Dungey Pushing the Bike

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RaceFace 5/29/2011 9:51am
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skidsteer16 wrote:
Class act.

and yeah, Goose was right next to him...I'm sure Ryan said "no, I got it"...wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Yeah, I gotta say that Goose certainly must have offered to push it and been declined. How many times have we seen the rider dump it on its side or lean it against a post and not even wait for the mechanic to show up? I think that this showed the relationship Dungey and Goose have as well.
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RaceFace 5/29/2011 9:58am
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Guys, not taking anything from dungey's character, but he pushed his bike solely in the hope that he could push it across the finish to get...
Guys, not taking anything from dungey's character, but he pushed his bike solely in the hope that he could push it across the finish to get maybe a point.

If you watch the broadcast, you can see goose walking and talking with the Ama's Jeff Canfield who I am sure was letting them know the rules and approximate finish.

He was credited with 25th, at the time of pushing there was an outside shot he could have got 20h.

With all due respect, the "goose, you watch me push and don't even touch my bike" attitude you think Dungey has is a little off of reality.
Interesting take, but that would have been one hell of a long push. Also interesting is that when the cameras caught him pushing it, he was on an access road not the track. I doubt you get much credit as far as points for pushing the bike across the line after using access roads to get there. It would have been one hell of a task pushing it through that sand and up and down those jumps. But no doubt Goose didn't touch it when he got there in hopes of being able to see something Dungey could do to get it going himself.
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CR250Rider 5/29/2011 10:00am
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RD use the circumstances as a training opportunity?

I'd have taken my helmet off at least !
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bigborefan 5/29/2011 10:17am
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I think it makes a statement, pushing his bike. It says, I am no prima donna, no hot head. It also says, I just did 30 mins, and can still push the bike back. Or maybe he was mad as hell and just pushed it back without thinking.

I know I felt bad for him. I can see where he might not win some fans over, but I cannot see any reason to hate on the kid. He doesn't seem to be cocky or arrogant. He is a hell of a rider, great riding style. Remember, these guys are young, it takes a while to learn the PR skills. It took RC a while to win the fans over.

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BUTCH 5/29/2011 11:24am
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Didn't read any post here. Another example showing what kind of young man Dungey is! Small moments like that can really show what's inside of a person. Class!Cool
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CR250Rider wrote:
RD use the circumstances as a training opportunity?

I'd have taken my helmet off at least !
Pourcel needs the fitness, he should have pushed it!
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TerryB 5/29/2011 12:11pm
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BUTCH wrote:
Didn't read any post here. Another example showing what kind of young man Dungey is! Small moments like that can really show what's inside of a...
Didn't read any post here. Another example showing what kind of young man Dungey is! Small moments like that can really show what's inside of a person. Class!Cool
Right on Butch. I bag on Ryan for his interview skills (or lack thereof), but it's all in fun. Ryan is not a quitter, never has been, I'd expect nothing less from him.

Class. Respect.
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pretty sure he was trying to get it back to the mech area, nobody can touch his bike other than the mech area or they are dq'd for outside assistance, he was lapping up till the high teens if they coulda got it fired and completed a lap coulda maybe got a point or two but it was too late. again i dont know the whole rule book but just my two cents
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Dmoks 5/30/2011 7:59am
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And I come on the message board and read what you guys have to say? You don't even know the rules and many people talk like...
And I come on the message board and read what you guys have to say? You don't even know the rules and many people talk like they are so knowledgeable about the sport.

Dungey was pushing his bike because when his bike quit it was close to end of the race and he was going to push the bike across the finish line to score maximum points. If his mechanic or anyone else would have touched the Motorcycle, he would have been disqualified for outside assistance. Mechanics are only allowed to touch the Motorcycle in the designated mechanics area and if anyone touches the Motorcycle (other than the rider) after the start of the race and before the checked flag, the AMA would have to disqualify they for outside assistance.

If you look at the video of the race when Goose walked up to the bike, he never touched the Motorcycle. He bent down and looked to see if he could see a something wrong and perhaps see an easy fix, but what ever it was, it was more than he could see. I hear that the Motorcycle ran out of gas and if that was the case, Goose would not even be allowed to hand Ryan fuel to put in it outside of the mechanics area.

