Iran

SilentAssassin wrote:

Stop fucking with them and they won’t want to do any harm. It’s pretty simple. The US has been fucking them up for 70 years. No wonder...

Stop fucking with them and they won’t want to do any harm. 
It’s pretty simple. The US has been fucking them up for 70 years. No wonder they are pissed. 

Redsbengalswildcats wrote:

You just don’t understand their ideology. No clue. Glad you aren’t in charge. We’d all be cooked. 

disbanded wrote:

How in the fuck do yall have time to just sit here and peck on your keyboards and argue all god damn day?

disbanded wrote:

How in the fuck do yall have time to just sit here and peck on your keyboards and argue all god damn day?

onefiveight wrote:

If given the opportunity…like war? So we should give them the opportunity. Sound logic. And why is it they want that? Oh, it’s because of all...

If given the opportunity…like war? So we should give them the opportunity. Sound logic. And why is it they want that? Oh, it’s because of all the wars we have started with impunity in the region. You’re right, it’s actually really easy to understand, I’ll pray for you.

disbanded wrote:

How in the fuck do yall have time to just sit here and peck on your keyboards and argue all god damn day?

phillipmccavity wrote:

I pretty much retired in my mid 40’s. 

TeamGreen wrote:

So, the people in our military are dumb and desperate? Oh, ok.  Now we know how you really feel. 

Which, btw, truly sucks 
 

onefiveight wrote:

Yes that is how I really feel and it does suck because it’s true. I wish it wasn’t. I wish I was blind. I wish Afghanistan...

Yes that is how I really feel and it does suck because it’s true. I wish it wasn’t. I wish I was blind. I wish Afghanistan was just a topic on a moto board but unfortunately there was a time when I was dumb and that led me to a cool little club called The United States Marine Corps and Helmand Province, Afghanistan. 

LoudLove wrote:

Other than the deployment, what was the reason(s) for your distaste of military service?

Joey Bridges wrote:

Damn, pretty much disposable awesomeness. Leading to ZERO American casualties. 

Damn, pretty much disposable awesomeness. Leading to ZERO American casualties. 

onefiveight wrote:

Yes that is how I really feel and it does suck because it’s true. I wish it wasn’t. I wish I was blind. I wish Afghanistan...

Yes that is how I really feel and it does suck because it’s true. I wish it wasn’t. I wish I was blind. I wish Afghanistan was just a topic on a moto board but unfortunately there was a time when I was dumb and that led me to a cool little club called The United States Marine Corps and Helmand Province, Afghanistan. 

LoudLove wrote:

Other than the deployment, what was the reason(s) for your distaste of military service?

onefiveight wrote:

I have no distaste for service or the people in it, quite the contrary, they are still some of my best friends and absolutely incredible people...

I have no distaste for service or the people in it, quite the contrary, they are still some of my best friends and absolutely incredible people. My distaste is the way they used. And their inability to see the big picture because you do get brainwashed, it’s not a secret. And no one wants to admit that their most cherished moments, achievements, and best wishes have actually ran counter to the stated cause. America is less safe today despite all our sacrifices and it’s a damn shame, criminal actually. I have nothing but love for my country, which isn’t the government, it’s you brother, we are it. And I’m sorry if I’ve come off like a twat to some people, I’m passionate. I’ll try to do better.

LoudLove wrote:

Other than the deployment, what was the reason(s) for your distaste of military service?

onefiveight wrote:

I have no distaste for service or the people in it, quite the contrary, they are still some of my best friends and absolutely incredible people...

I have no distaste for service or the people in it, quite the contrary, they are still some of my best friends and absolutely incredible people. My distaste is the way they used. And their inability to see the big picture because you do get brainwashed, it’s not a secret. And no one wants to admit that their most cherished moments, achievements, and best wishes have actually ran counter to the stated cause. America is less safe today despite all our sacrifices and it’s a damn shame, criminal actually. I have nothing but love for my country, which isn’t the government, it’s you brother, we are it. And I’m sorry if I’ve come off like a twat to some people, I’m passionate. I’ll try to do better.

