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Sherwood 7/14/2011 8:29pm
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The guy talked up the Yamaha the same way...
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GIwasB4 7/14/2011 8:35pm
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Sondy132001 wrote:
This is pure make believe: Let's say you make a million dollars from your team to race mx & sx, now you get a new team...
This is pure make believe: Let's say you make a million dollars from your team to race mx & sx, now you get a new team and they offer you 2 million to ride sx only...what would you do ? Just asking what you would do nothing more....

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I'd sign the SX deal and race MX for free, for the fans, for the love of it, for the competition, for the sponsor's and because Myersdork would do it. He is core motocross.
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BobbyM 7/14/2011 8:48pm
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Sondy132001 wrote:
This is pure make believe: Let's say you make a million dollars from your team to race mx & sx, now you get a new team...
This is pure make believe: Let's say you make a million dollars from your team to race mx & sx, now you get a new team and they offer you 2 million to ride sx only...what would you do ? Just asking what you would do nothing more....

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GIwasB4 wrote:
I'd sign the SX deal and race MX for free, for the fans, for the love of it, for the competition, for the sponsor's and because...
I'd sign the SX deal and race MX for free, for the fans, for the love of it, for the competition, for the sponsor's and because Myersdork would do it. He is core motocross.
thx geo
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Honda and team brooks will be an obvious choice and should kick ass...will kick ass.
Absolutely……Brooks and Honda will equal a championship………HOSS hasn’t figured it out yet!

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txmxer 7/14/2011 8:52pm
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Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell.

Hopefully, the top guys will do a better job of seeing the big picture based on past performance than Chad and James did.
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WhipMeister 7/14/2011 9:00pm
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Boobster nailed it. The differentiator is confidence between the top riders. The difference there comes from how you feel about the bitch between your legs...Wink
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BobbyM 7/14/2011 9:18pm
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Sherwood wrote:
The guy talked up the Yamaha the same way...
SHERWOOD...or whatever yer chickenshit embarrassing real name is, why do hate you brooks?
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CLOS 157 7/14/2011 9:37pm
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Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell. Hopefully, the top guys will do a...
Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell.

Hopefully, the top guys will do a better job of seeing the big picture based on past performance than Chad and James did.
Really? You are right LB makes them race only SX...Kook!
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Sherwood wrote:
The guy talked up the Yamaha the same way...
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SHERWOOD...or whatever yer chickenshit embarrassing real name is, why do hate you brooks?
I've met him a good amount of times one being right after Reed was no longer with the team and IN MY OPINION he was nothing more than a used car salesman. He'll tell you how great a rider is and how the riders like family and really sell you that his rider is the best thing ever to come to the sport. As soon as that riders gone all he wants to do is take jabs and beat the rider and beat him down. I feel the mans a bit two sided. It's only my opinion of him before everyone decides to tell me how "core" he is. Not everyone gets along with everyone on a personal level. That's not to say I don't respect his accomplishments as a team manager.
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Hank_Thrill 7/14/2011 10:41pm
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He's spot on. Reed's suspension in my opinion is so amazing to watch. Go watch the first round going through those braking bumps, his front wheel is sticking to the ground like downhill mountain bike suspension, where you could see Villopoto's forks packing a bit, visible by the space you see between his wheel and the ground going through those bumps.

Kudos to Reed and the suspension guys at Honda.
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txmxer 7/14/2011 11:06pm
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txmxer wrote:
Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell. Hopefully, the top guys will do a...
Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell.

Hopefully, the top guys will do a better job of seeing the big picture based on past performance than Chad and James did.
CLOS 157 wrote:
Really? You are right LB makes them race only SX...Kook!
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes.

Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have had to rebuild their careers after they worked with you. You can blame them or you can fix your program, or you can post stupid shit on the interweb. Your call.
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burnside 7/15/2011 12:02am
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I think it's been pretty obvious that the bike Chad is riding is the best bike out there. You really think Chad just found a mental...
I think it's been pretty obvious that the bike Chad is riding is the best bike out there. You really think Chad just found a mental 'switch' and found more speed this summer? Really? He suddenly got much faster outdoors?

It's the bike, hands down. I agree with Brooks completely, I'm honestly surprised if some of you guys literally don't see it. Chad's riding the best bike out there and he knows it.
Reed's confidence came on strong riding a Pro Circuit backed bike with little or no factory support . . the reason he has all these bad ass parts is because he was killing it already.
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HighCam 7/15/2011 1:09am
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txmxer wrote:
Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell. Hopefully, the top guys will do a...
Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell.

Hopefully, the top guys will do a better job of seeing the big picture based on past performance than Chad and James did.
CLOS 157 wrote:
Really? You are right LB makes them race only SX...Kook!
txmxer wrote:
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes. Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have...
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes.

Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have had to rebuild their careers after they worked with you. You can blame them or you can fix your program, or you can post stupid shit on the interweb. Your call.
txmxer, I think we figured out that CLOS 157 is not Brooks. There was a thread a few months ago that that guy jumped in and we all thought it was Brooks, but it came to be that it wasn't him. Too bad, he could have answered some of these questions.

