Motocross Manifesto - RupX style

ayearinmx
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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 11:10am
RupertX isn't happy about the Nationals, so we went to his garage and filmed him airing his views on how motocross is moving away from it's roots...

definitely worth checking out on http://insider.vurbmoto.com/ which is still free, so make the most of it... you're either gonna love it or hate it...
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6/26/2009 10:47am
Great stuff from the Pulpit of Pellett!
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6/26/2009 10:59am
Anyone else having it cut out right at like 5:35? Mine just stops right in the middle of rups rant!
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6/26/2009 11:00am
thanks. Something wrong with the video. It cuts off at 5:41.
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Me too, 5:41, sonsabitches!

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6/26/2009 11:06am
Its a teaser...tune in next time! Ha.

NOtice the Episode 1 thing...is the rupertx show making a come back? Isn't this really episode 2?
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6/26/2009 11:08am
Yes there are more episodes coming, however, it's not supposed to shut off at the 5:41 mark.

The vurb guys are working on it!
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The Black Helicopters have already left for Ohio.

keep your head down Rup
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500guy wrote:
The Black Helicopters have already left for Ohio.

keep your head down Rup
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Damn IT guy has me locked out of just about everything I will have to check it when I get home. What is Rup ranting about now?

I recently moved to Chattanooga and met some guy from the local message board at Hooters. I happened to be wearing my Rupert X shirt. They knew right away I was serious about MOTO. Rup! the man the myth the legend!
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in a nut shell it's about how everything in moto is being made better for the Industry and everything the fans liked has or is being taken away.
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500guy wrote:
in a nut shell it's about how everything in moto is being made better for the Industry and everything the fans liked has or is being...
in a nut shell it's about how everything in moto is being made better for the Industry and everything the fans liked has or is being taken away.
that sounds about right. While we're at it let's schedule a couple more supercrosses in California. I say we need an outdoor National in the South East. There are a ton of riders living in FL and Georgia now, but we have to travel to see them ride outdoors!
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6/26/2009 12:47pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:36am
Wow. I wanted to watch it and it's already been taken down.

I never expected to get blackballed / black listed that &*^% QUICK !

First they took the 40 minute moto's. then the works bikes, then the 500's, then the race-gas, then the two-strokes, then the Saturday qualifier RACES for the local pro's - then the Sunday morning RACES - then the SUNDAYS.

Great news though folks - we got LOTS more womens races !!! Yaaaaaay !!!!

We'll sit on our hands and our asses until we get THIS upcoming " press - release":

" To better fit into TV programming, we will be featuring one twenty minute moto (timed)- this will be taped on a Tuesday afternoon. We'll tell you the winner, of course. We'll add some more womens moto's - maybe some quads, too !"

I can see the writing on the wall, can you ?
Yet we, the fans, will just let it happen. Won't we ?
Hell, we let all the other shtuff go.....
Past time for a FAN's MOTOCROSS REVOLUTION.
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Well, you can scroll down and watch "Women's motocross, the rise fall and rise again" if you would like.

Well done, Rup...the first 5:41 I seen anyway!
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You have women mx issues to deal with. Get over it already. Don't go down that Teefus route, you're far better than that.

All the other stuff... is a pipe dream. It is what it is, none of the sat. stuff went down without severe bitching before it happened. The money talked (OEM's) and you (we) get what you get.

I seriously doubt we'll see a one moto format. It seems things are going well with the TV deal right now.

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You have women mx issues to deal with. Get over it already. Don't go down that Teefus route, you're far better than that. All the other...
You have women mx issues to deal with. Get over it already. Don't go down that Teefus route, you're far better than that.

All the other stuff... is a pipe dream. It is what it is, none of the sat. stuff went down without severe bitching before it happened. The money talked (OEM's) and you (we) get what you get.

I seriously doubt we'll see a one moto format. It seems things are going well with the TV deal right now.

how can you say that things are going well with the tv deal when we have been getting only one moto online and one moto on tv ? can you name any other pro sports where you only watch half the event ?
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6/26/2009 1:13pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:36am
back online, think we had some hackers or something... but we've resisted the cease & desist letters and now the WHOLE show should be viewable
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The TV deal is going well for MX Sports.

But..

1st live mx ever on Nat. TV

Same day coverage

Steps in the right direction. Will it get better in the future? Hopefully so.

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jbomx363 wrote:
You have women mx issues to deal with. Get over it already. Don't go down that Teefus route, you're far better than that. All the other...
You have women mx issues to deal with. Get over it already. Don't go down that Teefus route, you're far better than that.

