Serious question about Malcolm..

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If he started training with baker (won't happen) would we see him being a podium contender? Like everyone has said he has too 3 speed for 5 min.. but could Aldon make him a podium threat?
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If he started training with baker (won't happen) would we see him being a podium contender? Like everyone has said he has too 3 speed for...
If he started training with baker (won't happen) would we see him being a podium contender? Like everyone has said he has too 3 speed for 5 min.. but could Aldon make him a podium threat?
No. There is not only the physical side of going 20 minutes but there is also the mental/emotional side. That is much harder to get perfect then the cardio side of things. Some of these races are going 24-26 laps. I doubt Malcolm can go 26 laps mistake free at his top 3 speed the entire time. That's what it takes to podium.
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I don't see why not. He's massively talented. I don't think it's automatic, given the competition for podiums includes 3 Aldon guys plus tomac.
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Do you guys think he is built to big to ride a dirtbike at that level for the amount of time a moto is?
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I believe he should try to continue to train with Reed, even though he should participate regarding the track maintenance or give the opportunity to Reed to train on JS7 compound. That can somewhat help them both, Reed for the starts and to have a partner that has a good speed, and of course Mookie. If Reed could transform Mookie as much as Grant, that would be awesome.

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It's working for the 18.
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TXDirt wrote:
No. There is not only the physical side of going 20 minutes but there is also the mental/emotional side. That is much harder to get perfect...
No. There is not only the physical side of going 20 minutes but there is also the mental/emotional side. That is much harder to get perfect then the cardio side of things. Some of these races are going 24-26 laps. I doubt Malcolm can go 26 laps mistake free at his top 3 speed the entire time. That's what it takes to podium.
I agree 100% with your first (technically second) sentence but I also think that being fit and knowing that you are fit goes a long way on the mental/emotional side that you mention. I don't think that Aldon, specifically, is the key but I do think that a top level trainer would transform him. He has all of the things that you can't teach. Regardless, it would be very interesting to watch.
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I could be wrong, but I think the mental side of things is his biggest limitation right now. Obviously fitness is something.

The dude is fit..

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If Broc Tickle is a podium contender than so is Mookie. He will race himself into shape.
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No. There is not only the physical side of going 20 minutes but there is also the mental/emotional side. That is much harder to get perfect...
No. There is not only the physical side of going 20 minutes but there is also the mental/emotional side. That is much harder to get perfect then the cardio side of things. Some of these races are going 24-26 laps. I doubt Malcolm can go 26 laps mistake free at his top 3 speed the entire time. That's what it takes to podium.
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I agree 100% with your first (technically second) sentence but I also think that being fit and knowing that you are fit goes a long way...
I agree 100% with your first (technically second) sentence but I also think that being fit and knowing that you are fit goes a long way on the mental/emotional side that you mention. I don't think that Aldon, specifically, is the key but I do think that a top level trainer would transform him. He has all of the things that you can't teach. Regardless, it would be very interesting to watch.
I agree. Certainly being fit does help on the mental side. But that's not the only part of the mental game.

Malcolm has been around racing his whole life. His older brother is one of the best to ever ride a motorcycle. Surely he's learned a thing or two from watching that. And I'm sure James could help him put a program together. Don't think they need Aldon for that. Not saying that it wouldn't help. But there is a lot of knowledge in that family on winning races/championships. Surely big james and little james are trying to work with him and have a program in place. But is Malcolm following that program? Does he do it every day? He's basically had about 8-10 months to be physically ready for the start of SX and he's not ready. So I don't think that's anything Aldon can fix. Hope that makes sense.
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Malcolm is a good rider but I don't think he does this because he loves the sport. He does it because he can't do much else IMO. He has endless resources b/c of his brother and his experience. Malcolm has raw talent but I don't think he'll ever have the desire to win like James used to. This reminds me of kids who grow up to lawyers because there dad is a lawyer. They don't really like law but they do it because they have the resources and family experience to get them by and a name to piggy back off of.
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sam hain wrote:
Malcolm is a good rider but I don't think he does this because he loves the sport. He does it because he can't do much else...
Malcolm is a good rider but I don't think he does this because he loves the sport. He does it because he can't do much else IMO. He has endless resources b/c of his brother and his experience. Malcolm has raw talent but I don't think he'll ever have the desire to win like James used to. This reminds me of kids who grow up to lawyers because there dad is a lawyer. They don't really like law but they do it because they have the resources and family experience to get them by and a name to piggy back off of.
I don't think that's a fair assessment at all. Is it an easier decision to go into moto, given his ties and natural talent, perhaps. But to say he can't do much else is pretty unfair and a lame thing to say.
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akillerwombat wrote:
It's working for the 18.
hvaughn88 wrote:
Davi?
Think he meant 16.
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akillerwombat wrote:
It's working for the 18.
hvaughn88 wrote:
Davi?
16.

