Mx Sports takes Slowie Films Media pass.

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Thoughts?

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Rickyisms wrote:

Some context would be great. 

Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad light. 

He did have a girl flash him with her bra on and put it on his page. It’s not my style but I respect his right to do it. 

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Rickyisms wrote:

Some context would be great. 

Just tell OP that is terrible and you're offended otherwise he will accuse you of "glazing" DC and licking the industry's sack. 

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Was Slowie Films the victim of unwarranted discrimination, or was the videographer doing lines off a hooker's ass in clear view of the TV cameras on live TV? There are layers here. 

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Rickyisms wrote:

Some context would be great. 

joshd wrote:
Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad...

Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad light. 

He did have a girl flash him with her bra on and put it on his page. It’s not my style but I respect his right to do it. 

The classic “Actions detrimental to the sport” schtick. 

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Seems right up there with what's going on in England these days....  

Only "approved" propaganda.

 

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Rickyisms wrote:

Some context would be great. 

joshd wrote:
Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad...

Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad light. 

He did have a girl flash him with her bra on and put it on his page. It’s not my style but I respect his right to do it. 

Kinda funny that the same industry was throwing themselves all over J-Law at LL a few weeks ago when half the reason he’s famous is for partaking in stuff like that. 

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Rickyisms wrote:

Some context would be great. 

joshd wrote:
Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad...

Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad light. 

He did have a girl flash him with her bra on and put it on his page. It’s not my style but I respect his right to do it. 

Rickyisms wrote:
Kinda funny that the same industry was throwing themselves all over J-Law at LL a few weeks ago when half the reason he’s famous is for...

Kinda funny that the same industry was throwing themselves all over J-Law at LL a few weeks ago when half the reason he’s famous is for partaking in stuff like that. 

I think it was more that JLaw was outspoken, not sugar coating anything along with unreal levels of talent. I was a fan or his riding, but not his other crap off the track. I was stoked to see him back riding and racing especially at Lorettas because I want to see him clean and doing well. Just like I wanted to see with Stroupe and Nico. I just hope JLaw doesn't go back down that same road again.

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Seems like a nothingburger to me.  I'd never heard of this guy until this thread.

What does he actually do?  

Quick scan of his Instagram looks like he's maybe a wanna-be version of Team Fried?

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Rickyisms wrote:

Some context would be great. 

joshd wrote:
Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad...

Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad light. 

He did have a girl flash him with her bra on and put it on his page. It’s not my style but I respect his right to do it. 

Where’s this video?

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Magoofan wrote:

Seems right up there with what's going on in England these days....  

Only "approved" propaganda.

 

Yeah, "right up there", ya big idiot.

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Falcon wrote:
Was Slowie Films the victim of unwarranted discrimination, or was the videographer doing lines off a hooker's ass in clear view of the TV cameras on...

Was Slowie Films the victim of unwarranted discrimination, or was the videographer doing lines off a hooker's ass in clear view of the TV cameras on live TV? There are layers here. 

I’m sorry I thought this was America

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Rickyisms wrote:

Some context would be great. 

joshd wrote:
Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad...

Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad light. 

He did have a girl flash him with her bra on and put it on his page. It’s not my style but I respect his right to do it. 

aeffertz wrote:
Where’s this video?

Where’s this video?

Haven’t had the chance to watch it yet, but I think this is it. 

https://youtu.be/uEEGai2IwV0?si=HCmMJm3pvseZc5Xu

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Falcon wrote:
Was Slowie Films the victim of unwarranted discrimination, or was the videographer doing lines off a hooker's ass in clear view of the TV cameras on...

Was Slowie Films the victim of unwarranted discrimination, or was the videographer doing lines off a hooker's ass in clear view of the TV cameras on live TV? There are layers here. 

I'd not even mad, I'm impressed. 

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8/15/2024 9:32am Edited Date/Time 8/15/2024 10:14am

Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.

He asked for one mid-way through LL, and they did deny it. Simply put, insurance issues are becoming huge for the races and a filmer focusing on people riding through flaming hoops, crashing pit bikes drunk, etc is an issue for the promoters and series as they battle these issues from a legal standpoint. Welcome to modern-day America folks.

If people don't understand how this is a liability that can effect our ability to hold racing events, I'm sorry, but it's a serious problem.

I've seen a higher amount than usual of filmers and photographers complaining the past couple years of not getting approved for media credentials at events. It's quite simple, work with an accredited media outlet. Just because you can have a big IG following doesn't mean you're media in the eyes of those who hand out the access.