All the other stuff... is a pipe dream. It is what it is, none of the sat. stuff went down without severe bitching before it happened. The money talked (OEM's) and you (we) get what you get.

I seriously doubt we'll see a one moto format. It seems things are going well with the TV deal right now.

Tell Danica Patrick she needs a "Womens Only Class".

Quote from Episode 2. Look out!
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This is MX, more physically demanding than any other sport.

Do you see chick women NBA players? No. Women in MLB? Women in mens soccer, women in Mens tennis? Why? Can't compete physically.



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jbomx363 wrote:
You have women mx issues to deal with. Get over it already. Don't go down that Teefus route, you're far better than that. All the other...
You have women mx issues to deal with. Get over it already. Don't go down that Teefus route, you're far better than that.

All the other stuff... is a pipe dream. It is what it is, none of the sat. stuff went down without severe bitching before it happened. The money talked (OEM's) and you (we) get what you get.

I seriously doubt we'll see a one moto format. It seems things are going well with the TV deal right now.


No women issues other than I'd like to see Ashley or JP$ or Whitmore or some other

young lady/ woman qualify into an AMA Pro National. Think how COOL that would be.

I also would LIKE to see permanent women's bathrooms at every AMA National.

Have you been to many ? It's no fun directing your family member/ spouse or gf to

a tall blue plastic hall of poo.

And, I'd feel the same way if they decided to run the vets Open bike race with the main

program, SUNDAY should be four motos of the world's best - NOTHING MORE.

Currently women make up - what - maybe 2 % of the total motocross population ?-

Does this warrant a showcase of 20 pro women riders on National day ?

I think not.

It's not a sexism issue at all.

Read Phil Alderton's letter in Cycle News, he explain sit better than me.
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jbomx363 wrote:
This is MX, more physically demanding than any other sport. Do you see chick women NBA players? No. Women in MLB? Women in mens soccer, women...
This is MX, more physically demanding than any other sport.

Do you see chick women NBA players? No. Women in MLB? Women in mens soccer, women in Mens tennis? Why? Can't compete physically.




And, do you see them stop an NBA game or a mens soccer game or a NASCAR race

and insert a women's program?

Of course not. There would be rioting.
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allot of crying, but i agree with some of it. except 'they took 2 strokes away' that's bullshit. anyone of the riders could ride a 2 strokes if they want to. but they all know 2 strokes are not a worthy machine anymore. why do you think noone buys them anymore

oh and 50 laps from that old guy? lol i doubt it
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6/27/2009 8:05am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2009 8:06am
Rated: "Worth a look" Cool

...sure reminds me of somebody else...can't think who, at the moment.
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* Apologies to Christophe Pourcel and Ryan Dungey, I included their names in my rant mistakenly - I'm a

HUGE FAN of both of those guys and somehow their names spilled out of my mouth before my brain caught up.

Speaking about riders needing to "harden up" - those two don't and are tougher than I'll ever be. Sorry,

especially to Mrs. Dungey, she's always been SO cool to me. It was a big slip-up. And I didn't mean to pick

on Mitch Payton, either - it just always seems like in any explanation of why we have these Saturday races,

it's because "Mitch Payton needs to get back to work and Kevin Windham needs to be with his family".

Allegedly, THEY want a shorter weekend. Seriously, WHO - in their right mind - wants a shorter weekend?

Just Gonser - he works at a bike shop on weekends...

Mount Morris was fun and will always be fun - could it be better? Hell yeah, and I'm not b***ing solely

about recent changes and developments, the erosion of the "spice and fury" of motocross started many years

back, when WE (me included) permitted changes to be made, behind closed doors - that have negatively

affected our sport. Think about the things that have been taken away, that also removed a large throng of

fans, with every piece taken: 40 plus moto's, works bikes, cool-smelling fuels, two-smokes and better

racing, Saturday afternoon qualifiers (RACES!!), Sunday morning qualifiers (RACES!!!) amd LONG WEEKENDS

of motocross NIRVANA. It's time for us to return many of these staples that made motocross the colorful,

wonderful sport that it used to be. And the fans shall return. In droves.

And, of course, MOUNT MORRIS should be on Memorial Day. Sunday.

And, we should have a RACER-X party on Friday night, like olden days...sniff,sniff...

** I'll be releasing the official text plan of my MOTOCROSS MANIFESTO soon, with recommendations and

solutions, for significant improvements -not just me b**ching.


