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Edited Date/Time 4/16/2012 2:42pm
Hay Renner do me a favor..........WIN
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GuyB 4/14/2012 4:57pm
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Seriously? Even I think Ricky would laugh at that.
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valvesr4wimps 4/14/2012 5:12pm
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Unlikely. VERY. But what a david/goliath story that would make on so many levels!
Actually, that has already happened. Ricky is in the Nite show on a old, cheap bike with a half size motor.
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roughneck 4/14/2012 5:43pm
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I know it won't happen..but I can wish..

Go Renner!!
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roughneck wrote:
I know it won't happen..but I can wish..

Go Renner!!
im with ya

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BAMX 4/14/2012 5:46pm
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GuyB wrote:
Seriously? Even I think Ricky would laugh at that.
Making the main would be a heroic effort.
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KAWboy14 4/14/2012 5:48pm
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GuyB wrote:
Seriously? Even I think Ricky would laugh at that.
hey renner......win SOMETHING?
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DL 4/14/2012 6:01pm
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almost 8 seconds off Roczen.
dirtworldmx 4/14/2012 6:03pm
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He needs to find about 4-5 seconds before the LCQ. Probably not able to do all the jump.
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fader418 4/14/2012 6:17pm
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dirtworldmx wrote:
He needs to find about 4-5 seconds before the LCQ. Probably not able to do all the jump.
No problem just put the "other" cylinder on before the LCQ! Its absolutely bull that he can't run a 144!
twosmoke30 4/14/2012 6:19pm
4/14/2012 6:19pm
dirtworldmx wrote:
He needs to find about 4-5 seconds before the LCQ. Probably not able to do all the jump.
fader418 wrote:
No problem just put the "other" cylinder on before the LCQ! Its absolutely bull that he can't run a 144!
this just proves that they need to change the rules to make it more equal
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newmann 4/14/2012 6:30pm
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125's always had an issue with the big stuff. It was obvious when the 250F's came out that the 125's days were numbered with the displacement rules as they are. Not even in the same class. The 250F is more evenly matched to a 250 2 stroke than it is a 125 anyday. Good to see Renner putting it out there though.
queen of spodes 4/14/2012 6:37pm
4/14/2012 6:37pm
Think the AMA will still check out his bike? LoLoL.
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valvesr4wimps 4/14/2012 8:32pm
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The results from here and from Daytona leave no valid argument to keep the rules as they are. Upping the lites class to 150 2T is CLEARLY the right thing to do.
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GuyB 4/14/2012 8:39pm
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queen of spodes wrote:
Think the AMA will still check out his bike? LoLoL.
They said they believe he's on a 125. Ricky wants them to tear it down anyway.

It was a good effort on a bike that cost maybe $2200.

One idea I heard floated today was that everyone rides 250s in the future, including the premier class, and the there are varying levels of mods allowed to separate the men from the boys.
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151 4/14/2012 8:46pm
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I have always thought the classes should be seperated by power to weight ratio only. Everything else is wide open for whatever. Money wouldn't be much of a factor. Because power can always be created with increased displacement. Development by the teams with money would be awesome though. And, all the bikes would be close to equal. We really would see who the best racers are.
rustytrombone 4/14/2012 8:50pm
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GuyB wrote:
They said they believe he's on a 125. Ricky wants them to tear it down anyway. It was a good effort on a bike that cost...
They said they believe he's on a 125. Ricky wants them to tear it down anyway.

It was a good effort on a bike that cost maybe $2200.

One idea I heard floated today was that everyone rides 250s in the future, including the premier class, and the there are varying levels of mods allowed to separate the men from the boys.
I hope to god they never do that.
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500guy 4/14/2012 8:51pm
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This is how I thought he would do at Daytona, I think track conditions and Renners skills were the difference at Daytona over 20 cc

On a hard slick track where everyone is more evenly matched the 2 stroke is just a huge disadvantage.

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aggiemoto99 4/14/2012 8:59pm
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GuyB wrote:
They said they believe he's on a 125. Ricky wants them to tear it down anyway. It was a good effort on a bike that cost...
They said they believe he's on a 125. Ricky wants them to tear it down anyway.

It was a good effort on a bike that cost maybe $2200.