So actually, Goose is very smart and knows the rules. Goose has more DNF's this year than his whole career as a Mechanic. STRANGE YEAR FOR DUNGEY and SUZUKI!!!!!!!!
I was waiting for someone to speak up about the rules. I figured that is why he was pushing it himself.
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motokid40 5/30/2011 8:43am
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Faceaz wrote:
Very Cool... But really, can't Suzuki get someone else to push the damn thing. Hot, humid, after 30 minutes of racing & kicking the shit out...
Very Cool... But really, can't Suzuki get someone else to push the damn thing. Hot, humid, after 30 minutes of racing & kicking the shit out of it, they should have someone else push the bike back. I know Goose is a great mech & a bit older, but at least he could help Dungey push it up the hill instead of chatting up a course worker.
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That wasn't just a course worker, that was Jeff Canfield who I am sure was instructing the Dunge on the possibility of possibly scoring a single...
That wasn't just a course worker, that was Jeff Canfield who I am sure was instructing the Dunge on the possibility of possibly scoring a single point,

NO WAY goose or anyone would walk that close and not lay a hand on the bike to help push
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This!
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ns503 5/30/2011 8:57am
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So how could he score points by pushing his bike along that trail/access road? Is there a second finish line along there we don't know about?
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kongols 5/30/2011 9:01am
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Faceaz wrote:
Very Cool... But really, can't Suzuki get someone else to push the damn thing. Hot, humid, after 30 minutes of racing & kicking the shit out...
Very Cool... But really, can't Suzuki get someone else to push the damn thing. Hot, humid, after 30 minutes of racing & kicking the shit out of it, they should have someone else push the bike back. I know Goose is a great mech & a bit older, but at least he could help Dungey push it up the hill instead of chatting up a course worker.
Regis wrote:
That wasn't just a course worker, that was Jeff Canfield who I am sure was instructing the Dunge on the possibility of possibly scoring a single...
That wasn't just a course worker, that was Jeff Canfield who I am sure was instructing the Dunge on the possibility of possibly scoring a single point,

NO WAY goose or anyone would walk that close and not lay a hand on the bike to help push
motokid40 wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This!
This is bullshit. It`s not like he was pushing his bike ON a track. He was long gone from the track and wouldn`t be awarded any points whatsoever.That was pure respect to his only friend on a track. You can call it camaraderie if you want.
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mccread 5/30/2011 9:04am
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Dungey is a class act, win or lose. That second moto demonstrated it yet again.
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JCRF217 5/30/2011 9:04am
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I guess i don't see what the big deal is of who pushed the bike back. I didn't think it was that serious of an issue, but i guess to some it is.
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ns503 5/30/2011 9:19am
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I don't think it's a big deal either - he wanted to push it, so let him. Pretty sure Goose wouldn't tell him to push his own damned bike.

But I also think the pushing for points angle some are pushing is out to lunch...
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observer 5/30/2011 9:22am
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disbanded wrote:
Goose is lazy
Go loop your POS bike out squid...
Dirt_Dawg 5/30/2011 9:30am
5/30/2011 9:30am
reded wrote:
This is quite possibly the dumbest thread I've ever read on any forum. Who honestly gives a shit if he pushed his own bike?
You do have the option of not clicking on it...just saying.
Dirt_Dawg 5/30/2011 9:33am
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disbanded wrote:
Goose is lazy
observer wrote:
Go loop your POS bike out squid...
Goose is a old man would be hard for him to push the bike uphill. Dunge probably said to him i got it.

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observer 5/30/2011 9:58am
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HighCam wrote:
And I come on the message board and read what you guys have to say? You don't even know the rules and many people talk like...
And I come on the message board and read what you guys have to say? You don't even know the rules and many people talk like they are so knowledgeable about the sport.

Dungey was pushing his bike because when his bike quit it was close to end of the race and he was going to push the bike across the finish line to score maximum points. If his mechanic or anyone else would have touched the Motorcycle, he would have been disqualified for outside assistance. Mechanics are only allowed to touch the Motorcycle in the designated mechanics area and if anyone touches the Motorcycle (other than the rider) after the start of the race and before the checked flag, the AMA would have to disqualify they for outside assistance.

If you look at the video of the race when Goose walked up to the bike, he never touched the Motorcycle. He bent down and looked to see if he could see a something wrong and perhaps see an easy fix, but what ever it was, it was more than he could see. I hear that the Motorcycle ran out of gas and if that was the case, Goose would not even be allowed to hand Ryan fuel to put in it outside of the mechanics area.