One last add-on I'll edit in here...and this is no offense to Slowie as I do get entertainment from his content. If you build a following that is primarily from crash videos, crazy partying, and overall chaos. Then you will struggle to be taken seriously at a certain level and that's fine. If that's the route you choose, then you live with the consequences of it. There are positives and negatives to all decisions. If you want to be taken seriously from a professional level, then sometimes you have to adjust accordingly. There's nothing wrong with the chaos path, look at the living Buttery Films (Conner) has made. It works, but you also don't see him trying to get press passes and serious filming rolls. He owns his brand/image and it works.

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1000016347.jpg?VersionId=blBo0YvU4ytzETbyZ YLtU.Knowing this man I trust this mans judgment whole heartedly. An there are alot more people that dont trust mxs as far as they can throw him in this industry, tracks included both in the nationals and local tracks.  Im not getting into the whole glen helen bullshit again. First and foremost davey has never once treated me in any way shape or form badly. On a personal level I have no issues id go have dinner with him and bullshit mx all night long just would never do business with him. Professionally and in bussines him and his sister are snakes. Im not saying they dont help people or even help riders but thos  little things wouldnt be needed if there wasnt a massive amount of bullshit and greed. 

Ive said it beforw and ill say it again Davey jr and his ccorporate greed sister are not Davey Sr.

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8/15/2024 10:00am Edited Date/Time 8/15/2024 10:02am
ML512 wrote:
Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.He asked for one mid-way through LL...

Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.

He asked for one mid-way through LL, and they did deny it. Simply put, insurance issues are becoming huge for the races and a filmer focusing on people riding through flaming hoops, crashing pit bikes drunk, etc is an issue for the promoters and series as they battle these issues from a legal standpoint. Welcome to modern-day America folks.

If people don't understand how this is a liability that can effect our ability to hold racing events, I'm sorry, but it's a serious problem.

I've seen a higher amount than usual of filmers and photographers complaining the past couple years of not getting approved for media credentials at events. It's quite simple, work with an accredited media outlet. Just because you can have a big IG following doesn't mean you're media in the eyes of those who hand out the access.

One last add-on I'll edit in here...and this is no offense to Slowie as I do get entertainment from his content. If you build a following that is primarily from crash videos, crazy partying, and overall chaos. Then you will struggle to be taken seriously at a certain level and that's fine. If that's the route you choose, then you live with the consequences of it. There are positives and negatives to all decisions. If you want to be taken seriously from a professional level, then sometimes you have to adjust accordingly. There's nothing wrong with the chaos path, look at the living Buttery Films (Conner) has made. It works, but you also don't see him trying to get press passes and serious filming rolls. He owns his brand/image and it works.

Didn't see this before my post.

That makes plenty of sense to me. I can't and wouldn't argue that, if that's the case. Working in and around insurance. I can understand that issue. Shits getting wild in the insurance world.

Unfortunately were not a big enough sport that can get away with that stuff at this time.  

When im wrong im wrong. An in this particular instance it looks like im wrong. 

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Knowing this man I trust this mans judgment whole heartedly. An there are alot more people that dont trust mxs as far as they can throw...

1000016347.jpg?VersionId=blBo0YvU4ytzETbyZ YLtU.Knowing this man I trust this mans judgment whole heartedly. An there are alot more people that dont trust mxs as far as they can throw him in this industry, tracks included both in the nationals and local tracks.  Im not getting into the whole glen helen bullshit again. First and foremost davey has never once treated me in any way shape or form badly. On a personal level I have no issues id go have dinner with him and bullshit mx all night long just would never do business with him. Professionally and in bussines him and his sister are snakes. Im not saying they dont help people or even help riders but thos  little things wouldnt be needed if there wasnt a massive amount of bullshit and greed. 

Ive said it beforw and ill say it again Davey jr and his ccorporate greed sister are not Davey Sr.

If I remember right, Robb's ex-wife is Tim Cotter's daughter

*Correction, he was married to Tim Cotter's cousin.

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Knowing this man I trust this mans judgment whole heartedly. An there are alot more people that dont trust mxs as far as they can throw...

1000016347.jpg?VersionId=blBo0YvU4ytzETbyZ YLtU.Knowing this man I trust this mans judgment whole heartedly. An there are alot more people that dont trust mxs as far as they can throw him in this industry, tracks included both in the nationals and local tracks.  Im not getting into the whole glen helen bullshit again. First and foremost davey has never once treated me in any way shape or form badly. On a personal level I have no issues id go have dinner with him and bullshit mx all night long just would never do business with him. Professionally and in bussines him and his sister are snakes. Im not saying they dont help people or even help riders but thos  little things wouldnt be needed if there wasnt a massive amount of bullshit and greed. 