One idea I heard floated today was that everyone rides 250s in the future, including the premier class, and the there are varying levels of mods allowed to separate the men from the boys.
Claim rule the "lites" class, say at 20 thousand...
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Nighttrain 4/14/2012 9:00pm
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Is there any logical reason why the displacement rule of 125/250/500 shouldn't be restored? It seem an easy fix to a polarizing issue.
twosmoke30 4/14/2012 9:11pm
4/14/2012 9:11pm
Nighttrain wrote:
Is there any logical reason why the displacement rule of 125/250/500 shouldn't be restored? It seem an easy fix to a polarizing issue.
the only "logical" reason, would be so the OEM's could make $ on the 4 strokes
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Nighttrain 4/14/2012 9:20pm
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Nighttrain wrote:
Is there any logical reason why the displacement rule of 125/250/500 shouldn't be restored? It seem an easy fix to a polarizing issue.
twosmoke30 wrote:
the only "logical" reason, would be so the OEM's could make $ on the 4 strokes
Yea, 2smoke30, that's what I always figured. The Big 4's financial pressure on the AMA and FIM and all that. But there is such a huge grassroots' movement to erradicate the rule that it's absurd that it remains. Not even the "4-Stroke Mafia" gives a rat's arse about the displacement rule anymore.
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ocscottie 4/14/2012 9:23pm
4/14/2012 9:23pm
And the final decision.. It was a Legal 125!

twosmoke30 4/14/2012 9:24pm
4/14/2012 9:24pm
Nighttrain wrote:
Is there any logical reason why the displacement rule of 125/250/500 shouldn't be restored? It seem an easy fix to a polarizing issue.
twosmoke30 wrote:
the only "logical" reason, would be so the OEM's could make $ on the 4 strokes
Nighttrain wrote:
Yea, 2smoke30, that's what I always figured. The Big 4's financial pressure on the AMA and FIM and all that. But there is such a huge...
Yea, 2smoke30, that's what I always figured. The Big 4's financial pressure on the AMA and FIM and all that. But there is such a huge grassroots' movement to erradicate the rule that it's absurd that it remains. Not even the "4-Stroke Mafia" gives a rat's arse about the displacement rule anymore.
it would be awesome to bring back the 125 class
have the 250 class be a real 250 class regardless of strokes
and same with the 500 class, maybe sleeve down a 500 2 stroke and keep the displacement at 450 for the 4 strokes

it would be so exciting to watch the 2 types do battle on a equal playing field, but if they are equal, the 250f would basically go away i think the factory teams would want every advantage possible, same with the 450f's i think most teams would opt for a 450 2 stroke
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newmann 4/14/2012 9:27pm
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queen of spodes wrote:
Think the AMA will still check out his bike? LoLoL.
GuyB wrote:
They said they believe he's on a 125. Ricky wants them to tear it down anyway. It was a good effort on a bike that cost...
They said they believe he's on a 125. Ricky wants them to tear it down anyway.

It was a good effort on a bike that cost maybe $2200.

One idea I heard floated today was that everyone rides 250s in the future, including the premier class, and the there are varying levels of mods allowed to separate the men from the boys.
And what was the reasoning behind this idea? Too many injuries in the 450 class and no racers left halfway through the season?
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wildbill 4/14/2012 9:53pm
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GuyB wrote:
They said they believe he's on a 125. Ricky wants them to tear it down anyway. It was a good effort on a bike that cost...
They said they believe he's on a 125. Ricky wants them to tear it down anyway.

It was a good effort on a bike that cost maybe $2200.

One idea I heard floated today was that everyone rides 250s in the future, including the premier class, and the there are varying levels of mods allowed to separate the men from the boys.
of either stroke, or maybe two's just in the big boys class?
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Whorehay 4/14/2012 10:08pm
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Whatever the result It was refreshing that Renner gave us all something to cheer for and be excited about. Cheers To him!!!!

and on the debate of classes... 125/250/500 its not going to matter if the Sanctioning body doesn't step up to the plate and police the bikes for mods. The bikes need to be cheaper and more equal from the leader to the back of the class regardless of how many times the piston moves up and down.

a third class would definatelly allow for the mix in of new blood. A heavily policed spec class would be great for young entry level pros.
I vote Stock 125s...
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Whorehay 4/14/2012 10:10pm
4/14/2012 10:10pm
I actually joined Vital because of all the fuss about Renner running at Daytona....
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Derpin' DJ 4/14/2012 10:14pm
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GuyB wrote:
They said they believe he's on a 125. Ricky wants them to tear it down anyway. It was a good effort on a bike that cost...
They said they believe he's on a 125. Ricky wants them to tear it down anyway.

It was a good effort on a bike that cost maybe $2200.

One idea I heard floated today was that everyone rides 250s in the future, including the premier class, and the there are varying levels of mods allowed to separate the men from the boys.
I like that idea for SX. 450's are fine outdoors though.
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wildbill 4/14/2012 10:17pm
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Whorehay wrote:
Whatever the result It was refreshing that Renner gave us all something to cheer for and be excited about. Cheers To him!!!! and on the debate...
Whatever the result It was refreshing that Renner gave us all something to cheer for and be excited about. Cheers To him!!!!

and on the debate of classes... 125/250/500 its not going to matter if the Sanctioning body doesn't step up to the plate and police the bikes for mods. The bikes need to be cheaper and more equal from the leader to the back of the class regardless of how many times the piston moves up and down.

a third class would definatelly allow for the mix in of new blood. A heavily policed spec class would be great for young entry level pros.
I vote Stock 125s...
kinda like this one.

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