But biden..........
But trump.......
Yeah but what about him.....
Oh yeah, well he did such and such.....
Our elections have become more and more about which candidate is less likely to make us projectile vomit when we go into the voting booth.
We argue like kindergarten aged children and make excuses for the candidate that fits some of our criteria because that is what the people pulling the strings want us to do.
Both parties have had presidents who had a majority of their party in the house and senate and yet nothing has been done about what has now become a $34 trillion debt.
Nothing has been done about immigration. A wall? Symbolic instead of doing what really needs to be done. Open borders certainly aren't the answer.
We get an immigration bill full of pork and foreign aid, and the can gets kicked down the road while all of them point fingers.
Now the aurguement is Trump sleeping with a porn star, and bill Clinton and jfk come up in the "what about game".
It is all pathetic.
I would like to think we deserve better, but sometimes I give up hope.
Our choices are a corrupt, senile, babbling creepy idiot
Or
A morally corrupt megla maniac who could easily have won reelection if he had just kept his mouth shut, and seems destined to prove it again by saying what he did about Russia attacking nato and his childish games about Nikki haley's husband.
One of them will be elected, not by winning voters over in a spirited debate, but by alienating fewer of their own voters....
Bleeeeeeck,............
Is that supposed to be “bleak”?
Isn't "bleeeeeeeeck" insinuating one vomiting?
Problem is,
Trying to talk about the disastrous present administration, and the things unraveling around us NOW, has the same handful coming in here with the tired whataboutisms concerning the last administration.
You know, the one not in power any longer.
The one not responsible for the shit show happening all around us.
But, like the MSM infusion they've become tranquilized by, that's all they have.
I remember just a few years back,
Growing energy independence, and associated price per barrel.
I remember affordable goods and services.
I remember better foriegn relations with other world leaders, and our adversaries not going full on bat shit crazy.
I remember a southern border not thrown wide open for any, and everyone, to come pouring in by the tens of thousands every week.
I remember our federal agencies unweaponized against our own citizens.
(Though we all can admit the patriot act accelerated that exponentially)
I mean if we're going to play the whataboutism game...
You remember cheap stuff, was that before COVID or after? From what I'm reading Biden is doing well with the economy for what is going on and things are evening out a bit (not pre-covid levels at all, inflation was crazy and it's just now slowing down). Republican or Democrat president after COVID would have shitty economy no matter what. You can't just shut shit down for a few months, have a war in a large oil producing country, and expect everything to be the same levels as 5 years ago.
Also, who are referring to when you said "better foreign relations..."? And please include examples backing up those thoughts when you answer. If you are talking about who I'm thinking of, you should check out the floats in the German parade or the baby inflatable other nations had. He was tight with a bunch of dictators though.
The Shop
What the fuck are you reading, Karine Jean-Pierre's notes ?
What is the current status of our 'energy independence'?
Hint, it's at the highest level in over 70 years. Energy independence, is a function of exporting more energy than you import, and the gap is growing.
Unless you're aligned with nvhermit's philosophy, your fucked. You will be standing in line to get into the local walmart, to purchase canned soup. There will be no TP or bread. It's coming
I posted a reference to this data several days ago. Crickets. It interrupts the process of talking past one another so it's ignored.
Not picking a side, just trying to read the graph:
Looks like the change occurred around 2019 with a sharp drop into 2020, which was Covid year right? Is it possible some of the drop in imports was due to a reduction in heavy oil imports used by manufacturing during that time?
It is worth noting that the import trend seems to be increasing slightly, but the export trend seems to be increasing more.
That's part of the problem with graphs, they don't tell the whole story.
However it is food for thought, and I bet a logical and reasonable discussion could be had about it 🙂
Funny how people refuse to believe The Obama administration got us to the largest oil producer in the world and it has continued (Covid years were challenging) even through last year.
How many barrels are used in the U.S. per annum?
How many of those barrels are produced domestically?
How many of those barrels are imported?
Could we be importing less and utilizing more domestic product?
Who in the world produces the cleanest energy and should we be concerned with that fact?
Should we be buying the product from the cleanest producers?
What’s the difference in environmental impact of U.S. produced oil being used domestically versus the use of imported oil (it’s environmental impact both in transportation and often “dirtier” production)?