By the way, who are the 2 "legends" that had to rebuild their careers? If it's Reed and Stewart, then your way off. The Reed story is played out and from what has been told they both sound like they were hardheaded through negotiations and as for Stewart, that moron screwed himself by forcing Brooks out.
But I want to hear it from you. Who are the 2 "legends"?
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txmxer wrote:
Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell. Hopefully, the top guys will do a...
Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell.

Hopefully, the top guys will do a better job of seeing the big picture based on past performance than Chad and James did.
CLOS 157 wrote:
Really? You are right LB makes them race only SX...Kook!
txmxer wrote:
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes. Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have...
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes.

Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have had to rebuild their careers after they worked with you. You can blame them or you can fix your program, or you can post stupid shit on the interweb. Your call.
What about MA & MC? I don't think Larry caused them long term damage...
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And I feel the need to ask again - what championship contender will they hire? Does anybody really think Larry will scoop KTM/Roger Decoster, and Joe Gibbs? Think we can safely rule out JS & CR, that would leave RD, RV & maybe TC.
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Fearo 7/15/2011 5:21am
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Anyone thinking that those comments by Brooks aren't insanely retarded, is freaking delusional. That guy has said so many dumb things over the years it's hard to keep up.

"K-dub is doing better than he should be doing".

Right on. Class act, brah.
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lucero10x 7/15/2011 8:44am
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txmxer wrote:
Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell. Hopefully, the top guys will do a...
Who's the next rider and team that Brooks short term thinking is going to be dismantle? Time will tell.

Hopefully, the top guys will do a better job of seeing the big picture based on past performance than Chad and James did.
CLOS 157 wrote:
Really? You are right LB makes them race only SX...Kook!
txmxer wrote:
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes. Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have...
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes.

Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have had to rebuild their careers after they worked with you. You can blame them or you can fix your program, or you can post stupid shit on the interweb. Your call.
please name the first and the second.

The way I see it Jeremy rebuilt his career with Larry. Chad was at his first peak with Larry. James imploded after firing Larry. Alessi came closer than ever to championship with Larry.

And as far as "long term"? Most Motocross careers can't even be measured in "long term".

I am still not giving an inch on the SLC incident, though.
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CLOS 157 wrote:
Really? You are right LB makes them race only SX...Kook!
txmxer wrote:
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes. Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have...
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes.

Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have had to rebuild their careers after they worked with you. You can blame them or you can fix your program, or you can post stupid shit on the interweb. Your call.
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txmxer, I think we figured out that CLOS 157 is not Brooks. There was a thread a few months ago that that guy jumped in and...
txmxer, I think we figured out that CLOS 157 is not Brooks. There was a thread a few months ago that that guy jumped in and we all thought it was Brooks, but it came to be that it wasn't him. Too bad, he could have answered some of these questions.

By the way, who are the 2 "legends" that had to rebuild their careers? If it's Reed and Stewart, then your way off. The Reed story is played out and from what has been told they both sound like they were hardheaded through negotiations and as for Stewart, that moron screwed himself by forcing Brooks out.
But I want to hear it from you. Who are the 2 "legends"?
I'm with you on this, I'd like to know the 2 legends that have/had to rebuild their careers...

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txmxer 7/15/2011 9:22am
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You people crack me up.

If Larry had nothing to do with James undoing...what did he have to do with him winning a championship? Same for Chad. You can't credit him with the good if you don't see a relationship to the bad.

It's the program. MC had pretty much peaked and with the part time schedule he could hold the peak...different kind of rider, different mentality, different era. James and Chad still had mountains to climb, yet they were led down the path of doing half the work and getting all the gold. It didn't work out.
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lucero10x 7/15/2011 9:26am
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txmxer wrote:
You people crack me up. If Larry had nothing to do with James undoing...what did he have to do with him winning a championship? Same for...
You people crack me up.

If Larry had nothing to do with James undoing...what did he have to do with him winning a championship? Same for Chad. You can't credit him with the good if you don't see a relationship to the bad.

It's the program. MC had pretty much peaked and with the part time schedule he could hold the peak...different kind of rider, different mentality, different era. James and Chad still had mountains to climb, yet they were led down the path of doing half the work and getting all the gold. It didn't work out.
We crack you up? haha. Been hot there in Texas lately, huh?
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Ahhh,tx,whatever he does will be top tier.
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CLOS 157 wrote:
Really? You are right LB makes them race only SX...Kook!
txmxer wrote:
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes. Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have...
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes.

Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have had to rebuild their careers after they worked with you. You can blame them or you can fix your program, or you can post stupid shit on the interweb. Your call.
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please name the first and the second. The way I see it Jeremy rebuilt his career with Larry. Chad was at his first peak with Larry...
please name the first and the second.

The way I see it Jeremy rebuilt his career with Larry. Chad was at his first peak with Larry. James imploded after firing Larry. Alessi came closer than ever to championship with Larry.