Trying on the phone - keys have been getting glitchy (still rocking an iPhone 4) and I don't catch it. I'd say if a program is workin this good for Osborne it would be worthwhile for anyone to check out.
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akillerwombat wrote:
It's working for the 18.
hvaughn88 wrote:
Davi?
akillerwombat wrote:
16. Trying on the phone - keys have been getting glitchy (still rocking an iPhone 4) and I don't catch it. I'd say if a program...
16.

Trying on the phone - keys have been getting glitchy (still rocking an iPhone 4) and I don't catch it. I'd say if a program is workin this good for Osborne it would be worthwhile for anyone to check out.
Yeah, I agree
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No. There is not only the physical side of going 20 minutes but there is also the mental/emotional side. That is much harder to get perfect...
No. There is not only the physical side of going 20 minutes but there is also the mental/emotional side. That is much harder to get perfect then the cardio side of things. Some of these races are going 24-26 laps. I doubt Malcolm can go 26 laps mistake free at his top 3 speed the entire time. That's what it takes to podium.
MXD wrote:
I agree 100% with your first (technically second) sentence but I also think that being fit and knowing that you are fit goes a long way...
I agree 100% with your first (technically second) sentence but I also think that being fit and knowing that you are fit goes a long way on the mental/emotional side that you mention. I don't think that Aldon, specifically, is the key but I do think that a top level trainer would transform him. He has all of the things that you can't teach. Regardless, it would be very interesting to watch.
TXDirt wrote:
I agree. Certainly being fit does help on the mental side. But that's not the only part of the mental game. Malcolm has been around racing...
I agree. Certainly being fit does help on the mental side. But that's not the only part of the mental game.

Malcolm has been around racing his whole life. His older brother is one of the best to ever ride a motorcycle. Surely he's learned a thing or two from watching that. And I'm sure James could help him put a program together. Don't think they need Aldon for that. Not saying that it wouldn't help. But there is a lot of knowledge in that family on winning races/championships. Surely big james and little james are trying to work with him and have a program in place. But is Malcolm following that program? Does he do it every day? He's basically had about 8-10 months to be physically ready for the start of SX and he's not ready. So I don't think that's anything Aldon can fix. Hope that makes sense.
His brother is one of the most naturally talented/gifted riders to ever ride a dirt bike. I don't remember much about his off the bike training other than a brief stint with Aldon that didn't last. I have the impression (maybe the wrong impression) that James got to the highest level relying mostly on his talent and not his work ethic. If my impression is correct, I don't know how much value James and his dad offer in the way of off the bike preparation. Now, if his brother was someone like Dungey, I think he'd be in a better spot. His whole life he watched it come easier to his brother than probably anybody else in the sport.
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He needs better physical and mental training help like the other top riders are getting or he will not reach his potential. He could be a regular top 4-7 every week, but.......