Ive said it beforw and ill say it again Davey jr and his ccorporate greed sister are not Davey Sr.

ML512 wrote:

If I remember right, Robb's ex-wife is Tim Cotter's daughter

*Correction, he was married to Tim Cotter's cousin.

I've heard him say that quite a few times, the most recently was on the Gypsy Tales interview where he actually gave Cotter some compliments. 

I think we need to go easy on the conflicts of interest in the moto industry talk, it is chock full of them. 

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Slowie is a local to me, as the comment from the pic above "a Switchbacker" as we all ride that track near us (Switchback.) He is a bit goofy but he's a great dude. I believe his vids, outside of the local stuff, got big because he caught Deegan's crash on film, on 1 of his first couple Nationals. Was that 2 years ago now, I think? And from there he had a few other clips that got a lot of views. I can't speak to what creds he did or didn't have. But I remember that Deegan vid blew up and also that one at the High Point downhill jump (a couple weeks before the Pro National) got a lot of attention. It's not my place to say who is right or wrong, as I can somewhat see both sides. I haven't seen some of the partying clips and whatnot. If they tried to blame the kid attempting the jump at HP as the reason for the insurance hike, that seems far-fetched. That's what was claimed in his video. Also, how would insurance companies even know any of that? Are they searching for High Point jump attempts or partying videos before deciding what to charge for rates? I would think it would be based on incidents where there are claims and whatnot, as hard numbers, rather than combing the socials for videos that a random guy is posting. I could be wrong. Either way, just my thoughts but Slowie is a good guy and he means well. 

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8/15/2024 10:26am Edited Date/Time 8/15/2024 11:22am
ML512 wrote:
Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.He asked for one mid-way through LL...

Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.

He asked for one mid-way through LL, and they did deny it. Simply put, insurance issues are becoming huge for the races and a filmer focusing on people riding through flaming hoops, crashing pit bikes drunk, etc is an issue for the promoters and series as they battle these issues from a legal standpoint. Welcome to modern-day America folks.

If people don't understand how this is a liability that can effect our ability to hold racing events, I'm sorry, but it's a serious problem.

I've seen a higher amount than usual of filmers and photographers complaining the past couple years of not getting approved for media credentials at events. It's quite simple, work with an accredited media outlet. Just because you can have a big IG following doesn't mean you're media in the eyes of those who hand out the access.

One last add-on I'll edit in here...and this is no offense to Slowie as I do get entertainment from his content. If you build a following that is primarily from crash videos, crazy partying, and overall chaos. Then you will struggle to be taken seriously at a certain level and that's fine. If that's the route you choose, then you live with the consequences of it. There are positives and negatives to all decisions. If you want to be taken seriously from a professional level, then sometimes you have to adjust accordingly. There's nothing wrong with the chaos path, look at the living Buttery Films (Conner) has made. It works, but you also don't see him trying to get press passes and serious filming rolls. He owns his brand/image and it works.

Im not trying to stick up for slowie but he was denied a media pass before lorettas. He might of asked for one again midway through but he asked for one weeks before and was denied. As far as the insurance i totaly understand but shouldnt mx sports be partolling looking over their events if thats such an issue? Also the accredited media thing cant be serious. I know of 2 pretty well known accredited medias (edited 3) i wont mention that got denied and do nothing but report on the races not make vlog videos. Meanwhile this and lasy year theres been media that got passes that were not heard of before with zero following under 100 subscribers followers. Call me crazy but mx sports and DC do everything they can to sensor and control the narraitve in racing. 

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I can't watch his videos.  

He looks too much like a muppet and it messes with my brain. 

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Eh, i wouldn't give a him a credential either. But....

He is just showing what goes on at night in the camping area. Sounds like that is the real problem. DC and friends do not want it exposed because of higher insurance premiums. Well...then spend more money on security to clamp down  on it ooorrrrrr....dont allow camping and/or alcohol.

Here's the High Point video that this slowie guy(I've never heard of him before today, not my style) references that Davey and his sister do not like.

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ML512 wrote:
Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.He asked for one mid-way through LL...

Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.

He asked for one mid-way through LL, and they did deny it. Simply put, insurance issues are becoming huge for the races and a filmer focusing on people riding through flaming hoops, crashing pit bikes drunk, etc is an issue for the promoters and series as they battle these issues from a legal standpoint. Welcome to modern-day America folks.

