Help me decide rekluse!

Edited Date/Time 10/19/2015 1:34pm
So I'm pretty confused right now. I really fancy a rekluse, now been in the uk the only ones avilable to me are the exp 3 for £340 ($550) and the z start £540 ($800). Bike is a crf 450 and I only ride motocross, often rough sand track, but can vary. My starts are not that brilliant and I do stall mid corner which costs me a lot of time racing not having a electric start. So what I'm asking is will it help my starting, will I just be able to twist the throttle with the exp 3 and go from the line? What is the actual difference between the 2? Bear in mind this is NOT a exp core 3.0 just a exp contains plates and springs. Will it actually help me in anyway or form?
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10/12/2015 12:03pm
Short answer, yes, it will help.

One of the best aftermarket accessories you can put on your bike, period.
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10/12/2015 12:15pm
Agreed! I put the 3.0 on my 13YZ450f, single biggest improvement I have ever made!
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10/12/2015 12:19pm
I'd run the EXP3 & go to their full set-up as things start wear out (I'd run their hub & basket when the stock parts wear out).

If I had a "4 post" CRF...I'd run all the good stuff right now.
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10/12/2015 12:22pm
Do NOT get the Z-start.

Get the CORE EXP 3.0...I L-O-V-E mine. I've got their hub and basket...I won't go back to a stock clutch.

It works just like a stock clutch (no difference in lever feel or pull), but its there when I need it (to lug a corner, or keep the RPM"s low on slippery sections without stalling, etc.)

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10/12/2015 12:44pm
I have the EXP 3.0 in my CRF450R and have had in the bike for a few years now. I love it.
I did purchase the heaver weights that are a $90 option. They help the bike hook up a bit quicker. I use a combo of 3 Red springs and 3 Blue springs as well.
No stalling in the corners yet you still have the compression breaking for the corners and you can tap the rear break in the air without killing the engine. The units gives perfect traction control coming out of corners both in deep loam and hard pack.
You can use 3rd gear for starts.

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10/12/2015 12:57pm
I've had both and definitely the EXP is the way to go.

The Z-start has way more moving parts and is more difficult to set up proper.

The EXP drops in and ready to go.

On my new KTM I've actually stayed with the stock clutch and not bought a Rekluse because I did have some issues where if I didn't properly adjust the freeplay I had some slipping during a race. Not saying this will happen to everyone but just keep an eye on it and the feel of it, if something doesn't feel right, check your freeplay. But overall it is an amazing product.
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10/12/2015 12:59pm
A friend of mine put one of the old-school Rekluse clutches in his CRF250 and went from a last-place starter to a holeshot on his first moto with it. Good stuff.
10/12/2015 1:56pm
Cool, thanks for the advice will just go for the exp 3! Is it near impossible to stall with this? And if you was doing a racing start would/could you use the clutch? Sorry for all the questions just don't wana rush into £350 worth of clutch!! Like I say mainly doing it for better starts but hopefully improve performance all round
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10/12/2015 2:04pm
Go for the EXP 3, I had the earlier version on my KTM 300 sx. I used the clutch lever normally for MX starts. Great as you would never stall the bike. (almost never 1 in 100).
Every now and then when I stopped I would forget to take it out of gear, kick start the bike give it throttle and it would take off.
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10/12/2015 2:10pm
mxpassion wrote:
Cool, thanks for the advice will just go for the exp 3! Is it near impossible to stall with this? And if you was doing a...
Cool, thanks for the advice will just go for the exp 3! Is it near impossible to stall with this? And if you was doing a racing start would/could you use the clutch? Sorry for all the questions just don't wana rush into £350 worth of clutch!! Like I say mainly doing it for better starts but hopefully improve performance all round
You can still use the clutch like normal, including starts. I have had an EXP 2.0 in my 450 for 3 years now, never had a problem. Buy it, you will be happy.
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10/12/2015 2:28pm
mxpassion wrote:
Cool, thanks for the advice will just go for the exp 3! Is it near impossible to stall with this? And if you was doing a...
Cool, thanks for the advice will just go for the exp 3! Is it near impossible to stall with this? And if you was doing a racing start would/could you use the clutch? Sorry for all the questions just don't wana rush into £350 worth of clutch!! Like I say mainly doing it for better starts but hopefully improve performance all round
I think I stalled one time in 2 years with my EXP. You can use the clutch just like a normal clutch. If you adjust it right, you could let someone ride the bike and they would never know it was there.
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10/12/2015 2:39pm
mxpassion wrote:
Cool, thanks for the advice will just go for the exp 3! Is it near impossible to stall with this? And if you was doing a...
Cool, thanks for the advice will just go for the exp 3! Is it near impossible to stall with this? And if you was doing a racing start would/could you use the clutch? Sorry for all the questions just don't wana rush into £350 worth of clutch!! Like I say mainly doing it for better starts but hopefully improve performance all round
Yes, use the clutch like normal on starts and in corners and jumps...

