mike Alessi eleven times LL champion....bubba Stewart eleven time ll champion....travis Pastrana five time LL champion.....now give it up and trust me...i've been there.
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mrquick wrote:
I've watched all three of these riders race at L.L. Alessi was nothing but ba at the ranch....watched bubba ride a pw 50 there.
You must have confused them with people that just had their same number. My research shows they werent ever there
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Dude...i live two hours from the ranch...i've been going since 1985....i know the difference from real riders and someone running their numbers...trust me on this one...Mike...
Dude...i live two hours from the ranch...i've been going since 1985....i know the difference from real riders and someone running their numbers...trust me on this one...Mike Alessi eleven times LL champion....bubba Stewart eleven time ll champion....travis Pastrana five time LL champion.....now give it up and trust me...i've been there.
You must not have noticed the sarcasm font he was using in his original reply. It happens to all of us, dont worry.
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Johnny O'Mara, Donny Hansen
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Rick Melon!
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Dusty Klatt is one.
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Ron Lechien was the man in 82. It was a cool race then and still is. Paul Dennis and Danny Storbeck battling in the 80's class. Ron Lechien won the 100 class. That year there were many guys from my hometown (St. Louis) that went to the ranch. Mark Barr riding a KTM in the 125 class. Lance Dudley on a Suzuki in the Open class. Billy Fosnock and Mark Tripp in the 80's. Good times. I didnt go back until 2001 and saw Bubba race his last races as an amateur. I remember thinking that the place looked exactly the same even after 19 years.

To answer the OP's original question, yes there have been many guys that didnt ride at any of the big amateur nationals, but not many since around 82 that were not from out of the country. Its just too cool a race to miss if your good enough to make it. DDavis seems to be a good rider, have you tried to qualify?
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MXMat, your old friend who passed on, Jon Rightmire, from Groton, NY, raced 125 B Mod in 1992, the same year that Ping won that class...
MXMat, your old friend who passed on, Jon Rightmire, from Groton, NY, raced 125 B Mod in 1992, the same year that Ping won that class. Jon went 4-15-20 in his three motos and finished 14th overall.

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DC, thanks for taking the time to look that up, it's appreciated! I talked to his father last weekend and he was talking about how hard it was for Jon to put in 3 solid moto's down there, something always seemed to happen. He couldn't remember his moto scores but knew he had one solid race and thought that Pingree was in the class. I'm going to print this out for him. Thanks again!
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You must have confused them with people that just had their same number. My research shows they werent ever there
mrquick wrote:
Dude...i live two hours from the ranch...i've been going since 1985....i know the difference from real riders and someone running their numbers...trust me on this one...Mike...
Dude...i live two hours from the ranch...i've been going since 1985....i know the difference from real riders and someone running their numbers...trust me on this one...Mike Alessi eleven times LL champion....bubba Stewart eleven time ll champion....travis Pastrana five time LL champion.....now give it up and trust me...i've been there.
haydos25 wrote:
You must not have noticed the sarcasm font he was using in his original reply. It happens to all of us, dont worry.
Wink
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SoCalMX70 wrote:
Btw, didn't see anyone say much about Dowdy after I put his name out there. What did his amateur career consist of? Im quite curious.
From what I remember he started racing NESC in new england when he was like 21 or something and did local racing for several years out here.
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Mat, shoot me an email and I will send the hi-res of this results sheet....

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mrquick wrote:
Dude...i live two hours from the ranch...i've been going since 1985....i know the difference from real riders and someone running their numbers...trust me on this one...Mike...
Dude...i live two hours from the ranch...i've been going since 1985....i know the difference from real riders and someone running their numbers...trust me on this one...Mike Alessi eleven times LL champion....bubba Stewart eleven time ll champion....travis Pastrana five time LL champion.....now give it up and trust me...i've been there.
haydos25 wrote:
You must not have noticed the sarcasm font he was using in his original reply. It happens to all of us, dont worry.
Wink
Fail.......no cigar.
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mrquick wrote:
Dude...i live two hours from the ranch...i've been going since 1985....i know the difference from real riders and someone running their numbers...trust me on this one...Mike...
Dude...i live two hours from the ranch...i've been going since 1985....i know the difference from real riders and someone running their numbers...trust me on this one...Mike Alessi eleven times LL champion....bubba Stewart eleven time ll champion....travis Pastrana five time LL champion.....now give it up and trust me...i've been there.
Not a very apt user name...
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Ddavis wrote:
Ever racing an amateur national. (Lake Whitney, Oak hill/Mosier Valley, World Mini, Ponca, LL, Mini Os) I'm not saying "Win" an amateur national, I'm talking about...
Ever racing an amateur national. (Lake Whitney, Oak hill/Mosier Valley, World Mini, Ponca, LL, Mini Os)

I'm not saying "Win" an amateur national, I'm talking about racing an am national.
Lot of foreigners didn't. I didn't... ;-)
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mrquick wrote:
Dude...i live two hours from the ranch...i've been going since 1985....i know the difference from real riders and someone running their numbers...trust me on this one...Mike...
Dude...i live two hours from the ranch...i've been going since 1985....i know the difference from real riders and someone running their numbers...trust me on this one...Mike Alessi eleven times LL champion....bubba Stewart eleven time ll champion....travis Pastrana five time LL champion.....now give it up and trust me...i've been there.
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Not a very apt user name...
its a moniker my friends gave me back during my drag racing days.....cut way too many perfect lights.

sorry you dont like it...its a part of me now and always will be.

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