*** As far as removing the womens racing from the main program, even though most
don't watch it and don't believe it should be hanging on the coattails of the main PROgram, most are afraid to speak up, realizing that they'll be labeled "sexist' or "anti-woman" . If people cannot logically oppose your message through civil dialogue and realize you're correct, they'll most likely attack your credibility or resort to name -calling.
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Rupert X wrote:
No women issues other than I'd like to see Ashley or JP$ or Whitmore or some other young lady/ woman qualify into an AMA Pro National...

No women issues other than I'd like to see Ashley or JP$ or Whitmore or some other

young lady/ woman qualify into an AMA Pro National. Think how COOL that would be.

I also would LIKE to see permanent women's bathrooms at every AMA National.

Have you been to many ? It's no fun directing your family member/ spouse or gf to

a tall blue plastic hall of poo.

And, I'd feel the same way if they decided to run the vets Open bike race with the main

program, SUNDAY should be four motos of the world's best - NOTHING MORE.

Currently women make up - what - maybe 2 % of the total motocross population ?-

Does this warrant a showcase of 20 pro women riders on National day ?

I think not.

It's not a sexism issue at all.

Read Phil Alderton's letter in Cycle News, he explain sit better than me.
Rup you're singing my kind of tune on EVERY point particularly about women's bathrooms. I think we'd get more women interested in attending Nationals by just having decent facilities for them independent of WMA.

Phil just left my house but I didn't see this post until right now. I will see if I can get him to e mail me the letter he and Eierstedt sent to CN.

BTW, if the Nationals ever go to one moto this will be when I stop going the outdoor races......
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Rupert X wrote: Read Phil Alderton's letter in Cycle News, he explains it better than me.

The title that accompanied this was "Outraged in Oceanside"

My roommate and I just returned from the opening round of the 2009 Outdoor National MX series at Glen Helen. And while the racing in the 250/450 classes was great, we felt compelled to express our views regarding the WMA part of the program.

We've both been MX enthusiasts since the sport was introduced here in the U.S. in the late 1960's. I've raced amateur MX on and off since 1971 and even had my own race team from 1992 through 2004. My roommate started racing in the early seventies as well and had a professional MX license for ten years. We've been into it for a long time. You might even consider us "super fans".

Anyway, we knew that in conjunction with the 250/450 classes, a Women's race and a two-stroke challenge were going to be included as well. We both feel that the Women's race took away from the 250/450 classes immensely. With the WMA race running first, combined with the long practices, parade laps and podium interviews , the 250/450 classes seemed as though they took a back seat to the Women's program. I mean, at 5:00 pm, the Women had completed their program and the second 250/450 moto's hadn't even started!

Please don't take this as a slam towards the WMA. We both feel that there's a place for Women in MX, just not HIGHLIGHTED during a 250/450 Outdoor National. All told, I think we lost about two hours of the best part of the day watching the women ride around the track and listening to them talk. Plus, it's hard to have a lot of respect for a group of racer's that don't even have enough respect for themselves to even fill up the gate. I'm pretty sure that only 27 riders even bothered to enter!

I don't think we're alone either. There's a time and place for everything. And the time and place for Women's MX isn't in conjunction with a 250/450 professional motocross!

Thank you,

Phil Alderton.
Rich Eierstedt.
Oceanside, California.


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allot of crying, but i agree with some of it. except 'they took 2 strokes away' that's bullshit. anyone of the riders could ride a 2...
allot of crying, but i agree with some of it. except 'they took 2 strokes away' that's bullshit. anyone of the riders could ride a 2 strokes if they want to. but they all know 2 strokes are not a worthy machine anymore. why do you think noone buys them anymore

oh and 50 laps from that old guy? lol i doubt it
why is there always someone who says this?

It's never been proven unless you give the 4 strokes a significant cc advantage.
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6/27/2009 2:18pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:37am
Rup,

I've seen the vid and agree with you on most parts . At the GP's their are selected events with a womens class but it doesn't bother the time schedule of the MX1 and MX2 classes at all. 1st moto is in the morning and second moto is held where there's usually a 1 hour pauze between the 1st and 2nd moto so it's cool with most race fans I think.


I disagree with you on the timed qualifiers. The've been part of the GP's forever, we're used to it and know how they work. I can appreciate it alot. You get to see GP stars do a super fast, balls out, all or nothing lap trying to take that pole.

Example: I've seen de Dijcker and de Reuver blast full throttle, barely hanging on, through sand berms you normally won't see in a race. Some of the stuff these guys are trying and doing in a fast lap are just great to watch.

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