Chance1216 wrote:

My cousin came back from Afghanistan pretty messed up. 11B. He lost his best friend right next to him in a fire fight. From drinking 24/7 to, waking...

My cousin came back from Afghanistan pretty messed up. 
11B. He lost his best friend right next to him in a fire fight. 
From drinking 24/7 to, waking up screaming in the middle of the night from nightmares 15 years later.  It’s taken a huge toll on him. 

You’re not a twat for having strong feelings about your experiences. I have strong feelings for what happened to my cousin over there. 

onefiveight wrote:

I have no distaste for service or the people in it, quite the contrary, they are still some of my best friends and absolutely incredible people...

I have no distaste for service or the people in it, quite the contrary, they are still some of my best friends and absolutely incredible people. My distaste is the way they used. And their inability to see the big picture because you do get brainwashed, it’s not a secret. And no one wants to admit that their most cherished moments, achievements, and best wishes have actually ran counter to the stated cause. America is less safe today despite all our sacrifices and it’s a damn shame, criminal actually. I have nothing but love for my country, which isn’t the government, it’s you brother, we are it. And I’m sorry if I’ve come off like a twat to some people, I’m passionate. I’ll try to do better.

Chance1216 wrote:

My cousin came back from Afghanistan pretty messed up. 11B. He lost his best friend right next to him in a fire fight. From drinking 24/7 to, waking...

My cousin came back from Afghanistan pretty messed up. 
11B. He lost his best friend right next to him in a fire fight. 
From drinking 24/7 to, waking up screaming in the middle of the night from nightmares 15 years later.  It’s taken a huge toll on him. 

You’re not a twat for having strong feelings about your experiences. I have strong feelings for what happened to my cousin over there. 

onefiveight wrote:

Yeah man it turns out war is intrinsically bad for people, killing people is bad for you. I nearly drank myself to death, haven’t had a...

Yeah man it turns out war is intrinsically bad for people, killing people is bad for you. I nearly drank myself to death, haven’t had a drop since 2013. I’ve beat the shit out of my wife in my sleep. Had a gun to my head multiple times. Psychedelics saved my life. I hope your cousin gets the help he deserves.

disbanded wrote:

How in the fuck do yall have time to just sit here and peck on your keyboards and argue all god damn day?

phillipmccavity wrote:

I pretty much retired in my mid 40’s. 

TeamGreen wrote:

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff says Iran claimed it had enough enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs"Both the Iranian negotiators said to us, directly, with...

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff says Iran claimed it had enough enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs

"Both the Iranian negotiators said to us, directly, with, you know, no shame, that they controlled 460 kilograms of 60%, and they're aware that that could make 11 nuclear bombs, and that was the beginning of their negotiating stance…”

Also, after Midnight Hammer, Iran made claims along these same lines.

But, still, there are those of us that think the Iranians were dealing in good faith.

So, anyone wanna guess what ya get out of 90+ pounds of nuke-core enhanced with tritium?

And let’s combine this with their CONSTANT DECLARATIONS that they’re gonna wipe Israel (and us) off of the face of the earth…oh, btw, what’s the available payload on their larger ballistic missiles?

I don’t know if anyone was following the talks; but, from the onset…all Iran was willing to negotiate ONLY on so-called further development and they were not willing to give up the nuclear stock on hand…and for this…

They wanted ALL SANCTIONS to go away.

We wanted the end the nuke weapons programs and give up the high % nuke stock, no missiles, no more proxy bullshit and cease all terrorist support…in general.

They’d -ONLY- talk about not making anymore high % nuke material…again, while keeping what they have.

So…this is how we got here…to where we are now. 