You can stall it, but so long as the install gap is right, its very difficult to do. If the install gap isn't right (as determined by the free play gain at the lever...should be 1/4 of an inch-I'm speaking from a cable clutch perspective, I"m not sure about the KTM/Husky clutches) then it will either stall easily or slip.
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10/12/2015 2:47pm
The exp will prevent stalling, but it won't prevent flame out if you have efi issues.

The rekluse stuff is very well made and innovative, I think their manual clutch setup is better than Hinson.

The only issue running the exp alone is that you have to run less clunch fibers....the complete core unit is really, really good.
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Bruce372 wrote:
The exp will prevent stalling, but it won't prevent flame out if you have efi issues. The rekluse stuff is very well made and innovative, I...
The exp will prevent stalling, but it won't prevent flame out if you have efi issues.

The rekluse stuff is very well made and innovative, I think their manual clutch setup is better than Hinson.

The only issue running the exp alone is that you have to run less clunch fibers....the complete core unit is really, really good.
I second the complete core unit.
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10/12/2015 7:10pm
Not to hijack the thread but has anyone out there with a ktm 300 experimented with different springs on the clutch itself? Everything works as it should on my 15 xc 300 but it will not take a full power shift without letting off even if I use the clutch. That shifter will not move until I lift, and I hate lifting Smile . My clutch lever is set up correctly as far as I'm concerned.
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10/12/2015 7:12pm
I put the exp 3.0 in my 15 crf450 and love it. I put the whole kit in there. Basket and all. Really happy with it.
10/12/2015 7:18pm
Do the EXP 3.0 disk. Stay away from the z-start. It's a pain in the ass. Love my EXP 3.0 for woods racing... Sweet for moto too.
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10/12/2015 8:26pm
Rekluse magic, get some.
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I have the z-start in my 09 yz450f (set up for woods) & love it. I just bought a new 350exc & I am missing the Rekluse BAD. I am getting ready to order the 3.0. I've heard only good things about it. It's just not the same riding a bike now with a normal clutch! Defiantly not as fun in the woods & especially the right stuff. I can't wait to get the 3.0 in my 350. Best mod you can get hands down. Saves energy, makes riding easier, cornering faster & you'll be the King of hill climbs even if your not good at it!
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10/12/2015 9:15pm
AWESOME add on for any bike! Def recommend it man!
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10/13/2015 12:01am
What exactly is the difference between the various models mentioned here? I know the Core is the complete thing with basket etc. What are the others?
10/13/2015 12:41am Edited Date/Time 10/13/2015 1:16am
Sweet I'm going to order one tonight hopefully have it in by the weekend to try sounds like what I'm looking for
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10/13/2015 5:40am
Don't blip the throttle off idle in gear by accident. You will learn that real quick.
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10/13/2015 6:11am
I have a Z Start on my 2012 kx 450f and love it! period
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10/13/2015 9:21am
Robgvx wrote:
What exactly is the difference between the various models mentioned here? I know the Core is the complete thing with basket etc. What are the others?
As I understand the Z-start was the first gen...and they've evolved since then, all they way to the current EXP Core 3.0. And each new version has gotten better than the one prior. I've only owned the EXP Core 2.0 (two of them) and now the EXP Core 3.0, so I don't have any personal experience with the Z-start...other than to say that the lever feel/pull isn't the same as stock (where the 2.0 and 3.0 lever feel/pull has been the same as stock).
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I have a question about the rekluse aswell. Since i think theres no need in opening a new Rekluse Topic i just post it here, hope noone minds.