So actually, Goose is very smart and knows the rules. Goose has more DNF's this year than his whole career as a Mechanic. STRANGE YEAR FOR DUNGEY and SUZUKI!!!!!!!!
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I was waiting for someone to speak up about the rules. I figured that is why he was pushing it himself.
Highcam is right on the rules...but wrong on this issue.
Ryan was done for the moto, and he knew it. He wasn't near the track while pushing his bike back to the Suzuki pits.
He was headed back to the transport-not the finish line. I get what your trying to say, but it's "n/a" in this situation.

Again...how many times have you seen "other riders" push there bikes all the way back to the transport??
That's Ryan Dungey for you. All I gotta say is...Suzuki better get a line of credit or something to resign Ryan, cause he's going to be a hot commodity when his contract is up. He's a corporate dream from the marketing perspective/return on investment.
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Sparkalounger 5/30/2011 10:04am
5/30/2011 10:04am Edited Date/Time 5/30/2011 10:05am
From racerxonline:

http://www.racerxonline.com/2011/05/30/450-words-freestone

"And then there was Rockstar/Makita Suzuki's Ryan Dungey. With the win in hand at the rutted-up Freestone National track in Wortham, Texas, the defending Lucas Oil AMA Pro 450 Motocross Champion saw his fuel overheat and boil enough to stop his motorcycle within a lap and a half of the second-moto win. It was painful to watch on Speed as Dungey kicked and kicked at the bike, then pushed it home—his frustrated mechanic Mike Gosselaar hesitant to help push because he wasn't sure if that would mean a compete DQ for outside assistance. (It wasn't until the AMA confirmed that he was outside the top twenty, and thus the points, that Goose was told to go ahead and help, which he did.)"

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"Coincidentally, after Dungey's Suzuki teammate Brett Metcalfe reached the podium in the second moto after holding off a fierce attack from Valli Motorsports Yamaha rider Ricky Dietrich, his bike was sent to the impound area next to the AMA semi, but while it was being ridden from the podium to impound, it ran out of gas after going just a couple hundred feet! Was it a Suzuki problem? Was it a heat problem? Was it just a fuel-robbing track?"
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BobbyM 5/30/2011 11:16am
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Faceaz wrote:
Very Cool... But really, can't Suzuki get someone else to push the damn thing. Hot, humid, after 30 minutes of racing & kicking the shit out...
Very Cool... But really, can't Suzuki get someone else to push the damn thing. Hot, humid, after 30 minutes of racing & kicking the shit out of it, they should have someone else push the bike back. I know Goose is a great mech & a bit older, but at least he could help Dungey push it up the hill instead of chatting up a course worker.
james stewart wouldn't push his own...well you know
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BobbyM 5/30/2011 11:18am
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Sparkalounger wrote:
From racerxonline: [url=http://www.racerxonline.com/2011/05/30/450-words-freestone]http://www.racerxonline.com/2011/05/30/450-words-freestone[/url] "And then there was Rockstar/Makita Suzuki's Ryan Dungey. With the win in hand at the rutted-up Freestone National track in Wortham, Texas, the...
From racerxonline:

http://www.racerxonline.com/2011/05/30/450-words-freestone

"And then there was Rockstar/Makita Suzuki's Ryan Dungey. With the win in hand at the rutted-up Freestone National track in Wortham, Texas, the defending Lucas Oil AMA Pro 450 Motocross Champion saw his fuel overheat and boil enough to stop his motorcycle within a lap and a half of the second-moto win. It was painful to watch on Speed as Dungey kicked and kicked at the bike, then pushed it home—his frustrated mechanic Mike Gosselaar hesitant to help push because he wasn't sure if that would mean a compete DQ for outside assistance. (It wasn't until the AMA confirmed that he was outside the top twenty, and thus the points, that Goose was told to go ahead and help, which he did.)"

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"Coincidentally, after Dungey's Suzuki teammate Brett Metcalfe reached the podium in the second moto after holding off a fierce attack from Valli Motorsports Yamaha rider Ricky Dietrich, his bike was sent to the impound area next to the AMA semi, but while it was being ridden from the podium to impound, it ran out of gas after going just a couple hundred feet! Was it a Suzuki problem? Was it a heat problem? Was it just a fuel-robbing track?"
good point, dungey i'm am sure uses waaaaay more fuel than metcalfe could imagine
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ford832 5/30/2011 5:05pm
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Faceaz wrote:
Good to see some nice guys at the top. Your Rossi comment makes me think of Vettel, appriciates the team & names everyone of his cars.
ocscottie wrote:
He named this years car "Kinky Kylie".
Thanks for that.I saw it on the restart at Monte Carlo and thought it said "Kinky Kyle"I then thought Sick Glad I misread.More and more,Dungey seems to made of the same stuff as RC.
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Motodrew295 5/30/2011 8:37pm
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There is no way that he was clinging to the hope of scoring points when he sat there and kicked on a bike that obviously wasn't going to start...and in such an urgent situation would you guys think he would be running or look a little more hurried than what he was?

