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So I want to get into welding but don’t have too much experience and really know what I’m getting into here.
So a few questions for some of you guys.
What should I start out on?
Are the classes even worth my time?
Are there any things I really need other than the basics?
I’m planning on picking up a 200 dollar stick or mig unit to practice on, a welding mask, grinder, and a oxygen acetylene torch.
Any advice would be helpful
So a few questions for some of you guys.
What should I start out on?
Are the classes even worth my time?
Are there any things I really need other than the basics?
I’m planning on picking up a 200 dollar stick or mig unit to practice on, a welding mask, grinder, and a oxygen acetylene torch.
Any advice would be helpful
It's a tough trade. To get hired by most companies, especially places that pay big, you need certifications.
There's always the option of outfitting a 1 ton pickup, and just looking for work, but I've never seen a lot of guys out there going rouge with a welding truck.
I learned in high school.. Move a metal washer around with a sharpened pencil without making marks on the paper.
To do your own stuff, red Lincoln stick welder. A oxy acetylene rig. A grinder, a sander, a couple of hammers.
A small mig welder. And don't forget a pretty big generator if you are going to go mobile or do site work..
It's hard on your knees, eyes and lungs. Good luck dude.
TIG is the most fun IMO, and several units are a stick/tig combo.
MIG is just awful, loud and wayyy to easy. I just got a migraine thinking about it. But it's probably what you'll be using in an industrial setting.
Classes are probably worth it unless you got friends that wanna teach you. But if that's the case what are you asking us for?
Get a comfortable pair of gloves, and sleeves. Invest in a nice auto darkening hood. Angle grinder with some flap disks is pretty mandatory as well.
You might make a pretty bead, but have a poor weld.
I'd start with a Lincoln "cracker box", go to a scrap yard and find some clean, not rusty structural steel, (like angle iron) and start Practicing.
Start at 80 amps and see what you get. If you blow through, turn it down. If it just balls up on top with no penetration, turn it up.
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There seems to be some pretty good Miller bobcat generators/ welders in our next equipment auction so I might pick one of those up to learn stick on in a few months.
You will quickly figure out what power and speeds work.
What's the orange thing?
However, there are really good youtube tutorials out there. Miller and Lincoln also have some pdf welding handbooks on their site for each process (stick, tig, mig) also.
He wants to learn how to weld!
You cutting a newbie loose on your chassis?
If you have a local place that hires welders, stop in and ask them what you need to learn to get a job there. They may have an apprentice program.
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MIG is good in a shop environment but if you need to work outside, the wind can effect your shielding gas envelope plus your stinger will only be 10-20' long so you have to stay close to your welder and bottle. There is fluxed core wire available so that you won't need a shielding gas bottle. I don't have experience with it but I've never heard much good said about it by people who have. MIG has an advantage if your welding sheet metal and can work for aluminum if you also have a spoolgun (its difficult to get AL wire to feed properly through a long whip). There are consumables with a MIG (tip, nozzle and liner) and its best to not abuse your whip like running over it with a vehicle or pulling your welder around your shop by it (stupid shit I know).
TIG is really good for aluminum welding and is somewhat like brazing.
It takes some practice to get the hang of the small movements you use to weld properly. Stick welding requires a touch and pull back technique to initiate the weld which beginners usually struggle with. I learned to stick weld and it it seemed like I struggled for awhile to an get arc maintained but then one day my brain just put it all together and I was welding. Others have told me that was their experience too. Good luck!
Just have fun with it while you learn.
No gas, no screwing with splattered tips, just grab the proper stick, and get after it.
We had a new kid that would always ask me, or my buddy (who is a pro, I get shit done, but he's on a different level) if we would teach him to weld.
While neither of us have a problem giving tips, or showing young guys whatever we know, but if I'm in the middle of trying to get production going again, I don't have time for a tutorial. And the biggest thing is, how am I going to teach you 30 years or so of experience in a few short lessons?
We both would give him some tips here and there, but I just don't have the time to give him what he needed. So we'd find good shorts laying around with grapes hung off of them, rendering many of them useless, so we knew who was practicing .
One day I had some emergency welding to do. Some stainless sheet metal. So I fire up the TIG rig, and repair the part. Evidently he watched me tune the almost used up tungsten.
He got ahold of the rig later and tried his hand.
He put a filler rod where the tungsten goes, and it kinda went bad. Yes, this is real...
Get the Lincoln mig unless you want to weld 8" ship channel all day. If you want to save some money Harbor Freight has one but the Lincoln will will for last years with no problems. Also, once you get used to flux core it's fine.
I loaned it to my friend who does light fabricating. Fucker refuses to give it back. He loves it.
I don't know where the genius is now, but he ain't here.
Fortunately we have stainless wire, and rods that work too.
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