Note: There was a time when they had 3,000+ missiles and too many launch systems to count…and a vigorous nuclear weapons development program. Israel’s 12 Day War & operation Midnight Hammer is believed to have eliminated more than 1/2 off all the missiles and launchers and Midnight Hammer put the brakes on their rapid nuke core materials development. 

As of the current info avail on Epic Fury/Roaring Lion…they’re apparently down to what appears to be a few hundred missiles and tens of launchers…if that.

As of Sunday, Air Superiority was established and more air assets are being deployed/preparing to deploy…

To remove ALL OF IT.

Also, the Mullahs…clerics…they’re being removed as needed…there was an Israeli attack on a little gathering in Qom…

“An Israeli defense source confirms that the Israeli Air Force struck a building in the Iranian city of Qom where senior clerics had gathered to elect Iran’s new supreme leader.

The Assembly of Experts has 88 members, though it is unclear how many of them were at the building at the time of the strike, according to the official.”

As for Air Superiority and some of the upcoming missions/sorties…

We’ve added some new assets to the theater and it appears we’re going “underground” again to finish removal of existing nuke assets. Oh, and, we’re not done removing the political leaders that spew “Death to…” and even the proxy groups aren’t done hearing “Boom, Boom! Out Go The Lights!”. The Israelis have removed some Hezbollah folks from Lebanon…and I’m thinking the Houthis and Hamas types are on the list, too.

phillipmccavity wrote:

#sendbaron boots on ground…send these sons in with the first deployment. 

Loam Ranger wrote:

Would Donald even notice Baron was gone?Tweedledum and Tweedledees entire reason for being is to rake in as much money for dad as possible, so their...

Would Donald even notice Baron was gone?

Tweedledum and Tweedledees entire reason for being is to rake in as much money for dad as possible, so their service to the country will be to negotiate more crypto bribes and lucrative personal deals with drone manufacturers. He doesn't appear to give two shits about Tiffany, but sending Ivanka might stir an unfamiliar, momentary twinge of emotion in the depths of that bleak, empty void some might attempt to describe as a human soul. Or maybe a limp erection?

onefiveight wrote:

So wait is it Iran first or America first? 

Redsbengalswildcats wrote:

America first by taking out people that want to kill Americans, if given the opportunity. Idk why that’s hard to understand. 

SilentAssassin wrote:

Stop fucking with them and they won’t want to do any harm. It’s pretty simple. The US has been fucking them up for 70 years. No wonder...

Stop fucking with them and they won’t want to do any harm. 
It’s pretty simple. The US has been fucking them up for 70 years. No wonder they are pissed. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

50 years ago Iran was our friend and ally, we were over there teaching them how to produce oil and gas.Then came the religious nutbags.  So...

50 years ago Iran was our friend and ally, we were over there teaching them how to produce oil and gas.

Then came the religious nutbags.  So, no, we haven't been fucking them over for 70 years.

disbanded wrote:

How in the fuck do yall have time to just sit here and peck on your keyboards and argue all god damn day?

phillipmccavity wrote:

I pretty much retired in my mid 40’s. 

TeamGreen wrote:

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff says Iran claimed it had enough enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs"Both the Iranian negotiators said to us, directly, with...

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff says Iran claimed it had enough enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs

"Both the Iranian negotiators said to us, directly, with, you know, no shame, that they controlled 460 kilograms of 60%, and they're aware that that could make 11 nuclear bombs, and that was the beginning of their negotiating stance…”

Also, after Midnight Hammer, Iran made claims along these same lines.

But, still, there are those of us that think the Iranians were dealing in good faith.

So, anyone wanna guess what ya get out of 90+ pounds of nuke-core enhanced with tritium?

And let’s combine this with their CONSTANT DECLARATIONS that they’re gonna wipe Israel (and us) off of the face of the earth…oh, btw, what’s the available payload on their larger ballistic missiles?