Now, we can have the “Net-Export” discussion all day; or, we can discuss the actual impacts & realities of Domestic v. Imported energy and it’s affect on our environment and energy dependence & our national security (strategic petroleum reserves, etc.).
Aside from all that…how about the Energy Sector Jobs that includes everything from Pipeline Construction to Workers in The Patch(es)…?
Now I mean this as a question, because I myself don't know, but was that the result of the Obama administration's policies, acts of Congress, a result of a growing global economy, something else, or a combo move of several factors?
Too funny Homer.......
You gotta feel for Smokin' Joe right now though.
Hopefully in 5 years you guys have 2 candidates worthy of voting for. I pity you and your current choices.
Who? Also I literally had to lookup who that was. Do you watch that propaganda?
I'm statin' facts but people don't like those.
The fact you had to look-up who Karine Jean-Pierre is, speaks volumes!
Remember, not all petroleum extracted in the US is “good” petroleum. Much is exported due to lower grade quality and/or lack of demand domestically. Pure petroleum independence should not be a goal, as it’s economically disadvantageous.
Now, once we pioneer fusion in a couple of hundred years…
I hear fusion is about 30 years out.
Pit Row
So the only person who actually talks to the press, and tells us daily that Sleepy Joe is in perfect mental health, is someone that you are not even aware of.
Maybe that is because the MSM over there does not cover the daily liar , while we see her as the total fucking clown that she is .
The US is on its arse, same as everywhere else, for all the same reasons,
You’re probably right. Technology advances as such an incredible rate that a breakthrough could be around the corner. A primary challenge today is the massive amount of energy required to launch and sustain a fusion reaction. The net return can’t justify the CAPEX.
I’m far from an expert on this but here is my understanding. It is a combination of a lot of things. It is important to note, we became the largest producer at the end of his administration. I’d say that puts more value on his administration being behind it than if it happened in year 1 or 2 of being elected.
Below are talking points I’ve read contributed to increased oil production:
1) Obama Admin policies and leases on new well and drill sites
2) Oil prices raising enough to “profitably” extract it from our reserves
3) Technology improvements to extract shale oil quicker and cheaper
4) Obama administration influence on slowing Russian oil production and purchase on the free market.
There is not much talk of this but the Obama administration was hard on the Russian oil economy. Russia relies on oil to fund their government and military. The Obama administration’s focus on adding more US oil production plus removing sanctions on Venezuelan and Iranian oil ultimately led to lower oil cost due to additional production. I never fully believed in the Trump/Russian collusion (at least on a grand scale) but if it had been proven (on a grand scale) I always figured it was over oil. It was obvious a Clinton administration would have continued with the same economic crushing policies on Russia that the Obama administration had implemented.
The largest thing in our solar system is a giant fusion ball. I believe we will achieve cost effective energy storage (at a house/business level) and solar (from that giant fusion ball) before we solve regenerative fusion energy.
Por qué?
I used to think that too , but I’m not so sure now . It’s getting difficult to bet against Deepmind et al . Their motivation is strong . I think it’s ten years away . Sorry for the thread hijack …
Fusion is always "just 30 years away". It was 30 years away when fission entered the market, it was 30 years away when chernobyl happened, it's 30 years away today, and it'll be 30 years away 30 years from now.
I just googled “uninformed voter” and it said “see HJacksPlumber”
Same as the ice caps melting.
Why would I listen to her? That's straight up propaganda and she isn't going to paint anything Biden does in poor light. I'd rather catch up what's actually going on through other avenues. I would list those legit resources but you all claim they are liberal (like BBC, Reuters, NPR, etc.. the ones that schools will only let you use in their essays). But this forum is making me want to watch Fox News to see what you guys are sippin on.
Why not give it a watch every now and then. Check out Watters World. Comes on at 8:00 Eastern. Check out Gregg Kelly on NewsMax as well. I am a conservative, but I will tune into CNN every now and then just to hear what they are saying. My biggest take a ways from the liberal news media is that all of the men are pussies, the women are unattractive, and they all lie a lot while pushing a democrat narrative. The liberal news is very biased. If you are only watching CNN and MSNBC you don’t really know what is going on. You only know what they want you to know.
It’s hard to believe you pay any attention at all if you didn’t know who she was. As you said, she is the lead propagandist for Biden.
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