And as far as "long term"? Most Motocross careers can't even be measured in "long term".

I am still not giving an inch on the SLC incident, though.
Not so much careers, but you can't deny public relations and reputations needed rebuilding. Something about that team seems to sap all of the fun out of racing, and it is reflected in the riders' attitudes. Reed and Stewart both reached all time lows in popularity under the L&M umbrella. Reed got out, and has completely restored his popularity with the fans. Hopefully Stewart does the same. They are both better riders when they are smiling.
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BobbyM 7/15/2011 10:58am
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If i was racng i would love to work for larry or roger or mitch and maybe a few...very few others. He is one of the best and will put his own money where his mouth is.
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englishman 7/15/2011 11:01am
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If i was racng i would love to work for larry or roger or mitch and maybe a few...very few others. He is one of the...
If i was racng i would love to work for larry or roger or mitch and maybe a few...very few others. He is one of the best and will put his own money where his mouth is.
Jan De Groot was right there with them - guy was a genius.
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CLOS 157 wrote:
Really? You are right LB makes them race only SX...Kook!
txmxer wrote:
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes. Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have...
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes.

Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have had to rebuild their careers after they worked with you. You can blame them or you can fix your program, or you can post stupid shit on the interweb. Your call.
lucero10x wrote:
please name the first and the second. The way I see it Jeremy rebuilt his career with Larry. Chad was at his first peak with Larry...
please name the first and the second.

The way I see it Jeremy rebuilt his career with Larry. Chad was at his first peak with Larry. James imploded after firing Larry. Alessi came closer than ever to championship with Larry.

And as far as "long term"? Most Motocross careers can't even be measured in "long term".

I am still not giving an inch on the SLC incident, though.
Actually Alessi came closest to a championship while Casey Lytle was the team manager...that was the year Langston won.
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BobbyM 7/15/2011 12:44pm
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txmxer wrote:
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes. Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have...
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes.

Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have had to rebuild their careers after they worked with you. You can blame them or you can fix your program, or you can post stupid shit on the interweb. Your call.
lucero10x wrote:
please name the first and the second. The way I see it Jeremy rebuilt his career with Larry. Chad was at his first peak with Larry...
please name the first and the second.

The way I see it Jeremy rebuilt his career with Larry. Chad was at his first peak with Larry. James imploded after firing Larry. Alessi came closer than ever to championship with Larry.

And as far as "long term"? Most Motocross careers can't even be measured in "long term".

I am still not giving an inch on the SLC incident, though.
bearded clam wrote:
Actually Alessi came closest to a championship while Casey Lytle was the team manager...that was the year Langston won.
A mans title...not a boys title we're talking here.
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No. The factory Honda is a great bike? What is this world coming to?
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txmxer wrote:
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes. Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have...
Thanks Larry. It's not a personal comment, it's an observation of outcomes.

Whatever you are doing isn't working in the long term. Two " legends" have had to rebuild their careers after they worked with you. You can blame them or you can fix your program, or you can post stupid shit on the interweb. Your call.
lucero10x wrote:
please name the first and the second. The way I see it Jeremy rebuilt his career with Larry. Chad was at his first peak with Larry...
please name the first and the second.

The way I see it Jeremy rebuilt his career with Larry. Chad was at his first peak with Larry. James imploded after firing Larry. Alessi came closer than ever to championship with Larry.

And as far as "long term"? Most Motocross careers can't even be measured in "long term".

I am still not giving an inch on the SLC incident, though.
bearded clam wrote:
Actually Alessi came closest to a championship while Casey Lytle was the team manager...that was the year Langston won.
Alessi did do well with Casey Lytle, but in 2005 Alessi came with in a few points of the Championship going into the final moto at Glen Helen, before his brain exploded and he T-boned Tedesco (the kill button incident). And this was the closest that Alessi ever got to a Championship.
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Rewindcaz wrote:
I think it's been pretty obvious that the bike Chad is riding is the best bike out there. You really think Chad just found a mental...
I think it's been pretty obvious that the bike Chad is riding is the best bike out there. You really think Chad just found a mental 'switch' and found more speed this summer? Really? He suddenly got much faster outdoors?

It's the bike, hands down. I agree with Brooks completely, I'm honestly surprised if some of you guys literally don't see it. Chad's riding the best bike out there and he knows it.
i think that mental switch is the fact he is riding for himself and its his cash on the line,he is not leaving anything in the tank,where if he was riding for a team and was 3 seconds down at the last few mins he might settle for 2nd now he is still pushing for the win.Honda have also stepped it up this year not only in the ama but in the gp's too there seems to be more investment from the factory and it shows . Honda are pushing to be the best again and its good to see instead of having ok riders they are digging deap and paying for the top riders in moto gp.Same in the ama they have TC who would have been a force at the front this year if it wasn't for the injury.
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kiwifan 7/15/2011 2:17pm
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I agree it seems Honda is stepping up

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