I don’t know if anyone was following the talks; but, from the onset…all Iran was willing to negotiate ONLY on so-called further development and they were not willing to give up the nuclear stock on hand…and for this…

They wanted ALL SANCTIONS to go away.

We wanted the end the nuke weapons programs and give up the high % nuke stock, no missiles, no more proxy bullshit and cease all terrorist support…in general.

They’d -ONLY- talk about not making anymore high % nuke material…again, while keeping what they have.

So…this is how we got here…to where we are now. 

Note: There was a time when they had 3,000+ missiles and too many launch systems to count…and a vigorous nuclear weapons development program. Israel’s 12 Day War & operation Midnight Hammer is believed to have eliminated more than 1/2 off all the missiles and launchers and Midnight Hammer put the brakes on their rapid nuke core materials development. 

As of the current info avail on Epic Fury/Roaring Lion…they’re apparently down to what appears to be a few hundred missiles and tens of launchers…if that.

As of Sunday, Air Superiority was established and more air assets are being deployed/preparing to deploy…

To remove ALL OF IT.

Also, the Mullahs…clerics…they’re being removed as needed…there was an Israeli attack on a little gathering in Qom…

“An Israeli defense source confirms that the Israeli Air Force struck a building in the Iranian city of Qom where senior clerics had gathered to elect Iran’s new supreme leader.

The Assembly of Experts has 88 members, though it is unclear how many of them were at the building at the time of the strike, according to the official.”

As for Air Superiority and some of the upcoming missions/sorties…

We’ve added some new assets to the theater and it appears we’re going “underground” again to finish removal of existing nuke assets. Oh, and, we’re not done removing the political leaders that spew “Death to…” and even the proxy groups aren’t done hearing “Boom, Boom! Out Go The Lights!”. The Israelis have removed some Hezbollah folks from Lebanon…and I’m thinking the Houthis and Hamas types are on the list, too.

phillipmccavity wrote:

I pretty much retired in my mid 40’s. 

TeamGreen wrote:

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff says Iran claimed it had enough enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs"Both the Iranian negotiators said to us, directly, with...

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff says Iran claimed it had enough enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs

"Both the Iranian negotiators said to us, directly, with, you know, no shame, that they controlled 460 kilograms of 60%, and they're aware that that could make 11 nuclear bombs, and that was the beginning of their negotiating stance…”

Also, after Midnight Hammer, Iran made claims along these same lines.

But, still, there are those of us that think the Iranians were dealing in good faith.

So, anyone wanna guess what ya get out of 90+ pounds of nuke-core enhanced with tritium?

And let’s combine this with their CONSTANT DECLARATIONS that they’re gonna wipe Israel (and us) off of the face of the earth…oh, btw, what’s the available payload on their larger ballistic missiles?

I don’t know if anyone was following the talks; but, from the onset…all Iran was willing to negotiate ONLY on so-called further development and they were not willing to give up the nuclear stock on hand…and for this…

They wanted ALL SANCTIONS to go away.

We wanted the end the nuke weapons programs and give up the high % nuke stock, no missiles, no more proxy bullshit and cease all terrorist support…in general.

They’d -ONLY- talk about not making anymore high % nuke material…again, while keeping what they have.

So…this is how we got here…to where we are now. 

Note: There was a time when they had 3,000+ missiles and too many launch systems to count…and a vigorous nuclear weapons development program. Israel’s 12 Day War & operation Midnight Hammer is believed to have eliminated more than 1/2 off all the missiles and launchers and Midnight Hammer put the brakes on their rapid nuke core materials development. 

As of the current info avail on Epic Fury/Roaring Lion…they’re apparently down to what appears to be a few hundred missiles and tens of launchers…if that.

As of Sunday, Air Superiority was established and more air assets are being deployed/preparing to deploy…

To remove ALL OF IT.

Also, the Mullahs…clerics…they’re being removed as needed…there was an Israeli attack on a little gathering in Qom…

“An Israeli defense source confirms that the Israeli Air Force struck a building in the Iranian city of Qom where senior clerics had gathered to elect Iran’s new supreme leader.