And this outside assistance thing is BS too, the riders cant have help starting it. the mechanics can touch the bike, like when there is a pileup in the first turn and spotters run out to pick up the bikes.

Dungey looked pissed and who in their right mind wouldn't be? He probably told goose to go kick rocks and not touch the bike. My Dad and I watched the race and drew this conclusion. look at the body language between RD and goose. He lost the SX title to a broken chain and now possibly a moto championship to a mechanical. If you're in Dungey's position, you have to ask how did RC get so "lucky" with his perfect seasons and now Dungey has two mishaps in the same year. Of course its racing and we all know things happen, but my opinion is that RD told goose where to stick it and pushed the bike himself out of pure frustration, and to make goose feel even worse.
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karnivool 5/30/2011 8:43pm
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Faceaz wrote:
Very Cool... But really, can't Suzuki get someone else to push the damn thing. Hot, humid, after 30 minutes of racing & kicking the shit out...
Very Cool... But really, can't Suzuki get someone else to push the damn thing. Hot, humid, after 30 minutes of racing & kicking the shit out of it, they should have someone else push the bike back. I know Goose is a great mech & a bit older, but at least he could help Dungey push it up the hill instead of chatting up a course worker.
very cool? he looked really hot to me...and not in the gay way? lol
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dungey not the only one
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[img]http://www.vurbmoto.com/media/uploads/darkroom/201105-freestone-250-depth/freestone-250-in-depth-8_gallery_large.jpg[/img] dungey not the only one



dungey not the only one
Awesome to see Tickle doing that. Tickle's was in the 1st moto 5-10 minutes in. Dungey's was in the 2nd moto 30 minutes in. Not quite apples and oranges, but definitely a big difference. Great to see both of them doing that though for sure. It's something a lot of pros wouldn't do.
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Faceaz wrote:
Very Cool... But really, can't Suzuki get someone else to push the damn thing. Hot, humid, after 30 minutes of racing & kicking the shit out...
Very Cool... But really, can't Suzuki get someone else to push the damn thing. Hot, humid, after 30 minutes of racing & kicking the shit out of it, they should have someone else push the bike back. I know Goose is a great mech & a bit older, but at least he could help Dungey push it up the hill instead of chatting up a course worker.
Regis wrote:
That wasn't just a course worker, that was Jeff Canfield who I am sure was instructing the Dunge on the possibility of possibly scoring a single...
That wasn't just a course worker, that was Jeff Canfield who I am sure was instructing the Dunge on the possibility of possibly scoring a single point,

NO WAY goose or anyone would walk that close and not lay a hand on the bike to help push
"the Dunge"? Ricky never even had that gay of a nick name.
SuperGenius 5/31/2011 2:13pm
5/31/2011 2:13pm Edited Date/Time 5/31/2011 2:17pm
Faceaz wrote:
Very Cool... But really, can't Suzuki get someone else to push the damn thing. Hot, humid, after 30 minutes of racing & kicking the shit out...
Very Cool... But really, can't Suzuki get someone else to push the damn thing. Hot, humid, after 30 minutes of racing & kicking the shit out of it, they should have someone else push the bike back. I know Goose is a great mech & a bit older, but at least he could help Dungey push it up the hill instead of chatting up a course worker.
Regis wrote:
That wasn't just a course worker, that was Jeff Canfield who I am sure was instructing the Dunge on the possibility of possibly scoring a single...
That wasn't just a course worker, that was Jeff Canfield who I am sure was instructing the Dunge on the possibility of possibly scoring a single point,

NO WAY goose or anyone would walk that close and not lay a hand on the bike to help push
I agree and RD was pushing to slow, he didn't want it.
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Dungey had already completed lap 14, he was the first one to do it. Meaning everyone else who finished 14 would be behind him, running or not. I don't understand the worry of a DQ but clearly he was not trying to finish another lap and the race was over once Reed crossed the line a second time, meaning a rider who was not going to cross the line again had already been scored their final time. Guess they were being cautious.

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