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i wanna spend some money on my suspension i have stock suspension only set up for my weight. i wanna send my suspension to pro circuit but i just wanna know what i should have done to it i would like to spend like 1500 but would that be enough to notice a difference. never done this before and just trying to gain knowledge.
My advice is to call some big name shops and talk to them about what they could do for in your budget. Race tech, factory connection, rg3 are all very good and I'm sure you wouldn't notice a big if not any difference from PC.
Or find a good local tuner that goes to the tracks you ride and can watch you ride, they can make changes from what they see. All the shops will give you base settings but you can improve it by messing around with it at the track. Ask other people at the track who they use and ask how they like them. Sometimes local is better, who wants to ship there suspension out every time.
I'm sure some OH. Guys on here can give you some good local shops to pick from
What bike do you have and what type of riding? What class?
I know before I spend some serious money on my bike or anything for that matter. I do a lot of research, talk to as many different people/ companies as I can and try to get the most bang for my buck.
I'm not a suspension expert so they may do more then this. A basic revalve may just be dissembling the forks, cleaning and replacing worn parts. Re arranging the shim stack, changing oil levels. And they usually offer one of there valves for it. Race tech has the gold valve, rg3 has a smart valve, mx tech has the huck valve. Those cost extra and are not part of a basic revalve. Then you can get the coatings on lower fork tubes and other areas. I'm sure there is more to it but that should cover some of it.
Edit- just remembered you have a newer kxf so your lower tubes already have a dlc coating
Good luck on your research!
Clickers, oil levers, spring preload race/free sag all that stuff....at least if you understand how it works, it will give you a better idea of what you are getting when you call up for a service.
The Shop
A side note about Factory Connection, if they do a revavle on your suspension, you can send it in as many times as you want to change the valving for free. So if your not liking it, you can keep working on it and not killing your wallet...
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Good Luck!
If you're not the hypothetical 160 lb., intermediate rider the bike was designed for, this modification will
provide a nice boost in suspension performance - maybe the best single mod you can have done.
Before you send in your forks and shock, there is a work order sheet you download from the PC website.
Fill that out as accurately as possible. PC will use that info to revalve and respring your components. If
you want to spend all of your budget, you should have money left over for some anodized doo dads, but
I would just concentrate on the revalve and springs for now. As you progress, you can add parts to
increase reliability and provide more consistent performance.
dogger
shop has already swapped out the springs and revalved your forks and shock to work with those new springs, you
don't need to send your suspension out again. If on the other hand, your local suspension shop changed out the
springs and then set the static and dynamic sag to suite you, then you are half way there.
If the springs are already the correct rate for your weight and ability, PC will not replace them. Instead they will
finish the job and re-valve the forks and shock to work best with those springs. They will also include info on best
fork height, new sag numbers, clicker settings, etc. What you are paying for is to have your suspension specifically
tailored to you.
dogger
As far as engine work goes and how it affects the reliability of the engine. If you send your motor to have work done to it to a reputable shop who has good tooling, machinery, and knowledge of how to build motors, then you should have no problem with reliability of the engine. My 07' CR250 has a Pro-Circuit modified engine. I had them port, polish, mod power valve & clean it, match cases, and they did some cylinder work as well. The motor work is mated to a full PC exhaust and runs on the proper fuel they recommended. Everything works together in unison and I did not put anything "foreign" on the bike. I did not have one guy do the motor, put a different exhaust on it, and ran pump gas in it. No, everything works together as intended. You have to be honest with them like your suspension. If you want a motor that runs on race gas, then you will have to buy and run race gas no question. If not, then tell them you want to be able to run pump gas. People will lie to them and say they want a fire breathing race gas motor and then down the line not be able to afford race gas and think 87 octane pump gas will run well in their bike. Then they go bashing on the internet that PC sucks and they broke their motor and it blew up after 10min because they didn't follow the directions. When reliability goes out the window is usually two situations. 1.) People send their motor to a local guy that does work out of his basement with a pencil grinder. I avoid "local" guys because they don't have the tooling, experience, machinery, or reputability like the bigger brands do. And 2.) People mix and match parts so they have a frankenstein motor. Porting done by this guy, exhaust by another, and everything else motor wise mix matched. When dealing with motors, everything should work in unison as a team to produce the most power. One thing Pro-Circuit and many major engine builders do recommend is staying with OEM internals for the engines. PC told me to trash the Wiseco piston I had in my bike and put a OEM piston and rings in. They said that the OEM internals give the most life, best sealing, and best performance over aftermarket. So far I have a year on my PC built motor and it still kicks over on the first kick and purrs like a kitten.
Most of the reliability comes down to just common sense and using quality products. Use good fuel, good oil, and good reliable parts and your motor should be the least of your worries on race day.
Pit Row
I just want to mention I have Factory Connection suspension on my 2010 YZ450 and it's amazing. Very plush but absorbs big landings. I ride 35+ intermediate.
I agree about being very clear to Pro Circuit about your needs. I'm sure they will make it right.
Let us know how it turns out!
Ryan
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