The Assembly of Experts has 88 members, though it is unclear how many of them were at the building at the time of the strike, according to the official.”

As for Air Superiority and some of the upcoming missions/sorties…

We’ve added some new assets to the theater and it appears we’re going “underground” again to finish removal of existing nuke assets. Oh, and, we’re not done removing the political leaders that spew “Death to…” and even the proxy groups aren’t done hearing “Boom, Boom! Out Go The Lights!”. The Israelis have removed some Hezbollah folks from Lebanon…and I’m thinking the Houthis and Hamas types are on the list, too.

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

And along with those 460kgs of 60% enriched, they have nearly another 10,000kgs of 10% or better enriched. (where'd they get all of that?)  All this...

And along with those 460kgs of 60% enriched, they have nearly another 10,000kgs of 10% or better enriched. (where'd they get all of that?)  All this is much more than medical grade or power generation levels.

Oh, and the first thing the Iranian foreign minister told Witkoff was, "Enrichment is our God given right." So, they weren't going to stop.

TeamGreen wrote:

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff says Iran claimed it had enough enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs"Both the Iranian negotiators said to us, directly, with...

Trump envoy Steve Witkoff says Iran claimed it had enough enriched uranium to make 11 nuclear bombs

"Both the Iranian negotiators said to us, directly, with, you know, no shame, that they controlled 460 kilograms of 60%, and they're aware that that could make 11 nuclear bombs, and that was the beginning of their negotiating stance…”

Also, after Midnight Hammer, Iran made claims along these same lines.

But, still, there are those of us that think the Iranians were dealing in good faith.

So, anyone wanna guess what ya get out of 90+ pounds of nuke-core enhanced with tritium?

And let’s combine this with their CONSTANT DECLARATIONS that they’re gonna wipe Israel (and us) off of the face of the earth…oh, btw, what’s the available payload on their larger ballistic missiles?

I don’t know if anyone was following the talks; but, from the onset…all Iran was willing to negotiate ONLY on so-called further development and they were not willing to give up the nuclear stock on hand…and for this…

They wanted ALL SANCTIONS to go away.

We wanted the end the nuke weapons programs and give up the high % nuke stock, no missiles, no more proxy bullshit and cease all terrorist support…in general.

They’d -ONLY- talk about not making anymore high % nuke material…again, while keeping what they have.

So…this is how we got here…to where we are now. 

Note: There was a time when they had 3,000+ missiles and too many launch systems to count…and a vigorous nuclear weapons development program. Israel’s 12 Day War & operation Midnight Hammer is believed to have eliminated more than 1/2 off all the missiles and launchers and Midnight Hammer put the brakes on their rapid nuke core materials development. 

As of the current info avail on Epic Fury/Roaring Lion…they’re apparently down to what appears to be a few hundred missiles and tens of launchers…if that.

As of Sunday, Air Superiority was established and more air assets are being deployed/preparing to deploy…

To remove ALL OF IT.

Also, the Mullahs…clerics…they’re being removed as needed…there was an Israeli attack on a little gathering in Qom…

“An Israeli defense source confirms that the Israeli Air Force struck a building in the Iranian city of Qom where senior clerics had gathered to elect Iran’s new supreme leader.

The Assembly of Experts has 88 members, though it is unclear how many of them were at the building at the time of the strike, according to the official.”

As for Air Superiority and some of the upcoming missions/sorties…

We’ve added some new assets to the theater and it appears we’re going “underground” again to finish removal of existing nuke assets. Oh, and, we’re not done removing the political leaders that spew “Death to…” and even the proxy groups aren’t done hearing “Boom, Boom! Out Go The Lights!”. The Israelis have removed some Hezbollah folks from Lebanon…and I’m thinking the Houthis and Hamas types are on the list, too.