I am doing a New York trip in a few weeks with my girl. You know, the typical stuff, Victoria Secret and some other shopping, maybe a bit sight seeing aswell, if it is on the way to a VS Store Wink . I figured if since i am in America anyway, i could buy something sweet for my bike aswell. And i always dreamt of a rekluse, Especially now that im looking into Enduro-X more and more.

I would like to order a Core EXP 3, but there is no pricing on the Rekluse Page. So i wondered if someone can tell me where i can get a good price for the Core 3? I have seen heard so many different prices, but theres also so many options that i am confussed now, but i am sure someone can shot me an advice.

Regards, Kanista.
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10/14/2015 7:10am Edited Date/Time 10/14/2015 9:23am
Kanista wrote:
I have a question about the rekluse aswell. Since i think theres no need in opening a new Rekluse Topic i just post it here, hope...
I have a question about the rekluse aswell. Since i think theres no need in opening a new Rekluse Topic i just post it here, hope noone minds.

I am doing a New York trip in a few weeks with my girl. You know, the typical stuff, Victoria Secret and some other shopping, maybe a bit sight seeing aswell, if it is on the way to a VS Store Wink . I figured if since i am in America anyway, i could buy something sweet for my bike aswell. And i always dreamt of a rekluse, Especially now that im looking into Enduro-X more and more.

I would like to order a Core EXP 3, but there is no pricing on the Rekluse Page. So i wondered if someone can tell me where i can get a good price for the Core 3? I have seen heard so many different prices, but theres also so many options that i am confussed now, but i am sure someone can shot me an advice.

Regards, Kanista.
Check RockyMountainatvmc.com

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/895/46597/Rekluse-Core-EXP-Clutch-…

Or Motosport

I think they are both rekluse distributors.

edit: I did just look on the rekluse website and they have their prices listed. You just have to put in your machine details from the products page....

https://rekluse.com/product/core-exp-clutch-3-0/
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10/14/2015 9:34am
Kanista wrote:
I have a question about the rekluse aswell. Since i think theres no need in opening a new Rekluse Topic i just post it here, hope...
I have a question about the rekluse aswell. Since i think theres no need in opening a new Rekluse Topic i just post it here, hope noone minds.

I am doing a New York trip in a few weeks with my girl. You know, the typical stuff, Victoria Secret and some other shopping, maybe a bit sight seeing aswell, if it is on the way to a VS Store Wink . I figured if since i am in America anyway, i could buy something sweet for my bike aswell. And i always dreamt of a rekluse, Especially now that im looking into Enduro-X more and more.

I would like to order a Core EXP 3, but there is no pricing on the Rekluse Page. So i wondered if someone can tell me where i can get a good price for the Core 3? I have seen heard so many different prices, but theres also so many options that i am confussed now, but i am sure someone can shot me an advice.

Regards, Kanista.
Titan1 wrote:
Check RockyMountainatvmc.com https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/895/46597/Rekluse-Core-EXP-Clutch-3.0?term=rekluse Or Motosport I think they are both rekluse distributors. edit: I did just look on the rekluse website and they have their prices...
Check RockyMountainatvmc.com

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/895/46597/Rekluse-Core-EXP-Clutch-…

Or Motosport

I think they are both rekluse distributors.

edit: I did just look on the rekluse website and they have their prices listed. You just have to put in your machine details from the products page....

https://rekluse.com/product/core-exp-clutch-3-0/
Also, you can order it on-line before you head over and have it delivered to your hotel...

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Titan1 wrote:
Check RockyMountainatvmc.com https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/895/46597/Rekluse-Core-EXP-Clutch-3.0?term=rekluse Or Motosport I think they are both rekluse distributors. edit: I did just look on the rekluse website and they have their prices...
Check RockyMountainatvmc.com

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/895/46597/Rekluse-Core-EXP-Clutch-…

Or Motosport

I think they are both rekluse distributors.

edit: I did just look on the rekluse website and they have their prices listed. You just have to put in your machine details from the products page....

https://rekluse.com/product/core-exp-clutch-3-0/
thanks very much for helping me out. rockymountain atv and motosport doesnt sell for my bike so i think i should order it directly from rekluse. i spend way to much time on this page today figuring out where the price could be, but i did not find outHuh i must be getting old...
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TeamGreen wrote:
Also, you can order it on-line before you head over and have it delivered to your hotel...

good idea man. i do like that Cool

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