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Malcolm is a good rider but I don't think he does this because he loves the sport. He does it because he can't do much else...
Malcolm is a good rider but I don't think he does this because he loves the sport. He does it because he can't do much else IMO. He has endless resources b/c of his brother and his experience. Malcolm has raw talent but I don't think he'll ever have the desire to win like James used to. This reminds me of kids who grow up to lawyers because there dad is a lawyer. They don't really like law but they do it because they have the resources and family experience to get them by and a name to piggy back off of.
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I don't think that's a fair assessment at all. Is it an easier decision to go into moto, given his ties and natural talent, perhaps. But...
I don't think that's a fair assessment at all. Is it an easier decision to go into moto, given his ties and natural talent, perhaps. But to say he can't do much else is pretty unfair and a lame thing to say.
I didn't mean he's to stupid to do anything else, but if your dad was Joe Montana would you play tennis? Probably not.
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I think he will be fine. Things will come together. Let's not jump the gun to quick on him and let's not bash him like everyone seems to do to James.
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Malcolm is a bad dude. He has a bigger frame than most MX guys, but he looks strong as hell. I think he is capable of running the full length at top 3 speed with some more time. Hatters are gonna Hat Bro!
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It's hard to argue that but when it comes to talent, his brother has it in spades. Arguably more than anyone else in the history of the sport. Maybe all of that talent made up for some of his lack of work ethic? Again, I don't know what he did off the bike. Maybe I'm way off base but when I think of the hardest working guys in the sport, he doesn't come to mind.
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hvaughn88 wrote:
Davi?
akillerwombat wrote:
16. Trying on the phone - keys have been getting glitchy (still rocking an iPhone 4) and I don't catch it. I'd say if a program...
16.

Trying on the phone - keys have been getting glitchy (still rocking an iPhone 4) and I don't catch it. I'd say if a program is workin this good for Osborne it would be worthwhile for anyone to check out.
hvaughn88 wrote:
Yeah, I agree
Here is how this plays out:

Ryan Dungey will retire late in the nationals.
KTM will sign Malcolm as everyone else will be signed.
Malcolm, being in Florida already, will sign on with Aldon.

2018 RedBull KTM's Malcolm Stewart will win the 2018 SX season...stamp it.

...ps I'm not serious.

I could see them shifting Jason Anderson to RedBull KTM and maybe put Malcolm on with Rockstar Husky. Even that is a stretch.
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TXDirt wrote:
No. There is not only the physical side of going 20 minutes but there is also the mental/emotional side. That is much harder to get perfect...
No. There is not only the physical side of going 20 minutes but there is also the mental/emotional side. That is much harder to get perfect then the cardio side of things. Some of these races are going 24-26 laps. I doubt Malcolm can go 26 laps mistake free at his top 3 speed the entire time. That's what it takes to podium.
MXD wrote:
I agree 100% with your first (technically second) sentence but I also think that being fit and knowing that you are fit goes a long way...
I agree 100% with your first (technically second) sentence but I also think that being fit and knowing that you are fit goes a long way on the mental/emotional side that you mention. I don't think that Aldon, specifically, is the key but I do think that a top level trainer would transform him. He has all of the things that you can't teach. Regardless, it would be very interesting to watch.
TXDirt wrote:
I agree. Certainly being fit does help on the mental side. But that's not the only part of the mental game. Malcolm has been around racing...
I agree. Certainly being fit does help on the mental side. But that's not the only part of the mental game.

Malcolm has been around racing his whole life. His older brother is one of the best to ever ride a motorcycle. Surely he's learned a thing or two from watching that. And I'm sure James could help him put a program together. Don't think they need Aldon for that. Not saying that it wouldn't help. But there is a lot of knowledge in that family on winning races/championships. Surely big james and little james are trying to work with him and have a program in place. But is Malcolm following that program? Does he do it every day? He's basically had about 8-10 months to be physically ready for the start of SX and he's not ready. So I don't think that's anything Aldon can fix. Hope that makes sense.
You can lead a horse to water...but you know the rest. Many times we've heard Malcolm say that he had to make a choice between being a professional fisherman and a professional motocross racer. You have to be "all in" to do this stuff. I think Malcolm is fit, he is talented & has the mental ability to win races...hell, he just won a damn championship!! But, how badly does he want it now? He's racing guys who are 110% all in, every week...week in and week out. They live, breath and fart motocross. How willing is Malcolm to do this? Can he do this? I don't have a clue, but it would seem that he may still have part of his brain out on the water on a Ranger boat, casting lures...
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I think he will be fine. Things will come together. Let's not jump the gun to quick on him and let's not bash him like everyone...
I think he will be fine. Things will come together. Let's not jump the gun to quick on him and let's not bash him like everyone seems to do to James.
This.. I think he will be fine also, first year on the big bikes.