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

And along with those 460kgs of 60% enriched, they have nearly another 10,000kgs of 10% or better enriched. (where'd they get all of that?)  All this...

And along with those 460kgs of 60% enriched, they have nearly another 10,000kgs of 10% or better enriched. (where'd they get all of that?)  All this is much more than medical grade or power generation levels.

Oh, and the first thing the Iranian foreign minister told Witkoff was, "Enrichment is our God given right." So, they weren't going to stop.

LoudLove wrote:

Bigs thumbs up to taking out hard assets. The demolition of leadership is questionable. Yes, they have been problematic, but they also owned decision-making. Regime change...

Bigs thumbs up to taking out hard assets. The demolition of leadership is questionable. Yes, they have been problematic, but they also owned decision-making. Regime change requires a plan, and that plan includes a Day 2 strategy, which has yet to be vocalized. 

To repeat:  breaking shit and killing people is easy. Now comes the hard part. 

R66 wrote:

When the dust in Iran settles, will the world be safer?

R66 wrote:

When the dust in Iran settles, will the world be safer?

JAFO92 wrote:

Anytime you take power away from barbaric 7th century religious kooks bent on killing every single kafir on Earth,  is a good thing.

R66 wrote:

When the dust in Iran settles, will the world be safer?

JAFO92 wrote:

Anytime you take power away from barbaric 7th century religious kooks bent on killing every single kafir on Earth,  is a good thing.

soggy wrote:

these sorts of actions never result in radicalization and you end up with someone worse. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

And along with those 460kgs of 60% enriched, they have nearly another 10,000kgs of 10% or better enriched. (where'd they get all of that?)  All this...

And along with those 460kgs of 60% enriched, they have nearly another 10,000kgs of 10% or better enriched. (where'd they get all of that?)  All this is much more than medical grade or power generation levels.

Oh, and the first thing the Iranian foreign minister told Witkoff was, "Enrichment is our God given right." So, they weren't going to stop.

LoudLove wrote:

Bigs thumbs up to taking out hard assets. The demolition of leadership is questionable. Yes, they have been problematic, but they also owned decision-making. Regime change...

Bigs thumbs up to taking out hard assets. The demolition of leadership is questionable. Yes, they have been problematic, but they also owned decision-making. Regime change requires a plan, and that plan includes a Day 2 strategy, which has yet to be vocalized. 

To repeat:  breaking shit and killing people is easy. Now comes the hard part. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Don't disagree, I was just trying to explain to those here that think that Iran had no intention of ramping up their nuke program.

JAFO92 wrote:

Anytime you take power away from barbaric 7th century religious kooks bent on killing every single kafir on Earth,  is a good thing.

soggy wrote:

these sorts of actions never result in radicalization and you end up with someone worse. 

LoudLove wrote:

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. 

LoudLove wrote:

Bigs thumbs up to taking out hard assets. The demolition of leadership is questionable. Yes, they have been problematic, but they also owned decision-making. Regime change...

Bigs thumbs up to taking out hard assets. The demolition of leadership is questionable. Yes, they have been problematic, but they also owned decision-making. Regime change requires a plan, and that plan includes a Day 2 strategy, which has yet to be vocalized. 

To repeat:  breaking shit and killing people is easy. Now comes the hard part. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Don't disagree, I was just trying to explain to those here that think that Iran had no intention of ramping up their nuke program.

onefiveight wrote:

Just out of curiosity, have you guys ever noticed how we have never had a direct conflict with another nuclear armed power? Do you think that...

Just out of curiosity, have you guys ever noticed how we have never had a direct conflict with another nuclear armed power? Do you think that is a coincidence?

soggy wrote:

these sorts of actions never result in radicalization and you end up with someone worse. 

LoudLove wrote:

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. 

TeamGreen wrote:

They had a meeting to do that….”Meet the New Boss” thing…and it was ended abruptly. That leans towards a plan for Day 2.