If people don't understand how this is a liability that can effect our ability to hold racing events, I'm sorry, but it's a serious problem.

I've seen a higher amount than usual of filmers and photographers complaining the past couple years of not getting approved for media credentials at events. It's quite simple, work with an accredited media outlet. Just because you can have a big IG following doesn't mean you're media in the eyes of those who hand out the access.

One last add-on I'll edit in here...and this is no offense to Slowie as I do get entertainment from his content. If you build a following that is primarily from crash videos, crazy partying, and overall chaos. Then you will struggle to be taken seriously at a certain level and that's fine. If that's the route you choose, then you live with the consequences of it. There are positives and negatives to all decisions. If you want to be taken seriously from a professional level, then sometimes you have to adjust accordingly. There's nothing wrong with the chaos path, look at the living Buttery Films (Conner) has made. It works, but you also don't see him trying to get press passes and serious filming rolls. He owns his brand/image and it works.

I guess the free spirit, party like a rock star, full send shenanigan days of Moto XXX, Crusty, Terrafirma, Metal Mulisha are all in the rear view mirror. Sad to see yet another example of corporate America pussyfying America. Thanks for the memories you hard core bastards out there!!!

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Eh, i wouldn't give a him a credential either. But....He is just showing what goes on at night in the camping area. Sounds like that is...

Eh, i wouldn't give a him a credential either. But....

He is just showing what goes on at night in the camping area. Sounds like that is the real problem. DC and friends do not want it exposed because of higher insurance premiums. Well...then spend more money on security to clamp down  on it ooorrrrrr....dont allow camping and/or alcohol.

Here's the High Point video that this slowie guy(I've never heard of him before today, not my style) references that Davey and his sister do not like.

I would deny that guy a press pass too.  That's some amateur hour bullshit.  

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This is funny because I remember when Racer X magazine  AKA Davie Coombs could never get press credentials for the Daytona SX races because RacerX was not considered to be a legitimate publication at the time. 😎  

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8/15/2024 11:04am Edited Date/Time 8/15/2024 1:41pm

Partying at a Motocross race = OK

 

Filming partying at a Motocross race and posting it online = Not OK

 

BTW I am not defending either side here. These are not my personal beliefs. Just my observations of what is considered acceptable. 

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Eh, i wouldn't give a him a credential either. But....He is just showing what goes on at night in the camping area. Sounds like that is...

Eh, i wouldn't give a him a credential either. But....

He is just showing what goes on at night in the camping area. Sounds like that is the real problem. DC and friends do not want it exposed because of higher insurance premiums. Well...then spend more money on security to clamp down  on it ooorrrrrr....dont allow camping and/or alcohol.

Here's the High Point video that this slowie guy(I've never heard of him before today, not my style) references that Davey and his sister do not like.

Well...then spend more money on security to clamp down  on it ooorrrrrr....dont allow camping and/or alcohol.


Great idea! Let’s add more restrictions and take away things from all the fans at the race so Tom, Dick and Harry with a camera can get special pass with extra access to a few other areas…

 No thanks. 
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Eh, i wouldn't give a him a credential either. But....He is just showing what goes on at night in the camping area. Sounds like that is...

Eh, i wouldn't give a him a credential either. But....

He is just showing what goes on at night in the camping area. Sounds like that is the real problem. DC and friends do not want it exposed because of higher insurance premiums. Well...then spend more money on security to clamp down  on it ooorrrrrr....dont allow camping and/or alcohol.

Here's the High Point video that this slowie guy(I've never heard of him before today, not my style) references that Davey and his sister do not like.

aeffertz wrote:
[quote]Well...then spend more money on security to clamp down  on it ooorrrrrr....dont allow camping and/or alcohol.[/quote]Great idea! Let’s add more restrictions and take away things from...

Well...then spend more money on security to clamp down  on it ooorrrrrr....dont allow camping and/or alcohol.


Great idea! Let’s add more restrictions and take away things from all the fans at the race so Tom, Dick and Harry with a camera can get special pass with extra access to a few other areas…

 No thanks. 

I wasn't advocating for this guy to get a press pass or for more restrictions in the camp area.

It just seems like Mxsports is trying to control the narrative so to speak by asking this guy to pull his videos. Mxsports does not like people showing videos of what goes on at the races. 

Or is the whole "Insurance rates are going up" argument based off this Slowie guy showing this jump at the 8 minute mark?

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