He will race himself into shape, did people really think he was going to be a podium contender right away? I don't think so.
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akillerwombat wrote:
It's working for the 18.
He was a child prodigy and has been around elite resources since day one...Malcolm was chilling until about 14...it matters in the long run.

Davi has been fit his whole life
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TheOriginalPancakee wrote:
I think he will be fine. Things will come together. Let's not jump the gun to quick on him and let's not bash him like everyone...
I think he will be fine. Things will come together. Let's not jump the gun to quick on him and let's not bash him like everyone seems to do to James.
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This.. I think he will be fine also, first year on the big bikes. He will race himself into shape, did people really think he was...
This.. I think he will be fine also, first year on the big bikes.

He will race himself into shape, did people really think he was going to be a podium contender right away? I don't think so.
Read some older posts, some had him.as a top 3-5, he is a 8-12 place rider. Nothing wrong with that. Webb, Kroc out add two more spots.
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akillerwombat wrote:
16. Trying on the phone - keys have been getting glitchy (still rocking an iPhone 4) and I don't catch it. I'd say if a program...
16.

Trying on the phone - keys have been getting glitchy (still rocking an iPhone 4) and I don't catch it. I'd say if a program is workin this good for Osborne it would be worthwhile for anyone to check out.
hvaughn88 wrote:
Yeah, I agree
tprice07 wrote:
Here is how this plays out: Ryan Dungey will retire late in the nationals. KTM will sign Malcolm as everyone else will be signed. Malcolm, being...
Here is how this plays out:

Ryan Dungey will retire late in the nationals.
KTM will sign Malcolm as everyone else will be signed.
Malcolm, being in Florida already, will sign on with Aldon.

2018 RedBull KTM's Malcolm Stewart will win the 2018 SX season...stamp it.

...ps I'm not serious.

I could see them shifting Jason Anderson to RedBull KTM and maybe put Malcolm on with Rockstar Husky. Even that is a stretch.
I like your thinking, except I'll take it a few time zones further. Mookie goes out and does some fishing with Eli out in Colorado becoming Kawie's 3rd (or 2nd) rider. Jeff Stanton style . When he hired with Honda, changed his program, and slept in RJ's doghouse. Get the heck out of Florida Malcolm.
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akillerwombat wrote:
16. Trying on the phone - keys have been getting glitchy (still rocking an iPhone 4) and I don't catch it. I'd say if a program...
16.

Trying on the phone - keys have been getting glitchy (still rocking an iPhone 4) and I don't catch it. I'd say if a program is workin this good for Osborne it would be worthwhile for anyone to check out.
hvaughn88 wrote:
Yeah, I agree
tprice07 wrote:
Here is how this plays out: Ryan Dungey will retire late in the nationals. KTM will sign Malcolm as everyone else will be signed. Malcolm, being...
Here is how this plays out:

Ryan Dungey will retire late in the nationals.
KTM will sign Malcolm as everyone else will be signed.
Malcolm, being in Florida already, will sign on with Aldon.

2018 RedBull KTM's Malcolm Stewart will win the 2018 SX season...stamp it.

...ps I'm not serious.

I could see them shifting Jason Anderson to RedBull KTM and maybe put Malcolm on with Rockstar Husky. Even that is a stretch.
I can't see DeCoster (if he stays with KTM past Dungey's retirement) wanting Anderson on the team. He's not the kind of rider that Roger tends to like much...his riding style, I mean.

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